Those who upgraded: How has ICS been? (Should I do it?)

**Evo Longoria** · 02-08-2013, 10:10 AM

Hey all,

When ICS was first released for the 3D, I heard a lot of complaints and reports of problems, so I didn't upgrade. I was wondering how those of you who did upgrade feel about it after 6 mos, or however long it's been. I still haven't upgraded, but am thinking about it. What do you say, yay or nay? Do I go for it or wait out my contract (4 1/2 mos) with Gingerbread and move on?

**Brian706** · 02-08-2013, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by Evo Longoria

Hey all,

When ICS was first released for the 3D, I heard a lot of complaints and reports of problems, so I didn't upgrade. I was wondering how those of you who did upgrade feel about it after 6 mos, or however long it's been. I still haven't upgraded, but am thinking about it. What do you say, yay or nay? Do I go for it or wait out my contract (4 1/2 mos) with Gingerbread and move on?

This probably won't answer your question, but i basically skipped ics altogether. I rooted on gb and i did check out ics briefly but went back to gb. Now that jellybean is available, I'm running that and haven't looked back sense. For some reason ics just didn't catch my attention.

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**xlDeMoNiClx** · 02-08-2013, 10:54 PM

It's been working pretty good for me ever since I'm updated.

**roadpizza73** · 02-08-2013, 11:59 PM

Once it finished indexing my thousands upon thousands of music and picture files, all was well.

Nibble by byte, weaning from google

**Evo Longoria** · 02-09-2013, 12:16 AM

To what, iOS? (Not having any of that.)

**Evo Longoria** · 02-09-2013, 12:24 AM

Originally Posted by Brian706

This probably won't answer your question, but i basically skipped ics altogether. I rooted on gb and i did check out ics briefly but went back to gb. Now that jellybean is available, I'm running that and haven't looked back sense. For some reason ics just didn't catch my attention.

I remember reading quite a while back that rooting actually left your phone vulnerable by leaving certain important information unencrypted and easy to pilfer. I don't remember the source now, but it was on established and reputable sites around 2010, 2011, or so. I rooted a Nook Color for a bit when Honeycomb first came out, but eventually reverted back. A bit leery of screwing with my phone, though I see that so many out there do it frequently and comfortably. 'Dunno, though... (I kind of preferred the Palm days, when I felt I had the reasonable expectation of keeping at least some of my information to myself.)

**Brian706** · 02-09-2013, 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by Evo Longoria

I remember reading quite a while back that rooting actually left your phone vulnerable by leaving certain important information unencrypted and easy to pilfer. I don't remember the source now, but it was on established and reputable sites around 2010, 2011, or so. I rooted a Nook Color for a bit when Honeycomb first came out, but eventually reverted back. A bit leery of screwing with my phone, though I see that so many out there do it frequently and comfortably. 'Dunno, though... (I kind of preferred the Palm days, when I felt I had the reasonable expectation of keeping at least some of my information to myself.)

Well, I completely respect your opinion and right to choose not to root. I think that having an expectation of privacy on any smartphone or Internet connected device is a little far fetched but that's just my opinion. I don't think rooting will make you more vulnerable. Sounds a bit like a scare tactic to me. If anything, you should be more secure/in control of your device after rooting.

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**xlDeMoNiClx** · 02-09-2013, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by Evo Longoria

To what, iOS? (Not having any of that.)

No. Just no.

This is from me, on my EVO 3D.

**pergerson6** · 02-09-2013, 01:39 PM

I think ics runs perfect on my device. Running viperS r284 with flawless performance. 1620 max 192 min, and I get anywhere from 20-24 hours of battery life.

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**rafaelluik** · 02-09-2013, 01:56 PM

Update! It runs faster and offers a new experience for some areas. It'll also let you to disable stock apps you don't use.

The sound quality was greatly enhanced and you can press songs or albums to add to the current playing queue in real-time. This was a feature I was actually looking for it's perfect.

It added HTC Notes and Tasks apps to my device, but also removed some like LinkedIn for HTC Sense (didn't use) and Quick Lookup (wasn't working anyway).

But: you'll lose the ability to control the battery saver, the background data can't be disabled completely now, the option of ringtone and notification sound volume will be tied together - those last two are stock ICS -, some toggles on quick settings in the notifications bar (like Wi-fi) (at this point I given up it and downloaded Notification toggles on Play Store which is much better anyway).

But I say it's completely worth it. I had no issues, but people who said have it, solved them with a reset to factory settings.

**Evo Longoria** · 02-11-2013, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by rafaelluik

...the background data can't be disabled completely now...

...solved them with a reset to factory settings.

The inability to turn off background data is disturbing. As I recall, that was the way to keep them, whomever they are, from storing your home network passphrase. These cellphones, while conveniently doubling as nearly indispensable tools of our daily lives, have become data-mining LoJack devices; a welcome mat that greets anyone with the juice or the knowledge to simply help themselves to everything and anything we have, know or do. I really dislike that.

Not that I ever believed that turning off the Background Data switch actually kept "them" from getting your network passphrase, but it was nice to feel you had the option.

As for the factory reset, it took me hours every time I had to reset my phone to get it back to my "standard operating level". I sure would love to avoid doing that again before I get a new phone. Sounds lose-lose.

