Why is there nothing going on with this phone dissapointed!!

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to me the htc evo 4g lte is far from ugly, second if you dont like it and thought it was ugly and ended up buying it then its your own fault so stop your b****ing. next time before you buy something how bout doing some research on the phone, no one forced you to buy it, you did that all on your own. sick of seeing ppl complaining over stuff like this when its there own fault 90 percent of the time over what there b****ing over.
 

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Just Google "HTC Evo LTE ugly" and you'll find an evening worth of reading material. The design of the new Evo has taken quite a beating. Adopters are talking about immediately slapping a case on to hide the back of the phone. One poster says he makes sure he sets his Evo down on a table face side up when in public. Tons of threads talking about methods for painting or sanding the top plastic piece. People wondering if there will be after market matt finished plastic pieces created. The back of the phone gets more attention than its specs.

The S3 may not have a ground breaking design. It definitely didn't push the envelope. Some say it's attractive. Most seem to say it's bland. Boring.
But no one's worried about placing one back side up on a table.
Everyone puts their phone in a case, except me.
 

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Have both phones sitting in front of me been using to s3 more just because of the multitasking. If the evo worked like this there would be no contest. All I wanted was the evo to stay the browser long enough for me to go to drop box to look at a file and come back but nope reloads the Page.... Not a big issue in less you are on a secure Site that does not allow going back or refreshing the Page and will kick you out if you did... Other then that evo ftw

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I want cyanogen jelly bean vanilla. When that comes. I think I'm going to root. Haven't found the need to yet.

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Just Google "HTC Evo LTE ugly" and you'll find an evening worth of reading material.

What that provides is a lot of people who don't know squat about design giving their uninformed opinion. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but I work as a designer and deal with uninformed opinions on a regular basis. Few people feel qualified to argue with lawyers, doctors, engineers, ditch diggers, plumbers, carpenters, or the guy who runs the produce department at the local supermarket. Sure, a few people out there are know-it-alls and will tell anyone how to do their jobs, but for the most part folks tend to "leave it to the experts." But not when it comes to design. After all, they've used MS Paint and PowerPoint, and all of their friends thought the invitations for little Suzy's birthday party were simply precious.

Who hasn't heard that design is subjective? It isn't. Not by a long shot. Most people don't even know what design is, much less how to do it. That sometimes even includes people who have somehow worked their way into the field. Look and feel, what many people mistakenly think is the primary goal of design, is only one small-ish part of the discipline. For example, if someone builds the most amazing-looking chair, but the tacks fastening the upholstery stab the user when they sit down and then it tips over when they try to stand up, then they suck as designers.

So, let's look at our EVO 's. Thin enough to fit in a pocket and to compensate for the added width of that massive, gorgeous screen? Check. Camera lens recessed enough to protect it from scratches? Yep. Are the buttons easy to use? Do they feel sturdy? Are they unobtrusive yet intuitively placed? Yes, yes, and yes. Are expected features, such as the kickstand, not only present but quite noticeably improved? Definitely. So far, not a single design flaw to be found.

Now, hold it in your hand. That cool metal exterior feels solid and substantial, yet still light and thin. Set it on a table where other people have also set their phones. One phone will stand out more than all of the others. Yours. Which brings us to the "design" that some people have such a problem with.

Whether one likes the look and feel of something is a matter of taste and opinion. However, even that part of design is not subjective, not when it is done well, and everything about the EVO's design is done well. The colors are classic, yet very distinctive. Just enough asymmetry to keep it from having that borning, chunky, blocky iLook. The metallic highlights are subtle and add to the impression that this is a solid, serious piece of cutting edge technology. The curves accent how thin and sleek the phone is. All-in-all, there isn't a single flaw in the look and feel aspect of the design.

A serious design review without negatives of any sort isn't likely to be thorough or competently done, and there are some here. Necessity may be the mother of invention, but it also often requires tradeoffs, which accounts for the few problems that I could find with this design.

