Getting rid of my EVO tomorrow...Detailed post on why...
Well I switched from ATT where I had two lines, an Iphone 3GS and a Blackberry Bold 9000. I used my Bold for texting and phone calls and used my Iphone to browse the web, emails and get directions, both were fully functional except I did not have internet on the Berry.
I got my EVO on launch day and fell in love with the look of it, the screen size and quality, and how awesome youtube videos and all looked on it.
Now im starting to have a love hate relationship and am 80 percent sure I will be returning this tomorrow to get a Sprint Blackberry Bold 9650.
1.) Most importantly the battery life. Its horrible. Maybe I got a defective phone, Im not sure, but its not to the extreme where I have heard stories such as I charged it 100 percent, took it off charge, watched a youtube video and it was dead...its nothing like that at all...but its bad. My Bold had an amazing battery life and I could go two days of frequent usage without charging....the Iphone was usually gone after a full days use, but problem is, I cant even get a full days use of the EVO...Im lucky to get half a days use and with moderate usage.
Last night I charged it fully, took it off the charger at 10pm, sent a few texts, went to bed, woke up in the morning to a message my battery was lower then 15 percent remaining. And yes, I had a task killer running, and I shut the screen off and locked it.
2.) Texting. Plain and simple. I cannot get used to this stock keyboard. Gave up on that and tried Swype and Shapewriter, which are awesome and helped me alot, but I still cant text without looking where im scrolling, and I am not as efficient as I am with a Blackberry. Texting and calling are the two main functions of a phone and not getting a great texting experience for me was really driving me to switch.
3.) Running hot. The phone tends to run extremely hot, when doing things such as sitting in my pocket and locked. Maybe this is the issue causing my severe battery problems??
4.) Speed. I know this thing is running a snap dragon processor, but thats what really gets me. How can this thing be so slow and laggy packing such power? loading TMZ app and scrolling through this app you will see the lag there. Also lag can be found when typing using the keyboard, opening "people" and then clicking a person also create noticeable lag. Scrolling through your pictures and videos, selecting a picture to view, and then tapping to zoom, also very laggy.
Again, I wanted this phone to be all that I ever wanted, but it has failed to be that. I am not here trying to make Android look bad and say I support another platform. Certainly there will be those who say I am simply an "Apple fanboy" or a "Blackberry fanboy" The truth is I am not. I dont care which manufacturer puts out the best phone, but whoever does, thats what phone I will get. I have no allegiance and I think thats the best way to go.
So anyways I have talked to my friend and he has ordered me a Blackberry Bold 9650 and I will be swapping this out for them.
- 06-16-2010, 10:00 PM #2
- 06-16-2010, 10:01 PM #3
- 06-16-2010, 10:03 PM #4
Of the problems you listed I can definately agree with number 4. With all the processing power this phone has for it to randomly lock up for a second or two while scrolling or opening someting is horrible. My crappy curve could scroll through pictures but the great EVO cant!
- 06-16-2010, 10:14 PM #5
- 06-16-2010, 10:14 PM #6
- 06-16-2010, 10:17 PM #7
- 26 Posts
A good task killer goes a long way for battery life. As far as running hot, that may or may not be a defect. If you have all of the stock applications running AND stuff you want running, it's possible that it'll run hot.
The keyboard... Yeah, nothing beats a solid keypad. I've made more mistakes on my screen keyboard then I ever did on my Touch Pro and even my Moment. It does take some getting used to.
It's definatly faster than the Moment I had, not to mention the other smartphones I've had. I haven't had any problems with speed. That could be a task killer thing too...
I love my Evo. I'm not a 'fanboy' but it's by far the best phone I've had thus far. Battery life is always going to suffer to some degree, but that's why was have task killers and 3rd party batteries & mods.
- 06-16-2010, 10:21 PM #8
Well, 1) I don't really understand people with smart phones that don't plug them in overnight. I just don't understand that. I've had to do that with every smartphone I've owned so it's simply expected for me.
2) Love swype, what can I say, ever since owning my first iPhone I've been far more efficient with touch keyboards than I have ever been with keyboards on phones.
3) I have no such temperature issues.
4) I don't think the phone is terribly laggy, but certainly it lags sometimes, which is to be expected. Probably when it's having to do an access to the SD card or something. I also think the Sense UI is an unnecessary hog - particularly since i don't use it and use Launcher Pro, so I really want to put a clean ROM on the EVO without it.
Given you're number 3 I'd wonder whether you have a faulty phone of some kind.
- 06-16-2010, 10:22 PM #9
There is something wrong.
1. Battery should not be that bad. Mine lasts me 10-16 hours light-moderate usage. On heavy usage, it can be gone in 4-6 hours depending on what I'm doing (usually heavy 3d gaming).
On top of that, why do you leave it unplugged overnight?
Even if you did, why not put it on airplane mode? You're not going to use it while you're sleeping I hope.
2. There are like 5 different keyboards you can try. Actually even more. On top of that, there's the voice speech to text as well.
3. Can't comment on this. I guess I don't realize it when it gets hot.
4. This I can agree with you on... It does lag during the UI when the Incredible does not. FroYo should fix this... I hope Google does something about the 30 fps cap... it's annoying.
- 06-16-2010, 10:27 PM #10
- 58 Posts
The Bold 9650 is a disgrace to the Bold line of BlackBerry phones. I used to have the original Bold, and let me tell you, the 9650 does not live up to the Bold name at all. It's just a Tour 9630 with an optical track pad, WiFi, and more RAM. I had a 9630 last year, and I hated it. You want to talk about lag on the Evo? Wait til you're using the 9650. You'll have a whole new understanding of the term 'lag'.
