[Mobileschoney]

Well I would hate to say it WILL fix it as I am not an Android guru but it seems to fix my issue. I went back to Dolphin Mini as my browser, I like mini better anyway.

[Starfleet Captain]

And can sometime explain the contact picture issue because it's simply NOT and issue for me or a friend with an LTEVO.

Ok, with both the Evo 4G and the Evo 3D, I did not use the stock texting app. On the OG EVO, I used the Handcent app and on the Evo 3D, I used GoSMS pro. Both of these apps are superior to the stock texting app and have more features. On those phones, When I open either of those apps, a list of my text conversations appear, along with the photo of each person as long as they had a linked photo in the people app. Whether it was my own photo or a linked Facebook photo, whatever photo that was linked in the people app showed up in any text app I used... As it should be.

On this phone, the pictures only show up on the stock texting app. On 3rd party texting apps like GoSMS pro, the only contacts whose pictures show up are the ones have have pictures that I have linked with my own photo, rather than their Facebook pictures. All of my contacts who have linked Facebook photos will not have their photos show up in 3rd party text apps.


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[kronosqq]

Yeah either your not a power user who is constantly on there phone that would recognise these issues or your just turning your head in disbelief. If there wasn't a issue we wouldn't be having this conversation. These are the facts, multitasking is a joke, HTC reloads are happening so much that I am on nova indefinitely so I can't enjoy sense, web sites blow as they're constantly blinking and downloadinwork keeps dropping which is ok that can be a sprint problem but my gf photon isn't having ts issue etc. I mean I love this phone but in a way it has definitely taken steps back that any software upgrade can't fix. For this reason I'm returning it and yes biting my tongue gonna give the s3 a shot. This is why. For one if im not using sense cuz of the constant reloads I might as well get a phone with stronger internals. Another reason is obvious as there isn't a problem with multitasking on the s3. At this point the only leg up I see with the EVO is the screen is superior to Samsung's pentile matrix which is well ok but under what HTC has to offer. Other than that there's not much in stopping me in giving Sammy a try. Who knows I might come back to the EVO but will give the s3 29 days to turn me over.

I am most certainly a power user, now for the last time... I BELIEVE that these issues are out there, what I don't believe is that they're as bad as described here on ALL devices.

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[Starfleet Captain]

I won't comment much more on the contact pictures since I'm using the stock app and frankly don't have much experience with 3rd party ones, but apparently katmandoo122 got it to work on theirs, might want to look into that to see if you can use whatever method they used.

To answer some of the root related questions that you have though, first off, I think a big reason why the Evo 3D didn't get all that much support was because of the 3D, it apparently made camera drivers a bit hard to work with, especially when trying to port ICS to it. While the ImageSense technology might cause a similar problem I think it will a much faster fix for a few reasons.
1. The Evo 4G LTE has created a much bigger buzz because it's more of a successor to the original, not just an incremental upgrade with 3D thrown in. That means more developer support.
2. There are already at least 6 distinct ROMs on XDA, quite a few mods, a one click root method, and a custom bootloader unlocker. In well under 3 weeks. Many of them are progressing pretty quickly too.
3. It's already running ICS which make drivers less of a problem.
4. Drivers won't matter for Sense ROMs anyway, it would only create a problem (maybe) with stock ICS ROMs.

Now, I think there's a distinction between what the phone was meant to do and what the software it comes with was meant to do. For instance, the phone was meant to create a wi-fi hotspot, it's Sprint that imposes the cost on that if you stay away from rooting. As you've said, the phone was also meant to have true multitasking, it has more than enough system resources to do it, but apparently Sense locks that down a bit. Rooting, in my mind, unlocks the true potential of what the phone was designed to do, not necessarily makes it do things that it isn't supposed to.

From glancing over the XDA threads it looks like on the current build, un-rooting is no harder than rooting at the moment. If there's ever an official OTA you can still get that while rooted, and the update will probably unroot you itself. The apps that use root access don't generally require root access to install, but they will require it (and possibly superuser as well) to actually work as intended. Unrooting won't break the app itself, but you'll no longer be able to use the capabilities you had with it when you were rooted. Again, I think the developer support for this phone will be such so that even if you install an OTA that breaks your root, there will be another root method for the new version quite soon after it rolls out.

