- 06-16-2012, 03:37 PM #51
Re: WiFi disconnects in sleep
Wifi sleeps because by default it turns off under power saver. Read this post:
Hidden Feature in EVO LTE? Power Saver - 06-16-2012, 04:02 PM
Thread Author #52
Re: WiFi disconnects in sleep
WOW! This is another great find! I wish your posting came before the app before it, since I already applied the other one and this seems to have far more promise. I used "QuickShortcut" and searched for "Power" and sure enough- there it was.... "Settings Power saver settings".
I have attached a screenshot.Click "Thanks" and/or "Like" button on posts where someone helped you or you liked the posting. Provide HTC feedback here: http://www.htc.com/www/contact/email - 06-18-2012, 04:42 PM
Thread Author #53
Re: WiFi disconnects in sleep
The behavior on my phone has definitely changed. Unfortunately, some of my tests were ruined (a long story), so now I can't tell whether it was the hidden "Power save" settings, or the SmartSync Disabler or some combination of the two. Further complicating things is that the behavior of the connection is inconsistent.
When I check the phone in the morning, the connection is always on now. And if I stay at home and check it a few hours later, it still seems to always be connected. But when I get to work, wait 30 min or something before touching it, SOMETIMES it is connected to WiFi at work, sometimes it is not. So sometimes, in the background, it will notice an access point change, other times it will not. Still a huge improvement over stock behavior- where it seems to be off almost all the time.Click "Thanks" and/or "Like" button on posts where someone helped you or you liked the posting. Provide HTC feedback here: http://www.htc.com/www/contact/email - 06-18-2012, 05:21 PM #54
- 06-18-2012, 06:16 PM
Thread Author #55
Re: WiFi disconnects in sleep
Actually, no, I am not saying that. I am saying I don't know what is happening. I ended up doing two things at once, the hidden "Power save" settings and the SmartSync Disabler. It wasn't my initial intent, and ruined clean testing.
I would suggest trying one, compare to the stock behavior, then much later, the other, and compare/contrast to the other and to stock behavior. Now I am waiting to try and figure out the current behavior before turning one or the other off
* If you believe the power saver 20% thing, then it will have no effect during normal use on WiFi disconnects.
* If you believe the SmartSync only happens from 00:00 to 07:00, then it will have no effect during the daytime WiFi disconnects.
I can say that there is a difference on my phone which neither of the above statements can account for.Click "Thanks" and/or "Like" button on posts where someone helped you or you liked the posting. Provide HTC feedback here: http://www.htc.com/www/contact/email - 06-18-2012, 06:55 PM #56
- 06-18-2012, 10:15 PM
Thread Author #57
Re: WiFi disconnects in sleep
They only acknowledge the problem on the International version, which uses a totally different CPU/GPU/chipset from the USA One X and the Evo LTE. It is totally irrelevant news to us.
ANYWAY... was out eating, used my phone on 3G. When I got home, I put the unused-for-an-hour phone on the desk and washed my hands. Picked up the phone and turned the screen on. WiFi was already on, active, and connected to my home router. This is the correct behavior I have always had with all my other Android devices, and it is the first time I have ever seen the Evo LTE do it.Last edited by crxssi; 06-18-2012 at 10:24 PM.
Click "Thanks" and/or "Like" button on posts where someone helped you or you liked the posting. Provide HTC feedback here: http://www.htc.com/www/contact/email - 06-21-2012, 08:19 AM #58
Re: WiFi disconnects in sleep
My wifi connects and disconnects even while in use. Just reading these posts, my wifi has gone to 3g and back 10+ times. It does it while on facebook, internet, or just sitting around.The most wifi time I get is a few minutes. I have a dual band router and tried using only 2.4 and 5 but no luck. Any suggestions?
- 06-21-2012, 08:48 AM #59
- 06-21-2012, 09:05 AM #60
Re: WiFi disconnects in sleep
I had this issue until last night. The weird thing was, wifi was SOLID at work, but exactly like both of you are describing at home. So I thought it may be a setting on the home router that the EVO didn't like (even though it should).
