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    So, as I have described in a previous thread, I have an Exchange (work) and a Gmail (personal) email account. As I have recently realized, the Gmail app only supports Gmail accounts, and the Mail app doesn't support Gmail push. That means I'm having to rely on two apps to handle my email needs: Mail for my Exchange emails and Gmail app for my Gmail emails.

    Is there any solution that handles both types of emails as push (as they arrive)?

    I believe K9mail does not support push Exchange accounts.
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    Please don't me there isn't one. I think it's sad that we have to rely on two programs to get push to different kinds of accounts.
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    I guess what it comes down to is weather or not you need the emails immediately as they come in, or if you can wait every 15 minutes (or whatever interval you have set) for it to poll the server and see if you have any new mail. This goes for both gmail and exchange. Do benefit analysis and see whether or not one unified mailbox is worth the 15 minute wait. If it is, then its a no brainier.

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    But there are no apps out there that can push both, IMAP and Exchange, accounts? That's odd.

    It's not only a matter of waiting 15 minutes, but pinging the server every 15 minutes and draining the battery.
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    thats correct, but i don't think that even the built in E-mail app is push for exchange, i think it also pings the server at the specified interval. But correct me if i'm wrong.

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    The Mail app is push for Exchange but not Gmail. The Gmail app only supports Gmail (push Gmail of course).
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    If you set up your gmail account as an exchange account, you will get push notifications. just set the the server to m.google.com and the domain to gmail.com.
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    I have the exact same thing with work and my gmail account. I have things set up through an app called "Seven" and it is wonderful. It is not a truely integrated inbox like my Blackberry but it is pretty close and is AMAZING compared to the native Mail application.
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    Quote Originally Posted by riste601 View Post
    If you set up your gmail account as an exchange account, you will get push notifications. just set the the server to m.google.com and the domain to gmail.com.
    Now this is interesting. How would I set it up like Exchange though? When I click manual setup I can only select POP, APOP, or IMAP. Tried them all with server m.google.com with no success. Can you tell me what you did exactly?

    Thanks again!
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    If you want Gmail Push it's very simple. Just enable IMAP in your Gmail account. Then add another Exchange account in the Mail Application on your Evo using the Gmail Imap Server address. The Mail Application will automatically populate the correct SSL enabled ports for the IMAP enabled Gmail Servers. This works very well.

    Then you can use the Mail Application for all email accounts. I like to set up both Mail Widgets using two of my Home Screens so I can easily see my emails. You can't do that with the Gmail Application.
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    Am I missing something? I have Exchange and Gmail push using default apps on my Evo. I'm using the HTC Email app for exchange and the Gmail app for my gmail accoung, and both push immediately. I hear the new email notification before Outlook even recognizes the new email as being in my inbox.

    Yes, I use the two clients separately, but for me, I like having separate clients for my work and personal email. Point is: push works just fine.
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    You are missing something. From Post #1:

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    So, as I have described in a previous thread, I have an Exchange (work) and a Gmail (personal) email account. As I have recently realized, the Gmail app only supports Gmail accounts, and the Mail app doesn't support Gmail push. That means I'm having to rely on two apps to handle my email needs: Mail for my Exchange emails and Gmail app for my Gmail emails.

    Is there any solution that handles both types of emails as push (as they arrive)?

    I believe K9mail does not support push Exchange accounts."

    That's how I have it. But I don't want to have to rely on 2 programs to tackle the same thing in 2 different accounts. That's just dumb and no intuitive.

    BTW guys, what do you know about Seven?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wirelessness View Post
    If you want Gmail Push it's very simple. Just enable IMAP in your Gmail account. Then add another Exchange account in the Mail Application on your Evo using the Gmail Imap Server address. The Mail Application will automatically populate the correct SSL enabled ports for the IMAP enabled Gmail Servers. This works very well.

    Then you can use the Mail Application for all email accounts. I like to set up both Mail Widgets using two of my Home Screens so I can easily see my emails. You can't do that with the Gmail Application.
    How are you accomplishing this... Just like Akarol stated, when you try and add a new account (once a current exchange account is active) the only options you get are POP, APOP, and IMAP - all of which require a frequency for polling; not true push.

    How are you getting the option to add a second exchange account?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaysen View Post
    How are you accomplishing this... Just like Akarol stated, when you try and add a new account (once a current exchange account is active) the only options you get are POP, APOP, and IMAP - all of which require a frequency for polling; not true push.

    How are you getting the option to add a second exchange account?

    Yes, you use the IMAP option for setting up your Gmail Server in the Mail App. As I stated you need to enable IMAP in your Gmail Account Settings. Then just setup your Gmail account in the Mail App using IMAP. The App auto populates the server address and port numbers when you type you gmail email address and select IMAP. Gmail Servers push the mail to your device.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wirelessness View Post
    If you want Gmail Push it's very simple. Just enable IMAP in your Gmail account. Then add another Exchange account in the Mail Application on your Evo using the Gmail Imap Server address. The Mail Application will automatically populate the correct SSL enabled ports for the IMAP enabled Gmail Servers. This works very well.

