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    Default Initial thoughts on the Co-Star

    I finally got my Co-Star today and just finished setting it up. I previously had a Logitech Revue, but never had a good experience with it.

    - Setup was very easy from opening the box, to plugging in, and configuration.
    - PlayPoint software immediately found my Synology NAS. However, it only shows "Music", "Photos", and "Video". I have a 4th folder called "Movies", but the PlayPoint software doesn't show my "Movies" folder.
    - PlayPoint software played music just fine.
    - The Plex client does OK with photos and music.
    - The Plex client had no audio when playing some ripped HD content. When the audio did work, the sound was 3-4 seconds behind the video.
    - Netflix streaming and Amazon Prime streaming seem to work very well, much better than the old Logitech Revue.
    - Overall speed and feel of the unit is OK. Not much lag.
    - Remote seems smart at first, but then it gets annoying having to flip it back and forth. Trackpad is very sensitive, and makes it hard to select a specific button in the Chrome browser.
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    Glad you're enjoying. It rocks.
    I maybe sending from my Galaxy S3 or I may be sending from my Nexus 7 or both.
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    I'm liking it so far. I'm not happy with streaming ripped blu-ray content. Not sure if it's how I ripped it, or software problems with the unit, or both. Ripped DVD's play fine. I'm starting to wonder if I'm just wasting time/money on these types of units instead of just building a HTPC.
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    I am enjoying mine a lot. Netflix works great. I attached a 500GB WD passport to it and PlayPoint saw it just fine. I did not test out every file but it seemed to play all the video on it with no issue. No complaints for $99. I am just hoping Google integrates all TV/Movies into the play store for renting....
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    Quote Originally Posted by aptmx View Post
    I am enjoying mine a lot. Netflix works great. I attached a 500GB WD passport to it and PlayPoint saw it just fine. I did not test out every file but it seemed to play all the video on it with no issue. No complaints for $99. I am just hoping Google integrates all TV/Movies into the play store for renting....
    Ah so thats what reads the usb port. Cause i cant load files (apks) off it.

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    For $99 I really can't complain. I was hoping to replace my Logitech Revue in the main room; however, after playing with it for a few hours I kept the Revue in the main room. The co-star is now in the bedroom as a Netflix only player. Was really hoping for more.
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    So I gave the co-star a nasty mini-review in the Engadget comments when iFixIt did their thing and I said I was going to return it to Vizio, but after talking with Vizio Customer Care AND most importantly doing a factory reset on the box, I can honestly say that it's not that bad of a unit. For some reason my initial experience was horrible, with major lag time, freezes, apps not performing well, flaky remote, etc. Since I did the hard reset and re-setup the whole thing, it's been behaving at an acceptable level. Google Music also works now, and I realized that Amazon Video does get better in quality after watching about the first 2 minutes of the video. Even the remote is working consistently, with no more keys registering 3 times per button press, and it still remembers my TV and cable box setup. I don't understand why it went so bad the first time and now it seems to be fine, but regardless, I think I will be sticking around and hoping for future updates.
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    Wow these reviews have been encouraging! Maybe the initial launch bugs have started to settle down. I have never used a smart tv device, but I was planning on getting one... but do you guys recommend costar over revue? In a nutshell, here's my setup and intentions:

    watch some directtv/but i don't use DVR,
    I have an Amazon prime account and netflix
    I have some videos on my pc I'd like to stream
    I don't listen to music much
    I don't intend to play games.
    Browse facebook and espn
    I use a windows phone, and wife has ipad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ody360 View Post
    Wow these reviews have been encouraging! Maybe the initial launch bugs have started to settle down. I have never used a smart tv device, but I was planning on getting one... but do you guys recommend costar over revue? In a nutshell, here's my setup and intentions:

    watch some directtv/but i don't use DVR,
    I have an Amazon prime account and netflix
    I have some videos on my pc I'd like to stream
    I don't listen to music much
    I don't intend to play games.
    Browse facebook and espn
    I use a windows phone, and wife has ipad.

    watch some directtv/but i don't use DVR,

    I think the co star will integrate with the receiver so when you open the tv ap it will tell you what channels movies are on then take you to the channel.

    I have an Amazon prime account and netflix
    Prime is a link to the web site. Not great but there really isnt an android app for it anyway.

    I have some videos on my pc I'd like to stream
    Plex app would probably handle that

    I don't listen to music much
    Google Music is there in case you change your mind.

    I don't intend to play games.
    There isnt many games. This is really a video device.

    Browse facebook and espn
    Facebook can work with a little sideloading.

    I use a windows phone, and wife has ipad
    Get a new phone.
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    Got mine yesterday. No issues setting it up or using it. Works as expected.

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    Thanks for the answers! The last one gave me a chuckle though... sorry, I love the windows phone. Most of the info/updates i need are there on the initial screen. I went from iphone to galaxy s2 then to my htc titan (free, via wp challenge). Gotta say, it's my favorite of the 3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ody360 View Post
    Thanks for the answers! The last one gave me a chuckle though... sorry, I love the windows phone. Most of the info/updates i need are there on the initial screen. I went from iphone to galaxy s2 then to my htc titan (free, via wp challenge). Gotta say, it's my favorite of the 3.
    Well u gotta go with what u love.

    Android phones/tablets can download a Google tv app which helps out a lot with typing.