1) Based on what you've said, it sounds like you might want to do a hard reset. If your phone is hot in your pocket, something is draining your battery like crazy. I will admit that I'd be happier with better battery life, but it's not the worst I've seen. It's manageable. I'm 9 hours into a charge, and have 40% battery left, and this is after some pretty heavy use.
2) All I can say is, takes a while to get used to the onscreen keyboard, for sure. I'm used to it, and love it. I can almost type as quickly as I could on my BlackBerry Bold 9000 (really miss that phone).
3) I have not experienced my Evo running hot. Even under heavy use, I've never noticed it getting hot. It gets mildly warm, but, definitely not as warm as some phones I've owned before. And as for it getting hot while locked in your pocket? There's something eating up your CPU cycles. When it's locked and in your pocket, it's supposed to be in a sleep state. There's something maxing out the CPU while it's in your pocket, and it shouldn't be. What do you have running?
4) Any lag I've ever experienced on my Evo is due to poor coding, plain and simple. Has nothing to do with the Evo's horsepower. ****ty coding leads to ****ty performance. Scrolling through the app drawer, or web pages is totally fine. So why shouldn't it be able to handle scrolling in the TMZ app? I'll tell you why - poor coding.
At the end of the day though, comes down to what you want. Either way, I hope you end up with a device that you're happy with.
- 06-16-2010, 10:28 PM #11
- 06-16-2010, 10:31 PM #12
- 06-16-2010, 10:41 PM #13
- 06-16-2010, 10:51 PM #14
- 06-16-2010, 10:52 PM #15
- 06-16-2010, 10:54 PM #16
- 06-16-2010, 11:02 PM #17
- 06-16-2010, 11:08 PM #18
- 06-16-2010, 11:16 PM #19
The one main issue for you is the keyboard. other things can be fixed either w/configuration tweaks or flat out phone replacement. if you can't handle a software keyboard, sorry but you shouldn't have bought the phone. you can't fault the phone for not having something that it physically doesn't have. that was my biggest issue w/my decision from my pre. i went w/evo and can jam texts out like crazy with the stock keyboard. i'm on my evo like crazy all day, by the time i get home after 10 hours its telling me to plug it in, but i make it. my evo doesn't lag very much at all. compared to my pre its a dream.
- 06-16-2010, 11:29 PM #20
- 06-17-2010, 12:52 AM #21
- 230 Posts
Yeah, your Evo is dead in the morning, and hot in your pocket, because you are running some app that's not letting the phone sleep while the screen is off. (Why don't you let it sit on the charger at night?!)
I concur that the user shouldn't have to work so hard to squeeze out battery life, and that it's still taking me a while to adjust to the virtual keyboard. Though, there aren't any other phones I'd like to jump to at the moment. We'll see about that Samsung Galaxy S soon, I guess.
- 06-17-2010, 01:00 AM #22
It's now 10:49 pm and I just plugged in my EVO after some pretty heavy-duty use throughout the day. At one point, I was having multiple apps open, switching between making reservations for a flight in August and the calendar to make sure I had the dates right. That's after using it to listen to the music player for about 1/2 hour while eating lunch at a campground we visited this afternoon. Also did lots of Internet browsing again switching between several sites (love that Dolphin browser) and checking on scores on yet another open application (SportsTap).
That was before I turned on the 4G and the location radar and after using them forgot to turn them off for about 1/2 hour or so. That plus several phone calls, messages and emails. I had the brightness control on automatic. I'm sure I could have gotten more out of the battery had I kept is on a lower setting.
All things considered, I think the battery life is not too bad considering all the things this phone can do. Of course it could always be better, but I'm not complaining. It does help to know what you're doing and turn certain things off if you're not using them.
To the OP: See ya!
- 06-17-2010, 01:06 AM #23
- 06-17-2010, 01:56 AM #24
Sorry I took so long to respond, I appreciate all the people who actually put in legit responses, not just "ohhh my battery rockzzaaa go andoridaaaa byyyeeeee op!" not an exact quote but you get the idea.
My post was not to bash Android at all, or to bash this phone, this was to let everyone know including people considering buying the phone some issues I personally had with it. One for instance the keyboard, I hated, my girlfriend however LOVED IT. So that is a personal preference.
The battery I do believe something is wrong with my phone after reading thru all your posts saying how good your battery is. Mine was awful worst I have had on a phone.
The sluggishness is there. People dont seem to want to admit it. Well in this post some did and attributed it to coding which I agree when Froyo is released many of these sluggishness problems may be fixed.
I am no new smartphone user or technologically impaired person either. I get bored of phones easily and often try alot of different phones. Heres some I have owned over the past two years:
Blackberry Curve 8310
Blackberry Curve 8900
Blackberry Bold 9000
Nokia Xpress Music Phone 5800
Blackberry Curve 8350
Of all of them my honest opinion was the Iphone was the best. Once it can ditch ATT, look out. Again that is my personal opinion. After that my favorite would be the Curve 8900.
In any case, After reading these posts I am convinced my EVO must be faulty due to the low battery performance. But overall I still have issues with the Keyboard which again, is a personal preference thing. Also going to a Blackberry I am well aware of its Internet limitations. I LOVED using the EVO to browse the web when I still had power left, especially checking out websites and seeing flash working on some...it was amazing.
I guess after two years of swapping phones in and out, Im actually just ready to settle on having a phone and not worrying about the extra features it may or may not bring. Plus I do not think 4G is all its cracked up to be, I have used 4G as I live in Philly and I do not notice much speed increases although I typically have 1 or 2 bars max of 4G coverage.