    Then you can use the Mail Application for all email accounts. I like to set up both Mail Widgets using two of my Home Screens so I can easily see my emails. You can't do that with the Gmail Application.
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    Yes, you use the IMAP option for setting up your Gmail Server in the Mail App. As I stated you need to enable IMAP in your Gmail Account Settings. Then just setup your Gmail account in the Mail App using IMAP. The App auto populates the server address and port numbers when you type you gmail email address and select IMAP. Gmail Servers push the mail to your device.
    Ok I was just making certain because you contradicted yourself (not trying to argue, I promise just trying to figure out a way to use the default HTC mail app while receiving true GMAIL push)

    Based on the second way you've described, I already had GMAIL setup as IMAP while using my droid - although I did reconfirm it was setup.

    I used the IMAP incoming server address for Gmail: imap.gmail.com (and smtp.gmail.com for outgoing)

    the app autopopulates the ports like you've described however after sending a test email to the gmail account it does not push the email automatically to the EVO. I purposely setup my evo, for testing purposes, to 1 hr polling and the email never downloaded until that 1 hr elapsed. Unless I'm missing something True GMAIL push via stock HTC Mail app is not possible ?

    The closest you can get to "PUSH" is 15 minute intervals via polling
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    Quote Originally Posted by akarol View Post
    That's how I have it. But I don't want to have to rely on 2 programs to tackle the same thing in 2 different accounts. That's just dumb and no intuitive.
    Far be it for me to call someone dumb, but it is very intuitive and smart for me. For my use, I do not and cannot have personal email mixed with my work email. Even on the Pre, I preferred to use my email accounts separately and not use the "combine all" view (or whatever it was called).

    What works for you doesn't make it perfect for everyone. It just makes it perfect for you (and vice-versa). There's no need to call anyone else's method "dumb and no intuitive."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge767 View Post
    Far be it for me to call someone dumb, but it is very intuitive and smart for me. For my use, I do not and cannot have personal email mixed with my work email.
    Far be it from me to call anyone [sic] dumb, but setting up the Mail App in Android to use Exchange for your work email and IMAP for your Gmail does NOT create any kind of 'combined vew'. They are totally separate and the emails NEVER meet on the same screen or combine digitally at any point.

    You must toggle from one Inbox to the other to view each account SEPARATELY. When you are in one account you can tap the top of the Mail Application where there is a drop down menu allowing you to select your other email account(s). The mail does not mix. I like being able to use the Mail Widget on Home Screens to view each account separately without having to open the applicaiton.
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    Well, I guess what works well for you works well for you.

    I like what I'm doing, and it makes sense to me.

    One person's method doesn't invalidate another's. It merely makes it "different."

    I like being able to use the Gmail and Mail icons that show number of emails per account separately on my home screen. I also like the different icons. I appreciate your preference, but it doesn't match mine.

    I tried to gain some insight into OP's issue and hope I could help, but it's clear I cannot.

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    Edege,

    That is perfectly acceptable way of using the device and the email clients. I've done it that may and sometimes toggle between the two methods. I just wanted to be clear that enabling IMAP and using the Mail App for Gmail does NOT merge your Exchange email and the Gmail in the same Inbox in anyway that's all.
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    Ok back on topic

    Wirelessness, so after my last reply can you confirm that your gmail, using the HTC mail app, is NOT true push but rather polling...
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    I said this in your previous thread - linked here, but I'll say it again - gmail itself supports exchange, so if you set your gmail up, in the default mail program on our evo, or on k-9, or something else if you find something else, anything that supports exchange, you will get gmail push.

    here is another link to the setup instructions (for iphone, but they work fine), as someone else previously said, using m.google.com as the server is key.

    Is this not working for you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khidr View Post
    I said this in your previous thread - linked here, but I'll say it again - gmail itself supports exchange, so if you set your gmail up, in the default mail program on our evo, or on k-9, or something else if you find something else, anything that supports exchange, you will get gmail push.

    here is another link to the setup instructions (for iphone, but they work fine), as someone else previously said, using m.google.com as the server is key.

    Is this not working for you?
    I understand what you are saying but I guess my new question(s) is/are;

    1) Does the stock HTC mail app support multiple exchange accounts, I can only seem to be able to add one (My current work EAS)

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    2) If Yes to the above question, how does one setup a secondary Exchange account.
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    ^^^
    For some people this solution will not work because the current version of Android only supports ONE Exchange Active Sync account.

    Using the Gmail IMAP solution is the next best thing.

    It is my understanding that this uses a version of Push Mail technology that is specific to Google. The phone also does polling at whichever interval you select as well. This polling option is IMPOSSIBLE to disable but you can set the interval to once per day. Give it a try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wirelessness View Post
    the current version of Android only supports ONE Exchange Active Sync account.
    This is where I was trying to get at... and hoping it was NOT the answer

    Oh well, two separate applications now are fine.
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    Android actually does support multiple exchange accounts. HTC's Mail application does not (why they would remove something like that I don't understand).

    So thanks to HTC and their Sense implementation, we are stuck...
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