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    I got the surround sound update a few days ago, and the audio has improved a lot from the initial experience. I need to re-try streaming some HD content from my NAS to see if the sound is working better. Watching ripped blu-ray content is the biggest issue so far, and I'm hoping is fixed eventually.
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    Let me know how streaming from the NAS is since that is my biggest concern.
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    After suffering through the nightmare that is FedEx Smart Post, I finally received my Co-Star 5 days ago. I purchased this unit to replace an old Roku; since the top of the line Roku sells for $89 at Sam's Club, the $99 Co-Star seemed like a gamble worth taking.

    Here's how I have the device hooked up...NO cable TV or satellite (I use OTA only); I ran an HDMI out of the Co-Star to a Vizio VHT-215 soundbar; I then ran another HDMI cable (pass-thru setup) from the soundbar to a 46" Philips TV. I'll explain that choice in a bit. I have a Cisco router which is fed by a Panasonic powerline network adapter feeding the internet to the Co-Star (wired connection).

    The Co-Star setup took about half an hour; far longer than a Roku, but then again you have to program the remote for multiple devices, pair bluetooth, and download a sizable update. It was very straight-forward; no real issues whatsoever.

    I like the device a lot. As a Netflix streamer it's great. It has the newer UI than my Roku, and it loads videos substantially faster. I don't have Amazon Prime Video, so I can't comment on that. I installed the Al Jazeera app and that works as well as the app on the Roku. I went ahead and purchased Plex (.99 on Google Play....free on Roku) and that too worked fine. The Plex app on the Vizio is more full-featured than the one on the Roku; it will show you the Unsupported stuff (e.g. porn, etc.) Other than that, a cursory check showed Plex streaming performance on par with the Roku.

    I also hooked up a 2TB Western Digital hard drive full of movies. The Co-Star took probably 15 minutes to scan the drive, but once I did I was able to stream stuff. I only tried doing this with the Vizio program that comes pre-loaded; it's a piece of crap--very limited in capability (e.g. inability to browse by folder structure), but it is functional. I'm aware there are other (paid) alternatives in the app store. As I have a separate media streamer that supports ISOs, I seriously doubt I will make use of this aspect of the Co-Star...why Google doesn't support ISOs is a mystery to me.

    I've been extremely disappointed in the Google App store. I have lots of Android devices, and the app store for GTV is clunky and extremely difficult to find stuff that is compatible with your device. The odd thing is the app store will let you download stuff that isn't compatible(?!) There just doesn't seem to be much stuff available for GTV at this point.

    I tried side loading a number of apps with spotty success. Pulse loads, but is next to impossible to navigate. Google+ runs, but will force close--which brings me to a side point--Why the F doesn't Google make apps for Gmail, Google+, Maps, Currents, etc. for Google TV?

    I was able to get the Amazon MP3 app side-loaded properly--it runs awesome, and the Co-Star will even let you add it's widget (although a widget for Google Music is CONSPICUOUSLY absent). I also got ACV (comic reader app) loaded--now that is an awesome experience! I found a .cbr of a 1940s Shazam comic and read it on my 46" screen--what a beautiful site! Seriously--this has great potential. Unfortunately, you'll be forced to side-load an app like this since you can't get it from the app store on the device. BTW, Perfect Viewer force-closes.

    One of the neat things about the Roku is that there are a number of public and private "channels" that you can install to view streaming video. Sure, not all of them are high-quality, but there are interesting ones available. I was pretty surprised/disappointed that GoogleTV pretty much only has Netflix and Al-Jazeera. I know that you can watch stuff on Chrome, but that's clunky and not an elegant experience. On the other hand, I really do like the YouTube app on the Co-Star; I only wish there was a way for it to remember where I paused a video if I can't watch something in one sitting. If you didn't hear, Troma put up 150 movies on their YouTube site recently...not everyone's cup of tea, but it's neat to be able to watch movies on YouTube whilst sitting on my sofa.

    I haven't had any issues with the remote control. The only practical thing that Vizio could have done better is to provide lighted keys--at least on the front. But at $99 I'm sure this was a trade-off. Oh, the trackpad is a bit sensitive--it would be nice if there were an app on the device where you could adjust the sensitivity or something.

    Earlier, I mentioned I'd explain why I use an HDMI pass-thru setup with my soundbar. The reason I opted for this is because it allows me to start up some music (e.g. using Goolge Music or Amazon MP3 player) and turn the TV completely off. This works well for me; YMMV.

    I'm pretty content with the Co-Star at this point. I am disappointed in some things, but that's natural. As a Netflix streamer it's great--everything else is just gravy. I'm a die-hard Android junkie, so I'm sticking with GTV regardless. However, I'm afraid that Apple will revamp their AppleTV product and blow GoogleTV away. Google really needs to get on the app store--encourage more developers and also make the store easier to navigate. The GTV UI is okay, but it requires way too many button pushes to navigate, and there isn't a lot of visual similarity to the phone/tablet version of Android--leaving even folks like me with a steep learning curve...Apple will beat them hands-down in this area.
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    Well I posted this in its own topic but mine will work on my Samsung and not my Westinghouse (WTF) and guess which TV I need it to work on? Set up was a pain, need CS to help me reset the remote, and finally was able to set up Plex, (thank you all for that suggestion) and that was the only way to properly stream video to it from my Buffalo CloudStor NAS.

    Not sure if I will keep the device at this time unless I can get it working on the Westinghouse (VR4625).

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