So I switched to G only, still got dropouts.
Switched authentication methods, still got dropouts.
Turned on "Bluetooth Coexistence" to "Preemptive" and BAM, the connection stayed for the rest of the night and for the first time, my 4AM Titanium Backup to Dropbox completed successfully!
It's only a few hours of testing, but I have never gotten that steady of a connection at home with this phone.
I have TomatoUSB firmware on my router FYI. - 06-21-2012, 04:51 PM
Thread Author #61
Re: WiFi disconnects in sleep
It is worth noting that this thread (of mine) is not the right place for information about WiFi dropping while using the phone.... it is about disconnections while sleeping.
That aside...
I am pretty sure those issues with disconnects while USING the phone have everything to do with the access points/routers being used. However, I also use Toastman Tomato 1.28 (WRT54GL) and have my "Bluetooth Coexistence" set to disabled (the default) and don't have a bit of problem with losing connections while using the phone... ever... at home or work (same models).Click "Thanks" and/or "Like" button on posts where someone helped you or you liked the posting. Provide HTC feedback here: http://www.htc.com/www/contact/email - 06-21-2012, 04:54 PM
Thread Author #62
Re: WiFi disconnects in sleep
Just an update- not much has changed since my last report. It is still much better than the stock behavior. It never seems to disconnect from a router now, regardless of how long it sleeps. But sometimes will and sometimes will not connect to new routers when moved to a new location while it is asleep. Very inconsistent there.
Click "Thanks" and/or "Like" button on posts where someone helped you or you liked the posting. Provide HTC feedback here: http://www.htc.com/www/contact/email - 06-24-2012, 12:14 AM #63
Re: WiFi disconnects in sleep
I've been experiencing the same thing and have only noticed it at home too. Hopefully, HTC is listening and provides a repair soon. I always have to go into WiFi and turn it off and back on again to make it reconnec.
- 06-24-2012, 06:55 AM
Thread Author #64
Re: WiFi disconnects in sleep
That is not the same thing at all. I never lost connection while I am using the phone, only when it went to sleep. And when it was awakened, it only took a few to several seconds for it to automatically re-establish connection.
I think you want one of these threads:
WiFi Issues
Wifi harware issue?
WIFI and BlueTooth on together causing the bouncy signalClick "Thanks" and/or "Like" button on posts where someone helped you or you liked the posting. Provide HTC feedback here: http://www.htc.com/www/contact/email - 06-28-2012, 07:20 PM
Thread Author #65
Re: WiFi disconnects in sleep
Click "Thanks" and/or "Like" button on posts where someone helped you or you liked the posting. Provide HTC feedback here: http://www.htc.com/www/contact/email - 07-01-2012, 01:06 AM #66
Re: WiFi disconnects in sleep
Is it possible you were always testing while under 20% battery or after mid night?
I haven't noticed a problem with Wifi dropping while idle except at night, due to Smartsync, which I eventually disabled manually after rooting... Maybe I just didn't test enough under stock conditions tho.
I can tell you Smart/dumbsync definitely only kicks in at night, so if the other settings did something else for you then you may be unto something... Most people believe those settings only kick in while low on power or not at all (which would explain why they're now hidden), but maybe it's a mix of things and some are now deep sleep/long idle settings? /shrug
I disabled a few of them since I always found them problematic anyway. On my EVO 3D the power saver setting for data would knock off push or make them eterratic, even after the phone was fully charged... Basically push notifications became useless until after I rebooted.
I nearly did cartwheels the day I discovered that setting was behind my push notification issues with the previous EVO. I discovered it by chance, never would've guessed they were related since actual background data use by apps was unaffected and the status bar 3g indicator gave no clue what was going on. I tested it beyond doubt tho, with it on push was kaput even after the phone was no longer low on power, with it off no issues. - 07-01-2012, 07:10 AM
Thread Author #67
Re: WiFi disconnects in sleep
Well, look up in the postings, above. That can be disabled using an app from Google Play, without rooting. And it seems to work. I am at a complete loss why HTC thinks it is acceptable to disable all data at night when phone is sleeping between arbitrary hours, and then offer no documentation about it and no way to turn that "feature" off. It doesn't even make sense. If the user were asleep, it is likely the phone would be on a charger, so why disable anything? And what if the user is not asleep and depends on notifications for something?
