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    Default Uninstall Google Talk??

    I searched and didn't find anything in the Evo section on this.

    Is there anyway to uninstall google talk from the Evo?? It keeps turning on in the background and I don't need it since I have palringo...

    Any help appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaMom View Post
    I searched and didn't find anything in the Evo section on this.

    Is there anyway to uninstall google talk from the Evo?? It keeps turning on in the background and I don't need it since I have palringo...

    Any help appreciated.
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    I was afraid of that.

    I have set it not to automatically start up, but it does anyway... Any ideas on why that is happening? It is draining my battery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaMom View Post
    I have set it not to automatically start up, but it does anyway... Any ideas on why that is happening? It is draining my battery.
    It isn't draining your battery and it's necessary for the Market to work.
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    Not sure why it is necessary for the market to work, but ok.... How is it not draining my battery when it is always running? You will have to bare with me a bit as this is my first android device. I am an ex-winmo/webos user.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaMom View Post
    Not sure why it is necessary for the market to work, but ok.... How is it not draining my battery when it is always running? You will have to bare with me a bit as this is my first android device. I am an ex-winmo/webos user.
    Easy solution.. Sign out, and under settings put it to not auto start with the phone. Then it's off.. Fixed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaMom View Post
    Not sure why it is necessary for the market to work, but ok.... How is it not draining my battery when it is always running? You will have to bare with me a bit as this is my first android device. I am an ex-winmo/webos user.
    rumor: this is how your phone syncs to your google contacts. i haven't verified that though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by posguy99 View Post
    It isn't draining your battery and it's necessary for the Market to work.
    You are correct. Remove Google talk market won't work. If it is running in the background its shouldn't(key word shouldn't) drain the battery.
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    if you stop or remove GTalk you will remove PUSH Gmail.

    Gmail needs GTalk running in the background for INSTANT PUSH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gekko View Post
    if you stop or remove GTalk you will remove PUSH Gmail.

    Gmail needs GTalk running in the background for INSTANT PUSH.
    Hmmm, I have GTalk stopped and I receive my Gmail just fine.......
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    I have Gtalk stopped and set to kill in ATK but I get my G-mail with no problems
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    Quote Originally Posted by dontspamtheman View Post
    I have Gtalk stopped and set to kill in ATK but I get my G-mail with no problems
    Do you get your gmail pushed, or only when you check it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by meyerweb View Post
    Do you get your gmail pushed, or only when you check it?
    Pushed. I just tried it again now & I sent myself an email from my work computer. EVO beeped within 10 seconds of me hitting send. I also went and checked in ATK....G-talk is NOT running.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dontspamtheman View Post
    Pushed. I just tried it again now & I sent myself an email from my work computer. EVO beeped within 10 seconds of me hitting send. I also went and checked in ATK....G-talk is NOT running.
    Trust me it may be getting killed, but it's always there working in the background. There are to many things that rely on Gtalk to keep it killed for good. If anything your just wasting battery by killing and it starting back up.
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    I trust you but I have it set not to run and it is not showing anywhere as running so ATK has nothing to kill yet I do get my email so I have no issues either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaMom View Post
    How is it not draining my battery when it is always running? You will have to bare with me a bit as this is my first android device. I am an ex-winmo/webos user.
    Because Android isn't like Windows nor WebOS. Android is more like iOS.

    (Properly designed) apps don't consume any battery when they are "idle". Android uses a notification system to wake the process up as needed.

    What drains your battery (besides you using the phone) is activities like syncing. However you have control over this (Settings -> Accounts and Sync, or from within each application).

    That being said I did loosely follow the tips here:

    Tip-Trick: 61 hours, 24% battery remaining - Android Forums

    (I installed ATK but I rarely use it now, it's not necessary. The only thing I actively kill after a reboot is Sprint apps because I never use them.)

    At this point (being a former WebOs/Pre user) I would describe my battery issues as non-existent. Overnight the EVO loses nothing. I can make it through a full day no problem. The only time I charge the phone is in the car, to and from work, which is about 40 minutes each way.

