[Awake]

Nothing about patent infringements, that is for sure, right? I mean, have we stepped to the level of slugs? Lynch-mob is forming...

Did you not read my comment, do you comprehend what I said? Speaking of patents. The patent in question is something Apple acquired after the fact, other words, HTC was using the patent before Apple owned it. The compliance order and subsequent inspection is to make sure HTC removed the patent, not that HTC has been caught using it.

[Awake]

Sprint insiders everywhere are starting to confirm what's below...

Sprint Launch Delay (insidesprintnow.wordpress.com)

FULL Launch DELAY
No pre-orders will be shipped
No HTC EVO 4G LTE devices will be sold in stores on 5/18
Internal conversations put the launch delay at least 10 days out, however that’s up to customs and a court right now.

Damn that cancer ridden ****, he's even a pain in the neck from beyond the grave.

I reiterate, Customs has no jurisdiction over stock already in the warehouse. Only a court order can delay the shipments and launch. After all, it was Customs who allowed the initial shipment.

Forgot this:

In continuation of our earlier post – we can now [HL](un)officially[/HL] confirm that the FULL launch of the HTC EVO 4G LTE is now officially delayed. This is very preliminary, however, as of 11PM tonight, we can report

[Johnly]

Sprint insiders everywhere are starting to confirm what's below...

Sprint Launch Delay (insidesprintnow.wordpress.com)

FULL Launch DELAY
No pre-orders will be shipped
No HTC EVO 4G LTE devices will be sold in stores on 5/18
Internal conversations put the launch delay at least 10 days out, however that’s up to customs and a court right now.

Damn that cancer ridden ****, he's even a pain in the neck from beyond the grave.

Can you make it easy and source the article?

[Cubfan]

I effing hate Apple.


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[Johnly]

Did you not read my comment, do you comprehend what I said? Speaking of patents. The patent in question is something Apple acquired after the fact, other words, HTC was using the patent before Apple owned it. The compliance order and subsequent inspection is to make sure HTC removed the patent, not that HTC has been caught using it.

yup, read it, comprehend you comment. I am sure NBC is going to blow up with this story tomorrow.....everyone that has commented has killer sources. My bad G, carry on with the news, what else is next?

[Cubfan]

I just patented sucking, so now Apple owes me billions.

[nth_79]

For those of you interested in finding out more about this, here are a few interesting links:

- The ITC exclusion order:
- An article on HTC's strategy for avoiding infringement of Apple's patent:

So, can anyone verify that the HTC One X doesn't have the option to select one of a few actions after clicking on a phone number or any other action-linked data type?

Also, it's strange that the HTC One X is just now getting held up at customs. HTC is stating that the inspection is standard procedure because their products are subject to an ITC exclusion order. But, I imagine that the HTC One X should have been held up when it was first imported, not a few weeks afterward.

[Awake]

For those of you interested in finding out more about this, here are a few interesting links:

- The ITC exclusion order:
- An article on HTC's strategy for avoiding infringement of Apple's patent:

So, can anyone verify that the HTC One X doesn't have the option to select one of a few actions after clicking on a phone number or any other action-linked data type?

Also, it's strange that the HTC One X is just now getting held up at customs. HTC is stating that the inspection is standard procedure because their products are subject to an ITC exclusion order. But, I imagine that the HTC One X should have been held up when it was first imported, not a few weeks afterward.

The fact the patent office even excepted Apples application for that patent, shows they are morons. That is a basic feature that is in many devices not Apple related.

[Johnly]

The fact the patent office even excepted Apples application for that patent, shows they are morons. That is a basic feature that is in many devices not Apple related.

that is ridiculous.

There are two types, those that believe in intellectual propriety, and those that don't.
Queen, King, Black, or White, the politics are the same for those that think beyond columns and categories...does Apple have a basis to use my tax dollars to battle patent infringements at customs using my military, or is there more to this? If this story is true, then this is the saddest day this county has seen in quite some time. (yeah, call me a drama queen or whatever, only if you feel better afterwards)

[nth_79]

This is going to get tricky, but the main patent claim in question is as follows:
1. A computer-based system for detecting structures in data and performing actions on detected structures, comprising:
an input device for receiving data;
an output device for presenting the data;
a memory storing information including program routines including
an analyzer server for detecting structures in the data, and for linking actions to the detected structures;
a user interface enabling the selection of a detected structure and a linked action; and
an action processor for performing the selected action linked to the selected structure; and
a processing unit coupled to the input device, the output device, and the memory for controlling the execution of the program routines.

The patent was filed in 1996, which may have been before this feature ("data tapping") became so common. The key here is in the line "a user interface enabling the selection of a detected structure and a linked action". Although urls were commonly interpreted as data structures that should cause a new page to open after being selected, I'm not so sure that it was common that a user interface popped up asking the user to select which action they wanted to have be performed.

If anyone can find some evidence of this action being performed prior to 1996, HTC would be eternally grateful, and we might get our phones faster.

[Johnly]

This is going to get tricky, but the main patent claim in question is as follows:
1. A computer-based system for detecting structures in data and performing actions on detected structures, comprising:
an input device for receiving data;
an output device for presenting the data;
a memory storing information including program routines including
an analyzer server for detecting structures in the data, and for linking actions to the detected structures;
a user interface enabling the selection of a detected structure and a linked action; and
an action processor for performing the selected action linked to the selected structure; and
a processing unit coupled to the input device, the output device, and the memory for controlling the execution of the program routines.