Agreed. And I prefer to now think of it as STUPIDsync.I can tell you Smart/dumbsync definitely only kicks in at night,
Exactly. I simply cannot tell if those "hidden" settings are doing anything or not. It is so inconsistent and confusing, I just can't tell. They might have been hidden because they are not used anymore, or because they mean something totally different not. But things are still not "right".so if the other settings did something else for you then you may be unto something... Most people believe those settings only kick in while low on power or not at all (which would explain why they're now hidden), but maybe it's a mix of things and some are now deep sleep/long idle settings? /shrugClick "Thanks" and/or "Like" button on posts where someone helped you or you liked the posting. Provide HTC feedback here: http://www.htc.com/www/contact/email - 07-01-2012, 07:26 AM #68
I hit a data overage on my Xoom cause of this. I was uploading a large movie to my Google Drive over wifi at home, to avoid using data. I went to work and started getting warning messages. By the time I got ahold of my gf and had her turn off my tablet, it had already eaten 1gb.
I just checked the wifi sleep state and by default on the Xoom (official ICS build) wifi is on only while plugged in. I guess it makes sense sorta to save battery. But my bill with VZW doesn't think so. Funny thing I called vzw about it and while they were sorry about the overage (not sorry enough to drop them tho), they didn't know anything about the wifi setting. Their suggestion:
Turn off your tablet when not using it
Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk 2 - 07-03-2012, 10:04 PM #69
Re: WiFi disconnects in sleep
"UPDATE: Many users have confirmed this happens. Has been reported to HTC and they reluctantly confirm it does this but offer no solid explanation as to why."
I would bet its purposely intended by htc/sprint to perhaps keep us from using /getting free wifi tether so that when phones screen goes out it cuts off that wifi connection. Then again i may be blowing my statement out of proportion cause i have as yet to test wifi tether out on my phone to see if indeed it does cut the signal to laptop after screen off.
- 07-09-2012, 11:21 PM #70
Re: WiFi disconnects in sleep
This is BS as i just exchanged my phone via warranty. After finding out that supposedly phones that start with serial#'s HT23 and HT24 have the wifi hardware issue and HT25+ numbers are fixed.. Well i just received my HTC ONE X that starts with HT26 and it's even worse now.. Before i would lose connection and get delays when receiving Google Talk and Gmail notifications, like 2-10 mins delayed now when the phone goes to sleep within 10 seconds i no longer receive any messages literally not even with delays until i wake up the phone!! SO LIES LIES LIES nothing has been fixed not even on newer phones!!
On 4g if i disable wifi i have 0 issues, but come on i have 3GB data on my at&t plan not unlimited... if i had unlimited i would not care....... cuz i can keep wifi off, but that is not the case so at work i have wifi and home i have wif and would like to use my wifi when possible so i could use my data when im on the road etc... THIS IS TOTAL BS!! I'm about to ask AT&T if i can send it back and just get a Galaxy S3 instead..... wtf and i really like the HOX. - 09-23-2012, 12:21 PM #71
Re: WiFi disconnects in sleep
i had faced this problem ( WiFi disconnects in sleep) and very much upset and frustrated as i always miss my calls from viber and many. For me, the prob was that, i had downloaded the battery saving apps and that app was the culprit here. To me, i simply removed that app and now everything work well.....
Just try this way...... - 10-30-2012, 10:44 PM #72
- 01-16-2013, 08:27 AM #73
- 01-16-2013, 09:06 AM #74
Re: WiFi disconnects in sleep
It is not API changes, I work for Google as a deployment engineer and nothing has changed. Also I also own a Note 2 and no wifi issues there only on the HTC ONE X. HTC confirmed that was intended to save battery life so there you have it. I think it's a big price to pay delays to save battery, I rather it drain more battery but have my alerts in real time.
- 01-21-2013, 03:39 AM #75



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