Clockword recovery with 2.02 hboot

**Jerzyiroc** · 12-23-2010, 06:43 PM

Ok... so I got my replacement today and of course just as I feared it's got the 2.02 hboot. Which means I'm gonna have to use unrevoked forever. NOT happy about that at ALLLLL... To make it worse I just read that you can't use Clockwork Recovery with the root method for the 2.02 hboot?! THIS SUCKS! Has this changed at all? Anyone know of a way? Not happy at all right now...

**DroidXcon** · 12-23-2010, 06:47 PM

Will it make you feel better if i start a , you know you're from jersey when: for example,, when you remember what it was like running down seaside hights beach without catching hep C

**Jerzyiroc** · 12-23-2010, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by droidxcon

will it make you feel better if i start a , you know you're from jersey when: For example,, when you remember what it was like running down seaside hights beach without catching hep c

hahaha!!

**2CupsWithString** · 12-23-2010, 06:54 PM

I've been testing this today and was able to use clockwork on hboot2.10 though it is my recommendation to downgrade your hboot, yes you will have to use unrevoked.

**igotsanevo4g** · 12-23-2010, 06:58 PM

Yeah, once you go to the ENG hboot, im pretty sure clockwork will work for you.

**Jerzyiroc** · 12-23-2010, 07:07 PM

Awesome. Once I get this damn thing rooted I'll be asking for help on how to do that. Thanks guys!

**2CupsWithString** · 12-23-2010, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by Jerzyiroc

Awesome. Once I get this damn thing rooted I'll be asking for help on how to do that. Thanks guys!

No problem at all.

Unrevoked forever doesn't seem that bad really, lol especially now that it's needed.

**Jerzyiroc** · 12-23-2010, 07:13 PM

Ok... so quick question, unless I'm reading this wrong... I can't use custom kernels???

**igotsanevo4g** · 12-23-2010, 07:19 PM

No you can, as long as youre not 0004 hardware.

Id get the ENG hboot then mess with kernels just in case.

**2CupsWithString** · 12-23-2010, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by Jerzyiroc

Ok... so quick question, unless I'm reading this wrong... I can't use custom kernels???

You can - what it looks like, and I say that because there's a lot of "speculative" threads and then threads with details and then tested things, it's hard to sort out really. What it looks like is EVOs with 2.02+ hboots have slightly different sized recovery and boot partitions, so the boot would effect some kernels. It's probably why after downgrading to hboot .76, you can't load a rom without re-installing it through recovery. (edit: this is what I tested today, on 003 hardware my partitions did in fact change with the installation of hboot 2.10) So it really depends on the kernel and if it will fit in to boot.

If I were you, I would root with this:

Then once you're up and rooted, I would downgrade my hboot to .76 or .97 or something more friendly, install clockwork if that's your favorite right after that via a PC36IMG.zip file then I'd boot right to recovery, erase all user data, format boot, system, cache, sd-ext, data, dalvik and then I'd install whatever rom you wanted to.

**Jerzyiroc** · 12-23-2010, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by thefredelement

You can - what it looks like, and I say that because there's a lot of "speculative" threads and then threads with details and then tested things, it's hard to sort out really. What it looks like is EVOs with 2.02+ hboots have slightly different sized recovery and boot partitions, so the boot would effect some kernels. It's probably why after downgrading to hboot .76, you can't load a rom without re-installing it through recovery. (edit: this is what I tested today, on 003 hardware my partitions did in fact change with the installation of hboot 2.10) So it really depends on the kernel and if it will fit in to boot.

If I were you, I would root with this:

Then once you're up and rooted, I would downgrade my hboot to .76 or .97 or something more friendly, install clockwork if that's your favorite right after that via a PC36IMG.zip file then I'd boot right to recovery, erase all user data, format boot, system, cache, sd-ext, data, dalvik and then I'd install whatever rom you wanted to.

Can't use it even if i wanted to.... I'm running Ubuntu :\ Also... I may be nuts but I'd rather do it the long way through ABD so I can learnt his method just in case i have to do it again in the future or help someone out

**igotsanevo4g** · 12-23-2010, 07:47 PM

If im not wrong, you can resize the partitions if need be.
I forget where i saw it but it should be possible.

**2CupsWithString** · 12-23-2010, 07:55 PM

Alright, then I'd do this:

Then once you have S-OFF:

(I'm ready to throw out the 003/004 disclaimer on that after testing today but if you're 004 it's something to keep in mind I guess, but if you're 003 then no sweat, that's what I have)

Then hook up with the clockworkmod recovery file: (that's at koush's site, i renamed it recovery.img to make life easier when I downloaded it)

fastboot flash recovery recovery.img

then format everything in recovery.

it's a shame htc locked their hboot like this, I mean, we at least used to have rooting choices ya know.

**scrubcst** · 12-23-2010, 11:39 PM

i bought a newer one and gave my old one to my wife and this new 0004 and 2.02 is a pain to deal with, you will have to be cautious when flashing. Some Roms will fail and will require you to erase all data, or factory reset, I keep a pc36img in at all times JUST in case something happenes, and also, nand restore doesnt always work, which is a horrible let down.

EdiT: Im currently running MYN and had a success (once) of running Cyanogen 6.1.1 so there is that, but once you get a rom try to stick with it for a while, you dont have the liberty of flashing like crazy like you can on the older versions.

**Dave Blake** · 12-24-2010, 06:54 AM

Wow what a pain in the *** I'm just going to stay away from Clockworks recovery for a while till this gets sorted out. I had my EVO locked up for about an hour the other day after messing arguing with ROM manager.