The patent was filed in 1996, which may have been before this feature ("data tapping") became so common. The key here is in the line "a user interface enabling the selection of a detected structure and a linked action". Although urls were commonly interpreted as data structures that should cause a new page to open after being selected, I'm not so sure that it was common that a user interface popped up asking the user to select which action they wanted to have be performed.

If anyone can find some evidence of this action being performed prior to 1996, HTC would be eternally grateful, and we might get our phones faster.

Good post, love it. My antics are along the same field, but is this about a "patent" or about "espionage?"

[Awake]

that is ridiculous.

There are two types, those that believe in intellectual propriety, and those that don't.
Queen, King, Black, or White, the politics are the same for those that think beyond columns and categories...does Apple have a basis to use my tax dollars to battle patent infringements at customs using my military, or is there more to this? If this story is true, then this is the saddest day this county has seen in quite some time. (yeah, call me a drama queen or whatever, only if you feel better afterwards)

You keep missing the boat, that feature was being used before Apple was granted the patent. Apple is trying to stifle the competition. Like I commented previously, Apple did not design the patent.

[nth_79]

Good post, love it. My antics are along the same field, but is this about a "patent" or about "espionage?"

Wait, haha, I must have missed something. What is the connection to espionage?

[nth_79]

You keep missing the boat, that feature was being used before Apple was granted the patent. Apple is trying to stifle the competition. Like I commented previously, Apple did not design the patent.

I think we're on the same page with regard to the oddity that the HTC One X is just now getting delayed.

But, do you have some evidence that shows that the feature was being used before 1996? If so, that'd be a pretty awesome and exciting find. From a legal standpoint, it'd be even better if the evidence was from before February 1, 1995.

[Sh3ngLong]

So, can anyone verify that the HTC One X doesn't have the option to select one of a few actions after clicking on a phone number or any other action-linked data type?

My cousin has the One X and I texted him an email address. When he tapped at the email address link, it automatically opened a new composed email to that address in Gmail. There wasn't any menu of options that came up.

[vdc530]

So are you telling me the HTC EVO 4G LTE isn't going to have that feature of touching a phone number and it automatically adding it to my phone app, ready to dial?

Also, is Samsung limited by this too or is it only HTC?

[nth_79]

My cousin has the One X and I texted him an email address. When he tapped at the email address link, it automatically opened a new composed email to that address in Gmail. There wasn't any menu of options that came up.

So awesome. Thanks for checking. Does the same thing happen if you text message or email him a phone number?

[slippingsloth]

In response to Nth79


I'm curious as you seem to be somewhat knowledgeable, how does this differ from context recognition of right click menus in windows? the menus arise when you right click but if you right click on a hyper link or jpeg or plain text the menu that pops up is different(contextually). Isnt this action almost by definition what this patent patents? Wasnt this in windows 95?

[nth_79]

So are you telling me the HTC EVO 4G LTE isn't going to have that feature of touching a phone number and it automatically adding it to my phone app, ready to dial?

If HTC follows their strategy described in the article that I linked above, then the phone should automatically perform a default function when you select a phone number. I imagine that the initial default function will be to dial the number.

Also, is Samsung limited by this too or is it only HTC?

Not sure. It looks like Apple filed a suit over the same patent against Samsung, but the case hasn't been decided.

[Sh3ngLong]

I'll test out the phone number with him first thing tomorrow morning. I think he's asleep now. The email address test I did with him happened earlier today when the news broke out. I'll keep you guys posted.

[vdc530]

Go htc

[Sh3ngLong]

Would be great if this patent doesn't apply to third party apps like Handcent.

[nth_79]

I'm curious as you seem to be somewhat knowledgeable, how does this differ from context recognition of right click menus in windows? the menus arise when you right click but if you right click on a hyper link or jpeg or plain text the menu that pops up is different(contextually). Isnt this action almost by definition what this patent patents? Wasnt this in windows 95?

I agree with you that it does seem to be the same thing. Perhaps the distinction is that the device has receive generic data, e.g., a series of characters in a text message, then recognize particular data types, e.g., a phone number, and then make the phone number selectable.

I'm trying to recall windows 95, but I am a bit fuzzy. In what situation are you referring to when you see a hyper link, jpeg, or plain text? Are you referring to a web browser? I think in that situation, I think that the html data file provides the instructions to the browser that specify that data type, and how it should be presented to the user. So maybe it lacks the functionality of interpreting generic data and predicting a particular action based on the data structure. There are probably other situations that I'm not thinking of though.

[nth_79]

Would be great if this patent doesn't apply to third party apps like Handcent.

It probably doesn't because the claim would require Handcent to provide the phone (i.e., the input device for receiving data (the receiver?), the output device for presenting data (the display), the memory on the input device, and the processor).

[vdc530]

Word is coming in from sprint insider. Sprint has set up a conference and press release for 10AM. They will be announcing the indefinite delay of the launch because the problem with customs will take anywhere from 2-4 weeks to clear up. All pre-orders for the device will cease until a later time when a new pre-order window will be launched. Naturally, all current pre-orders will still be fulfilled on or shortly before the new release date and in fact, sprint customers will be first first to receive the phone.

Word is they're aiming for a first week of June release. Personally, I'm just going to get the Samsung Galaxy S3 seeing as its a June release now.

P.S. I **** on Steve Jobs grave.