Not long until I can kick Sprint to the curb. I hate what they did to their customer base with the whole LTE-phones-with-no-LTE-coverage continuing scam. It's amazing they're basically getting away with it, too. Tick, tick, Sprint (not that I like Verizon any better).

**rafaelluik** · 02-11-2013, 07:32 PM

I had no issues on updating, I didn't need to factory reset. I was just saying in case you have problems, there's a solution.

Access to the network passphrase? No app has access to it, I don't get it. o.O
There's a way to limit, there's a "restrict background data" setting which can only be enabled when you enable "set data usage limit". It's not that simple to me, but maybe it works that way: you need to set the data usage limit to the amount of data your contract/plan allows, and then you're able to enable the restrict background data setting and apps will only be able to use data while in the background through Wi-fi (in the end you only have control over the mobile network data use - the phone assumes your Wi-fi is an unlimited connection).
AFAIK this is the way background data usage control works on all Android 4.x+ devices, so you won't be getting anything different than this from any other manufacturer or carrier.

**xlDeMoNiClx** · 02-12-2013, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by Evo Longoria

The inability to turn off background data is disturbing. As I recall, that was the way to keep them, whomever they are, from storing your home network passphrase. These cellphones, while conveniently doubling as nearly indispensable tools of our daily lives, have become data-mining LoJack devices; a welcome mat that greets anyone with the juice or the knowledge to simply help themselves to everything and anything we have, know or do. I really dislike that.

Not that I ever believed that turning off the Background Data switch actually kept "them" from getting your network passphrase, but it was nice to feel you had the option.

As for the factory reset, it took me hours every time I had to reset my phone to get it back to my "standard operating level". I sure would love to avoid doing that again before I get a new phone. Sounds lose-lose.

Not long until I can kick Sprint to the curb. I hate what they did to their customer base with the whole LTE-phones-with-no-LTE-coverage continuing scam. It's amazing they're basically getting away with it, too. Tick, tick, Sprint (not that I like Verizon any better).

It's sad but companies can get away with too much as long as people don't do anything about it and just keep paying them.

**Evo Longoria** · 02-23-2013, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by xlDeMoNiClx

It's sad but companies can get away with too much as long as people don't do anything about it and just keep paying them.

Also @rafaelluik: True, but what's the recourse? It's built into the OS, or in this case, built out of the OS. And people knew you could disconnect from the network and tracking if you removed the battery from the phone, so they started making phones with no access to the battery. Your "tracker" is now always on. What do you do? Stop owning a phone? The companies, the government, whomever have no right to every bit of your life, yet the access is built in to the device you've come to rely on to handle the details of your everyday life. And we pay them for the "privilege".

What are the possibilities for stopping the cycle, as they slowly remove every option you have for maintaining at least the illusion of a modicum of privacy? I absolutely don't want an OS whose progression clearly indicates someone wants control of your data and network, has made sure you can't protect it, and doesn't care that you know it. I used to enjoy smartphones a lot more than I do now. Now I feel like I carry my enemy with me everywhere I go.

I know this is all off my original topic (I suppose I'm staying on Gingerbread unless Android finally gets serious about the music app industry that iOS is eating up), but this concern has been bothering me for some time now. I wonder how others deal with it, and why those who don't care... don't. This is all post 9/11 hyper-vigilance, but the people being sought all have encrypted communications and sophisticated means of avoiding detection and the rest of us are simply vulnerable to the whims of who-knows-whom. It's like going to work in the morning and leaving your door wide open, simply hoping that people will have the decency to leave your stuff alone. And we have to sign up--and pay ever more--for this sh*t two years at a time. Where's the up side for the average consumer?

**Stalemate 1** · 03-13-2013, 07:27 AM

don't do it ! you loose functionality such as power settings which is very irritating when I have 20% power my screen timeout becomes very short and I can't change it, also the UI changes to sense 3.6 and I experience that apps that ran immaculate on my device now have issues such as phero 3D. also shortcuts ain't so customisable because on gb you could have whatever you want but now its limited to what is in your home bar.

Tho I get a score of 400 or so higher in quadrant but score lower in other benchmarks such as RL.

I HATE THE UPDATE !

**Brian706** · 03-15-2013, 12:42 AM

Icecream Sandwich?! I'm running jellybean and it's great!

Okay to be fair, yes I'm rooted but jb really is awesome. But before that, I couldn't stand ics and used gingerbread. I can't quite put my finger on what i hate about ics but i couldn't stand using it. I rocked gb until I could get jb on my phone.

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**pergerson6** · 03-15-2013, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by Brian706

Icecream Sandwich?! I'm running jellybean and it's great!

Okay to be fair, yes I'm rooted but jb really is awesome. But before that, I couldn't stand ics and used gingerbread. I can't quite put my finger on what i hate about ics but i couldn't stand using it. I rocked gb until I could get jb on my phone.

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Yes 3.6 sense on ics does suck, but sense 4.1 on ics is great. Jellybean is even better, but I wish video playback and sound were a little better.

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**Brian706** · 03-15-2013, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by pergerson6

Yes 3.6 sense on ics does suck, but sense 4.1 on ics is great. Jellybean is even better, but I wish video playback and sound were a little better.

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Ah, i only tried 3.6. That may be why I didn't like it! I'm on 4.2.2 currently and loving it. Thanks for sharing

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