Also, I'd bet that fixing the multitasking wouldn't require you to flash a whole new ROM on there, I think it's something more likely to occur as a mod sometime soon.

Oh and somebody correct me if I'm wrong here, but I believe that Sense stops running in the background (at least after a restart) if you switch to a different launcher).

Thank you for the information! I think I may eventually go the way of rooting but I need to do it with a device that I'm confident I will be sticking with.

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[kronosqq]

Not sure what the deal is but twice now I have installed GOOGLE Chrome and then my 4g LTE starts with the loading. Once I uninstall chrome, no more loading. I saw this on a forum, maybe here, it does seem to cause the problem.

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Immediately upon installing it? That's interesting, I've only encountered the bug where the chrome shortcut disappears from the lock screen after being updated. Have you checked to see resource usage when chrome is running with your other apps?

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[Mobileschoney]

On the contact photos I have the same issue. If I unsync my facebook contacts then my photos show, if I have a photo on my phone linked to the contact. As soon as I sync facebook contacts my Handcent photos are gone. This behavior does not occur in the stock messaging app.

[kronosqq]

Thank you for the information! I think I may eventually go the way of rooting but I need to do it with a device that I'm confident I will be sticking with.

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Glad to supply it! I'd definitely recommend taking a spin by the android development section at xda just to see whether they've cooked up any fixes for your problems before you make a final decision about returning or keeping.

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[Mobileschoney]

Immediately upon installing it? That's interesting, I've only encountered the bug where the chrome shortcut disappears from the lock screen after being updated. Have you checked to see resource usage when chrome is running with your other apps?

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Yes, I as soon as I unistalled. Sorry, I did not check resources and I no longer have it installed.

[Anthonicia]

U honestly think it's mainly because of chrome sense is reloading? I have chrome and my phone hasn't gone to loading once, nor has it restarted.

It's restarting bc sense is so bloated it hogs system memory. Your answer is rooting and installing a custom Rom that isn't so huge it takes up 90% of usable memory. Then running chrome won't be an issue.

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[jfstx1]

also not to mention the gs3 will only support 5x5 channels of lte and the evo will support 10x10 when sprint starts the upgrades to nv

[Starfleet Captain]

also not to mention the gs3 will only support 5x5 channels of lte and the evo will support 10x10 when sprint starts the upgrades to nv

This is haven't heard. What exactly does that mean?

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[Mercury81]

This thread is pretty wild since it started four friends of mine purchased the Evo4GLTE...:thumbup:

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[Starfleet Captain]

On the contact photos I have the same issue. If I was unsync my facebook contacts then my photos show, or if I have a photo on my phone linked to the contact. As soon as I sync facebook contacts my Handcent photos are gone. This behavior does not occur in the stock massaging app.

So if I unsync Facebook with my contacts will the Facebook pictures still show up in the People app as well as GoSMS pro?

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[BigDinCA]

U honestly think it's mainly because of chrome sense is reloading? I have chrome and my phone hasn't gone to loading once, nor has it restarted.

It's restarting bc sense is so bloated it hogs system memory. Your answer is rooting and installing a custom Rom that isn't so huge it takes up 90% of usable memory. Then running chrome won't be an issue.

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That's your opinion. I've had it for two weeks. I have Chrome installed, but have only played with it a couple of times. Sense has never restarted on me. Not one time. And I am an enormous power user. I run a small business from this phone, so I use it constantly during the week. On the weekends I have been putting this thing through it's paces to check the battery performance. I've had days where I get a little less than 8 hours, and times where I get a day plus 5 hours. And through everything I do, not one Sense reboot. Although that may be due to the fact that on your device, Sense is apparently taking up 90% of your space. You have a different Sense 4.0 than I do.

There are obviously some issues with some people's devices, but that doesn't mean everyone has the same experience. And saying that the fix is to root your device is silly. I wanted this device. I like Sense. If I root it will be by choice, not out of necessity. I'm sure HTC will, as they always have, push out a maintenance update soon. They already have for the One X.

[jfstx1]

One of the few notable differences is that the Galaxy S3, like its Galaxy Nexus sibling, supports only 5 MHz x 5 MHz LTE carriers, while the EVO 4G LTE can do both 5 MHz x 5 MHz and 10 MHz x 10 MHz LTE bandwidths. it should not matter for at least of couple of years.. so if you upgrade your phone alot then no biggy. Verizon has 10x10 now. meaning faster data.