The kickstand is very stiff and not always easy to pull out. In fact, until I learned to be careful opening it, I got jabbed under my fingernail a couple of times. Given that my OG EVO's kickstand became as floppy as pre-Viagra Bob Dole after about a year's worth of use, and the fact that it now works 3 ways, the compromise required for this design choice is acceptable.

Another issue that I have found is that sometimes when I am holding the phone in landscape mode I inadvertently turn up the volume, which then changes my sound profile if I have it set to silent. Occasionally I also turn on the camera when I don't mean to, as well. Since the buttons can either be convenient or safely hidden out of the way, I think the choice to make them convenient is also a reasonable tradeoff.

So basically, this is an exceptionally well-designed phone by any and all reasonable and informed standards. Does that mean that anyone who doesn't like the way this phone looks is stupid or wrong? Not in the least. People have a right to have an opinion about aesthetics based on personal preference. But to use that preference as the basis to say that this is a poorly designed phone exemplifies the dictionary definition of ignorance.
 

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What that provides is a lot of people who don't know squat about design giving their uninformed opinion. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but I work as a designer and deal with uninformed opinions on a regular basis. Few people feel qualified to argue with lawyers, doctors, engineers, ditch diggers, plumbers, carpenters, or the guy who runs the produce department at the local supermarket. Sure, a few people out there are know-it-alls and will tell anyone how to do their jobs, but for the most part folks tend to "leave it to the experts." But not when it comes to design. After all, they've used MS Paint and PowerPoint, and all of their friends thought the invitations for little Suzy's birthday party were simply precious.

Who hasn't heard that design is subjective? It isn't. Not by a long shot. Most people don't even know what design is, much less how to do it. That sometimes even includes people who have somehow worked their way into the field. Look and feel, what many people mistakenly think is the primary goal of design, is only one small-ish part of the discipline. For example, if someone builds the most amazing-looking chair, but the tacks fastening the upholstery stab the user when they sit down and then it tips over when they try to stand up, then they suck as designers.

So, let's look at our EVO 's. Thin enough to fit in a pocket and to compensate for the added width of that massive, gorgeous screen? Check. Camera lens recessed enough to protect it from scratches? Yep. Are the buttons easy to use? Do they feel sturdy? Are they unobtrusive yet intuitively placed? Yes, yes, and yes. Are expected features, such as the kickstand, not only present but quite noticeably improved? Definitely. So far, not a single design flaw to be found.

Now, hold it in your hand. That cool metal exterior feels solid and substantial, yet still light and thin. Set it on a table where other people have also set their phones. One phone will stand out more than all of the others. Yours. Which brings us to the "design" that some people have such a problem with.

Whether one likes the look and feel of something is a matter of taste and opinion. However, even that part of design is not subjective, not when it is done well, and everything about the EVO's design is done well. The colors are classic, yet very distinctive. Just enough asymmetry to keep it from having that borning, chunky, blocky iLook. The metallic highlights are subtle and add to the impression that this is a solid, serious piece of cutting edge technology. The curves accent how thin and sleek the phone is. All-in-all, there isn't a single flaw in the look and feel aspect of the design.

A serious design review without negatives of any sort isn't likely to be thorough or competently done, and there are some here. Necessity may be the mother of invention, but it also often requires tradeoffs, which accounts for the few problems that I could find with this design.

The kickstand is very stiff and not always easy to pull out. In fact, until I learned to be careful opening it, I got jabbed under my fingernail a couple of times. Given that my OG EVO's kickstand became as floppy as pre-Viagra Bob Dole after about a year's worth of use, and the fact that it now works 3 ways, the compromise required for this design choice is acceptable.

Another issue that I have found is that sometimes when I am holding the phone in landscape mode I inadvertently turn up the volume, which then changes my sound profile if I have it set to silent. Occasionally I also turn on the camera when I don't mean to, as well. Since the buttons can either be convenient or safely hidden out of the way, I think the choice to make them convenient is also a reasonable tradeoff.

So basically, this is an exceptionally well-designed phone by any and all reasonable and informed standards. Does that mean that anyone who doesn't like the way this phone looks is stupid or wrong? Not in the least. People have a right to have an opinion about aesthetics based on personal preference. But to use that preference as the basis to say that this is a poorly designed phone exemplifies the dictionary definition of ignorance.

