- 04-03-2011, 08:58 PM #2Android Addict
- 1,590 Posts
- ICS / Stock
- 04-03-2011, 09:20 PM #4
- 04-03-2011, 09:33 PM #5
I kind of see the manufacturers' and carriers' point. People start monkeying around with their phones without researching or having a clue as to what they are doing and then filing claims to replace their phones, which costs us all more in the long run. I am not saying I'm perfect by any means, but I do not use a phone that I cannot afford to lose. If I were to brick a phone I would not file a claim as I have backup phones I can activate if I need to. People need to realize the seriousness of what they are doing and take responsibility for their actions. I also think that the people who abuse data have the potential to ruin it for those of us who use the hotspot in moderation or only as a backup. A lot of people will probably slam me for my opinions but the evidence speaks for itself.
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- 04-03-2011, 10:02 PM #6
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- 04-03-2011, 10:26 PM #9
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- 04-03-2011, 11:44 PM #11
been happy with my root. but i also keep the original software to revert back if i need warranty.
i'm happy with my root and no one will lose any sleep if my phone breaks.
you all gotta remember though. not all of america is as bright as the rest of america.
but then. not all of us were very bright when we got our first android. we all had to learn.
- 04-04-2011, 06:03 AM #12
No, everyone isn't a programmer and people aren't born knowing this stuff. You do have to learn. Having said that, if I had a dollar for every post on these forums that contains "bricked help" and "I got them to give me another phone, now I'm going to try again" I'd be a very wealthy girl. I'd have an even fatter wallet for all the posts where the response is, "did you read or use the search button?" Take a look in the Optimus S section of the forum. I couldn't even begin to tell you how many people have taken their phones back to Sprint and got another one because they bricked theirs. Some have done it multiple times.
The fact that the companies are cracking down shouldn't come as a shock to anyone. I don't really think it has so much to do with rooting and using your phone how you want but about costing money.
- 04-04-2011, 06:17 AM #13
- 98 Posts
I have no interest in rooting my Evo. First: I don't know how to. Second: I think it voids the warrantly/insurance, if I am not mistaken. My Evo is by far the best phone I have ever owned, even though it only has a stock ROM.
Now, I'm not trying to dissuade anyone else from doing whatever it is they want with their phones, just stating my own opinions.
- 04-04-2011, 08:40 AM #14
- 04-04-2011, 09:25 AM #15
it's actually really easy to root now. unrevoked forever is very simple. it's a program you download to teh computer. plug the phone and execute the program. it does all the work by itself.
even the dumbest of dummies can handle that procedure.
and if you download the stock software. it returns the phone to stock form. all by itself.
you really can't go wrong either way. if you can download and install a program on your computer. you most defenitly can plug your phone and do the same thing.
rooting was pretty complicated when the phones came out. but now even grandma can root her own phone. it's that simple.
- 04-04-2011, 09:30 AM #16
Ya know...rooting is a lot like modifying my car. Even though I'm clear that the mods I did would almost certainly void my warranty (as does that pesky little "racing" part), I have it exactly the way I want it. I have enough knowledge to do it and more fully enjoy it while minimizing the chances of blowing it up. (New phone= $300. New 5.4 liter supercharged motor=$15,000) It's a matter of what you want, your level of knowledge and thus your level of comfort. I rooted the crap out of my Pre but haven't done squat to my Evo and it's nearly a year old. Unusual for me. But, it's doing what I want, as-is. Now, if I could just get it to bring up my trap speeds and drop my ET........
bjSammy Galaxy S3 in the land of no LTE (Welcome to Chicago)
Prouder Photon owner since HTC and Sprint wouldn't stop my Evo from rebooting!
(Proud Evo owner since launch day.)
(Former Pre/Palm OS fanatic)
- 04-04-2011, 09:33 AM #17
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- 04-04-2011, 10:47 AM #18
Even rooting the old fashioned way is simple. The problem is that people can't/don't read and when they get stuck they want somebody to hold their hand. Whenever I root a phone or somebody asks me to root their phone I'm fully prepared to be out of $700. I'm not going to go whine to my carrier saying "It broke" when I know that I broke it. There's just no accountability and people rarely take responsibility for their actions. If they can't take responsiblity for bricking a phone, wonder what they'll do if something serious happens...
- 04-04-2011, 10:51 AM #19
- 124 Posts
While it's true that some people(an extremely small percentage of them) do brick their phones while rooting, that fact is that a lot more people break their phones because they are stupid every single day. For every one person who somehow bricks the phone rooting and flashing custom roms, there are dozens(maybe hundreds) who force Sprint to replace their phones because they:
- Took it to the bathroom peeing while drunk and dropped it in the toilet.
- Set it on the top of their car then drove off.
- Lost it.
- Dropped it
- In a cup of coffee.
- Threw it at their boyfriend
- Spilled a drink on it
- Left it sitting on a table at Olive Garden and got it ganked.
I don't ever do ANY of those things and I never will. I have a brain, I use it every time I have my phone in hand. I've never dropped it, lost it or otherwise damaged it in any way. So if I do ever somehow brick it, I will not feel bad at all for turning it back in. After all, that's a whole lot better for them than the guy who turns it in 5 times over his contract because he's a drunk. We also have to remember this guy may be full of s**t too. I don't know him, and even if I did... what some guy posts on a forum is basically worthless to me. Maybe he's making it up. Maybe he's getting paid to do so. Maybe the sources are using him to disseminate false information in order to discourage rooting. Who knows? But I, for one, am not ever going to stop rooting. And I will gladly return it to Sprint/HTC if i brick it. If they didn't lock down their phones and fill them with bloatware to begin with, or if they didn't try to force us to buy new phones every year by refusing to push new versions of Android to a phone, they wouldn't have this problem. The main reason I rooted is because I bought my Evo 3 months ago and I'll be god-damned if I'm gonna just accept that they will never update the OS on it. So I am running CM7 and Gingerbread, fcuk you very much HTC. And for the record, I don't use Wireless Tether and never have.
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- 04-04-2011, 11:21 AM #20
- 04-04-2011, 12:59 PM #21
@ OP article: Holy crap.
I've just been sitting on the sidelines waiting to root for wifi tether and the ability to update my device since HTC/Sprint doesn't want to keep me up to date for the duration of my contract. And for those who want to be judgmental about wifi tether, whatever. Get off your high horse. I'm paying for that data already (now +10 bucks). Why should i have to pay 20-30 dollars extra a month for something I need in a pinch 2 or 3 times a month? Abuse of tether is not an issue in metered plans, so get with it Sprint.
Anyway, if MFU's don't want to keep my phone updated, then I'll do it myself. But this article is pretty scary that someone can steal my phone and when i try to make a claim they can come back with "well, we know you rooted your phone, SOL". Makes Nexxus phones alot more desirable.Treo 650 > HTC Mogul > HTC Touch Diamond > BB Curve > Palm PRE- > HTC Evo / BB Bold > Nexus S 4G
- 04-04-2011, 02:52 PM #22
- 04-04-2011, 03:53 PM #23
- 124 Posts
As for it "hurting other people in the long run" so does driving your car, throwing away your trash and using electricity ... but I bet you still do all of those things. Ultimately I would be amazed if 1 out of every 1000 phones that get returned are due to rooting. It's a VERY small number of phones and it isn't effecting your bill at all. As far as wireless data tethering, same thing applies. I seriously doubt if more than 1 in 10,000 users uses it more than a few times a month. Whatever the real number may be, I know it's not high enough to effect peoples bills.
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