[Anthonicia]

That's your opinion. I've had it for two weeks. I have Chrome installed, but have only played with it a couple of times. Sense has never restarted on me. Not one time. And I am an enormous power user. I run a small business from this phone, so I use it constantly during the week. On the weekends I have been putting this thing through it's paces to check the battery performance. I've had days where I get a little less than 8 hours, and times where I get a day plus 5 hours. And through everything I do, not one Sense reboot. Although that may be due to the fact that on your device, Sense is apparently taking up 90% of your space. You have a different Sense 4.0 than I do.

There are obviously some issues with some people's devices, but that doesn't mean everyone has the same experience. And saying that the fix is to root your device is silly. I wanted this device. I like Sense. If I root it will be by choice, not out of necessity. I'm sure HTC will, as they always have, push out a maintenance update soon. They already have for the One X.

Ok, go to settings-apps-running

How much RAM do u have free? Mine is around 80% used up but I don't have 200+ apps on mine.

If u cared to research rooting at all u would see that u can have your issues fixed and eat your sense cake too. Rooting is why Android is what it is. Linux is open sourced,.always has been.

Go buy an iPhone if u want functionality out of the box.

And I haven't had my phone restart once. Don't know what your referring too.

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[Joseh720]

I know you mentioned you didn't want to root your phone but trust me this is your best option to get everything you want and then some. I do agree some of this stuff should be working stock but unfortunately it does not so you have to mod it to get it! Rooting is very simple. There is a one click method that does it ALL for you. Rooting opens your phone up to possibilities you wouldn't believe.

is there a one click method to bring it back to stock rom

[dre22era]

To everyone complaining about multitasking
if yall got what you wanted then yall would then be complaining about the battery life.
At the end of the day, this is still a "cell phone". if you want to multitask that bad then buy a tablet

[BigDinCA]

Ok, go to settings-apps-running

How much RAM do u have free? Mine is around 80% used up but I don't have 200+ apps on mine.

If u cared to research rooting at all u would see that u can have your issues fixed and eat your sense cake too. Rooting is why Android is what it is. Linux is open sourced,.always has been.

Go buy an iPhone if u want functionality out of the box.

And I haven't had my phone restart once. Don't know what your referring too.

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Who are you? The Root Police? I don't have an issue with free RAM. And I don't have any issues that need fixing. Are you not actually reading posts?

I'm pretty sure a majority of us here are familiar with Linux and the entire Android experience, including the ability to root. I'm also 110% positive that I am not required to root. I have the option to, which means I also have the option to enjoy my device as stock if I so choose. I pay for a device, and HTC builds a device, that should be functional out of the box. Don't tell me to buy an iPhone. That whole statement makes you sound pretentious. If I wanted one, I would get it. If I wanted to root, I would.

And as far as you not knowing what I'm referring to in reference to restarts (Sense by the way, not the phone - that's what I originally said), I'm referring to this thread that we are both commenting in. You may not have noticed that a few people here are talking about Sense restarting a lot.

And for the record, I have 73 apps installed and I am running about 35% free RAM.

[jroc]

Ok, go to settings-apps-running

How much RAM do u have free? Mine is around 80% used up but I don't have 200+ apps on mine.

If u cared to research rooting at all u would see that u can have your issues fixed and eat your sense cake too. Rooting is why Android is what it is. Linux is open sourced,.always has been.

Go buy an iPhone if u want functionality out of the box.

And I haven't had my phone restart once. Don't know what your referring too.

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I saw you mention this before...

So....if another Android phone has the functionality he wants out the box.....he should still get an iPhone?

last time I checked...rooting wasnt a requirement for owning or using an Android phone. It does have its advantages. It is a solution.....but it shouldnt be root or get an iPhone...

How about try another Android phone that does what he wants? Maybe the GS3 will do it the way he wants? We have to get out the mindset of root or go home.

To everyone complaining about multitasking
if yall got what you wanted then yall would then be complaining about the battery life.
At the end of the day, this is still a "cell phone". if you want to multitask that bad then buy a tablet

Multi tasking and battery life hasnt really been a problem for the GS3 so far...that in battery life tests came out on top of the One X. If one phone does it ok and doesnt really have battery issues...it is what it is....