You said a lot of pretty stuff yet you totally missed the point of my post. It has absolutely nothing to do with individual design elements. It has everything to do with aesthetics.
Unfortunately the Evo lte has been widely regarded as ugly. Some have used hideous. The buying masses want cool. They want to spend their $200 on a device their friends will find attractive. They couldn't care less how cleverly the aluminum was machined to create the silver surround of the device. If the customer picks it up and says, "That's ugly!" no amount of design awards and certificates of extraordinary build quality are gonna make him pull out his wallet.
If it walks like a duck...

HTC's announcement that they're removing their focus from the U. S. market speaks volumes. Seems like not many folks have opened their wallets.
 

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Which brings up the fact the Evo4GLTE design is uniquely exquisite, flawless in form, functionality and style..:thumbup::beer:;):D:).

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You said a lot of pretty stuff yet you totally missed the point of my post. It has absolutely nothing to do with individual design elements. It has everything to do with aesthetics.
Unfortunately the Evo lte has been widely regarded as ugly. Some have used hideous. The buying masses want cool. They want to spend their $200 on a device their friends will find attractive. They couldn't care less how cleverly the aluminum was machined to create the silver surround of the device. If the customer picks it up and says, "That's ugly!" no amount of design awards and certificates of extraordinary build quality are gonna make him pull out his wallet.
If it walks like a duck...

HTC's announcement that they're removing their focus from the U. S. market speaks volumes. Seems like not many folks have opened their wallets.

thats because his post wasnt referring to your original post, if you actually followed your own thread youd see it was pointed towards the post of the person who decided to be a little baby and cry over the design of the phone.
 

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this adds to my comment above, like i said prior no one forced that guy to buy the phone, if he didnt like the design and thought it was ugly which its not, and decvided to go ahead and buy the phone anyways without researching it prior, then its his own damn fault that hes unhappy for not doing his homework. cry me a river
 
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You said a lot of pretty stuff yet you totally missed the point of my post. It has absolutely nothing to do with individual design elements. It has everything to do with aesthetics.
Unfortunately the Evo lte has been widely regarded as ugly. Some have used hideous. The buying masses want cool. They want to spend their $200 on a device their friends will find attractive. They couldn't care less how cleverly the aluminum was machined to create the silver surround of the device. If the customer picks it up and says, "That's ugly!" no amount of design awards and certificates of extraordinary build quality are gonna make him pull out his wallet.
If it walks like a duck...

HTC's announcement that they're removing their focus from the U. S. market speaks volumes. Seems like not many folks have opened their wallets.

I said exactly what needed to be said, no more and no less. I gave my professional opinion on the design of a phone that you claimed was bad. You just had a guy who does design for a living review nearly every aspect of the EVO and you come back with it being "widely regarded as ugly" as if saying so makes it so. It remains the opinion of a few ignorant people who generally don't know what they are talking about.

I get it. You think it is ugly, and it is your right to think so. There is no accounting for taste. But I have yet to find anyone out here in the real world who isn't impressed by everything about this phone, including how it looks. It has a serious wow quotient.

Do you really buy your phone based on what your friends think? Again, that is your right, but maybe you should find more qualified friends. Especially if you also get dating advice from them. That could be really bad for you. Just sayin'... :cool:
 

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You said a lot of pretty stuff yet you totally missed the point of my post. It has absolutely nothing to do with individual design elements. It has everything to do with aesthetics.
Unfortunately the Evo lte has been widely regarded as ugly. Some have used hideous. The buying masses want cool. They want to spend their $200 on a device their friends will find attractive. They couldn't care less how cleverly the aluminum was machined to create the silver surround of the device. If the customer picks it up and says, "That's ugly!" no amount of design awards and certificates of extraordinary build quality are gonna make him pull out his wallet.
If it walks like a duck...

HTC's announcement that they're removing their focus from the U. S. market speaks volumes. Seems like not many folks have opened their wallets.
If this phone was on AT&T and Verizon, then it would be a different story.
 

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