    (sorry, I didn't mean to derail this into a battery tips thread)

    In short: unless you know the background app is poorly designed, don't worry about killing it. The OS is designed to work this way.
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    yeah you really have to get in the habit of letting the android OS do its thing and run what its going to run by itself. especially with a stock app like gTalk, google properly coded that app so it does NOT use any battery in the background. so simply leaving it alone will not have any effect on your battery life.
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    hi so i deleted google talk, not knowing the market wouldnt work is there anyway to fix this?
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    Look over in XDA they should have the .apk file to reinstall it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaMom View Post
    I searched and didn't find anything in the Evo section on this.

    Is there anyway to uninstall google talk from the Evo?? It keeps turning on in the background and I don't need it since I have palringo...

    Any help appreciated.
    Titanium Backup has a feature that allow you to 'freeze' apps. A frozen app does not show autostart and show up in the app drawer so from user's perspective it is gone.

    IIRC, this feature does not require root but am not 100% sure.
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    Gtalk uses C2DM. What this means is it's essentially a shell on the phone. Not using battery, and using a tiny bit of resources (RAM). This process simply sits waiting for a message to be pushed from a cloud. It does not actively poll meaning it does not use any battery.

    What will waste battery though is killing this process. Because this is an essential process for android, many features of the phone rely on it (market, gtalk, gmail). When you kill this process, it will inevitably start itself back up, again, because it's a crucial process. By constantly killing, respooling, killing, respooling you are wasting battery because it takes resources to kill something, then more resources to respool it.

    This is a process you're best suited by leaving alone. And my recommendation, remove task killer and reboot phone. If you need some assistance understanding the memory handling of Android, there are some really great resources on the web you can read. What you'll find in conclusion of all of them is android handles memory very efficiently and the whole "windows" frame of mind of kill kill kill needs to be let go.

    Thats not without saying though that a poorly designed app cant kill battery. Some examples are apps that use an improper wakelock, or an app that receives it's messages via polling. These will eat a battery quickly but the answer is, don't use that app. Find a messaging app that uses C2DM (like gtalk does). Or find an app thats doesn't have a wakelock issue, i think we all remember the facebook problem lol. That was due to a wakelock.

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    I develop Android apps and KSmithInNY is spot on.

    The best advice I can give as an Android developer with a fair understanding of the underlying processes, is to NOT use a task manager.

    Trust me on this; the gtalk process is not using any battery.
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    ive had gtalk "frozen" with titanium back up and i dont have any issues. now i unfroze it and when i hit sign out it just exits, i open it it automatically has me logged in regardless of what the settings are. and i cant change the account it logs onto and i never even used this app in any way. what gives? and for now i refroze it
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    Yeah, no...
    Google talk is poorly written software. My phone, LG Trill, turns off, when ever someone tried to send me a chat. It tries to Authenticate with my phone, then my phone dies, with a full battery. This happens every time. I don't care if I cant use the app store, now called google store. I only need my phone for texting, calling, emailing, web surfing. nothing more.

    I rooted my phone and have a firewall stopping data from connecting to the internet,cuz i only have a 200mb data plan. My phone bill is $10.00 a month, so I don't care about the app store.
    This phone only gets a 3 hour battery life, stock from store. I am going to buy a battery upgrade for the 8 hour battery, for $35.00. But hey I can view youtube in 3D, and I only had to pay $10.00 for the traid in of my broken phone {marked for recall} and they gave me any phone, so 3D b****!
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    Listen, listen, listen all!!! Remove this app and you cause the google processes to stop running. Trust me!!! Leave it alone, uninstall updates, but it is highly NOT RECOMMENDED to force stop it, as you will eventually cause your phone to slow down. Use a task killer/manager, whatever. BUT, DO NOT, REMOVE IT. Freezing isn't very wise either. Let's say you remove it. You're screwed. At least, until you flash Gapps again.
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