[midmofan]

For all of the above that were asking about the Sense reloading issue, apart from the many, many, many threads and posts here in the Android Central LTE Forum that mention it (just do a search for "sense loading," "sense reloading," "sense resetting," "sense restarting," "sense crashing" "sense booting/re-booting," and "sense ate the last piece of cheesecake....") here is a brief history:

In general Sense has had "reloading upon return to home" troubles across platforms for about a year or so depending on the device and the update where it seems to have started:















HTC's "community" forum had a number of threads about it which pop up if you do a google search but seem to have been deleted:




Specifically with the EVO LTE:



http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc...9-loading.html



This is also a problem on the One X:



For me, I started having problems with it on my OG Evo a few months ago after having the thing for a year and a half with it not being a problem. Can't be certain, but would not surprise me if it started happening after a Dolphin Browser update. I note in some threads that going to Dolphin mini seemed to help some people and exiting out of Chrome seems to be one of the biggest triggers to the problem.

So what to take from all of this? Well, it is clearly a known problem that has been around for some time so don't expect an OTA to fix it anytime soon. It seems to stem from (surprise, surprise) how much of the RAM Sense takes up and how sense handles conflicts for scarce resources. Therefore, if you only use the stock browser, close out apps totally, keep your cache cleared and don't do any thing too demanding RAM-wise, you may never experience the issue.

If it is a problem, then the third-party launchers do seem to take care of it and, of course, there is rooting. The only reason I have not rooted yet is that I am a bit lazy and i want to make sure there is not some sort of huge OTA update that will cause the dev's to rework their ROMs and also to give time for people like Viper to get all the tweaks and mods in place.

[Ntchwaidumela]

I'm feeling similar and agree with some of what your saying specially the sense reloads and the multitasking. For example I'm on a web page hit home and go back to it it reloads all over again. I can't stand that and its something I won't get use to. So what am I going to do?? Gonna take advantage of BB 30 day return policy and check out the s3 plain and simple. I've had all EVO's from launch including this one but like I stated above its problems are making me look elsewhere

Sense seems to have that reloading problem it's had for the past several versions. If that's your biggest problem, install GO Launcher EX and make it your default. It's extremely flexible and gives you many personalization options, and it's FREE. It's now become the choice for multitudes. You might also want to try GO SMS Pro; it's also FREE.

[Ntchwaidumela]

I was on the same boat, debating whether to return my EVO LTE and wait for the GS3 to come out. My two main issues right now is the warm temperature screen and the infamous multi-tasking issue. I had the Sense reloading issue occur once so far. I'm hoping it doesn't get any worse.

My 14 days is already up, so I'm hoping HTC will release an update soon to address these issues. If not, then I'll wait and see if Sprint will pick up the rumored Galaxy Note II this October.

Don't expect HTC to even acknowledge Sense has a rebooting problem. I contacted them several times about this problem with my current phone. No written replies at all. I finally got to a service rep and the only option was for me to mail my phone to them to be "analyzed" and wait about a month for them to return it. I was polite and didn't actually say WTF! Instead, I installed GO Launcher EX (which is FREE) and made it my default. Never had a relaunching problem again...and it's much more customizable, too.

[mech1164]

I just figure that when my Evo4G first came out, it had bugs, but it's had 2 years of updates to stabilize all that. When I upgrade to the Evo LTE in a few weeks, I'll expect that this is rev 1.0 of the firmware and it'll have bugs but it'll get better with updates. The impatience of some people boggles my mind.

You are right, over time these all will be worked out. The issue is though, will they get out a proper update before many who bought this phone last week need to return in the grace period. At this moment i'm 75-25 to packing this POS device and say bye bye Sprint. I have a feeling that if an OTA doesn't get here by next Friday Sprint is gonna have a lot of refurbs on their hands.

[solo1]

is there a one click method to bring it back to stock rom

You can root your phone WITHOUT flashing a new rom ... There is a basic one click methhod to ROOT and yes there is basically a one click method to UNROOT but its the ROM you flash on the device thats going to change the feel of your device and that is not a one step process.