Sucks,
Dave

**2CupsWithString** · 12-24-2010, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by denis_c

i bought a newer one and gave my old one to my wife and this new 0004 and 2.02 is a pain to deal with, you will have to be cautious when flashing. Some Roms will fail and will require you to erase all data, or factory reset, I keep a pc36img in at all times JUST in case something happenes, and also, nand restore doesnt always work, which is a horrible let down.

EdiT: Im currently running MYN and had a success (once) of running Cyanogen 6.1.1 so there is that, but once you get a rom try to stick with it for a while, you dont have the liberty of flashing like crazy like you can on the older versions.

Originally Posted by Big D5

Wow what a pain in the *** I'm just going to stay away from Clockworks recovery for a while till this gets sorted out. I had my EVO locked up for about an hour the other day after messing arguing with ROM manager.

Sucks,
Dave

It really isn't clockwork as much as it's the hboot, if you stick with a newer hboot and want to use clockwork that's fine, just make sure to wipe boot also.

**2CupsWithString** · 12-24-2010, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by denis_c

i bought a newer one and gave my old one to my wife and this new 0004 and 2.02 is a pain to deal with, you will have to be cautious when flashing. Some Roms will fail and will require you to erase all data, or factory reset, I keep a pc36img in at all times JUST in case something happenes, and also, nand restore doesnt always work, which is a horrible let down.

EdiT: Im currently running MYN and had a success (once) of running Cyanogen 6.1.1 so there is that, but once you get a rom try to stick with it for a while, you dont have the liberty of flashing like crazy like you can on the older versions.

Just out of curiosity - have you tried to downgrade your hboot?

**Jerzyiroc** · 12-24-2010, 07:18 PM

Well... I forgot that my girlfriends computer has Windows... SOOO I'm gonna use that automated one. Don't have the patience anymore. I've been stock since Sunday and I can't take it anymore lol... I just wanna root again damn it! hope it works..

**Jerzyiroc** · 12-24-2010, 10:03 PM

Update: Worked perfect! Only took about 15 minutes and everything worked perfect. I'm not gonna do the downgrade of the hboot tonight, I'll do it tomorrow probably. In the meantime I'd like to flash Vaeleks latest beta. I read that for newer hboots I have to flash "newkernel.zip" after flashing a ROM. Few questions.. One.. I can't find that actual file anywhere. Two, do I have to do that EVERY time I flash a ROM? Three, is it safe to flash kernels now with that root method? Four, when I downgrade the hboot, would the 3 previous questions not matter anymore?

Update2: Ok... so apparently the newkernel.zip is actually just the htckernel#17. So I'm good with that.. Only question now ties into my question previously asked... can I use custom kernels? Or am I stuck with the stock #17? Or I have to flash the ROM, flash that kernel, boot up... then flash the custom kernel?

Update3: Well I've flashed a bunch of custom kernels and so far no problems. Looks like my Evo is even more o/c friendly than my first Evo Either way, things going great so far. Definitely plan on downgrading the hboot tho..

**2CupsWithString** · 12-25-2010, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by Jerzyiroc

Update: Worked perfect! Only took about 15 minutes and everything worked perfect. I'm not gonna do the downgrade of the hboot tonight, I'll do it tomorrow probably. In the meantime I'd like to flash Vaeleks latest beta. I read that for newer hboots I have to flash "newkernel.zip" after flashing a ROM. Few questions.. One.. I can't find that actual file anywhere. Two, do I have to do that EVERY time I flash a ROM? Three, is it safe to flash kernels now with that root method? Four, when I downgrade the hboot, would the 3 previous questions not matter anymore?

Update2: Ok... so apparently the newkernel.zip is actually just the htckernel#17. So I'm good with that.. Only question now ties into my question previously asked... can I use custom kernels? Or am I stuck with the stock #17? Or I have to flash the ROM, flash that kernel, boot up... then flash the custom kernel?

Update3: Well I've flashed a bunch of custom kernels and so far no problems. Looks like my Evo is even more o/c friendly than my first Evo Either way, things going great so far. Definitely plan on downgrading the hboot tho..

This is all for EVOs with hardware version 004, if you don't use the latest kernel your camera won't work. I know most of the popular ROMs based on Sense are already updated so it shouldn't be much of a problem. You may run in to issues if you boot with up CM6.x though I'm not sure how generic his driver is.

**prittyboy203** · 12-26-2010, 02:30 PM

Hey thefredelement I know this is of topic maybe you could point me the the right direction cuz you just stated the if I have a Rom which is sense but I flash a custom kernel I think it was stated on freshs Rom here comes the better battery is back but I just flashed the sbc/battery trickle kernel and i tried my camera and it gets stuck at a black screen where and how would I be able to fix this sorry guys couldn't find a mixed thread on what I have done and you just said exactly what I was wondering about with flashing kernels and the camera won't work thanks for anyones assistance on this

**2CupsWithString** · 12-26-2010, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by prittyboy203

Hey thefredelement I know this is of topic maybe you could point me the the right direction cuz you just stated the if I have a Rom which is sense but I flash a custom kernel I think it was stated on freshs Rom here comes the better battery is back but I just flashed the sbc/battery trickle kernel and i tried my camera and it gets stuck at a black screen where and how would I be able to fix this sorry guys couldn't find a mixed thread on what I have done and you just said exactly what I was wondering about with flashing kernels and the camera won't work thanks for anyones assistance on this

If you're on new hardware 004 with a new camera you need a kernel from the HTC/Sprint 3.7 hardware.

**prittyboy203** · 12-26-2010, 09:26 PM

Thanks for that I'm pretty sure my phone is brand new but before I started putting any kernels on my phone my pri number ended with 003 and it still dose so dose this mean I can't use clockwork and can't flash independent kernels cuz of my phone being hboot 2.02 s-off rooted of course and once I start flashing different kernels then my camera won't work because there made for older phones and I would have to only have HTC kernel or the camera don't work?