- 05-20-2011, 10:39 PM #2
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- 05-20-2011, 11:41 PM #5
- 88 Posts
I used it with great results. But ultimately I had to stop, because while it was going my accounts did not sync. And extra battery life is pointless if my phone isn't giving the updates I need.
I think though this won't be the case for everyone. Android and evos seem fun that way. No two devices act exactly alike. But unfortunately for me, that's the case.
- 05-21-2011, 04:55 AM #6
- 14 Posts
I must be doing something wrong. I first dowloaded the JiuceDefender Free from the marketplace. Did not see ANY difference in battery life within a week so I then uninstalled it.
I then downloaded JuiceDefender Beta and after 2 days, have seen a VERY minimal improvement. It does block some of my updates and such and I personally do not think its worth it.
I must be doing something wrong because everyone else seems to love it...lol
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Hope this helps.
- 05-23-2011, 08:49 PM #8
- 05-24-2011, 04:45 AM #9
- 05-24-2011, 06:57 AM #10
- 05-24-2011, 09:00 AM #11
It is NOT a task killer. What it manages is the connectivity of your device to network data. If you always need your device connected to the network 100% of the time (because you need constant notifications from facebook, email, etc.) then JuiceDefender is not for you.
However, in its default configuration it will turn the network on every fifteen minutes to allow apps like your mail, facebook, etc. to sync and then will turn it back off. This is perfectly fine for me. It goes by your screen lock state. If your screen unlocked is on it does nothing, but when your screen locks and no app is running using data it will turn your mobile data off.
This saves a lot of battery and has a very noticeable affect for my battery life.
The only gotcha that I see is that when you unlock your phone sometimes it can take a couple of seconds to get reconnected to the network. So, for instance, say I want to check facebook -- I unlock my phone, hit my facebook shortcut and occasionally facebook will be trying to access the network before it is fully connected so you will get an error and have to exit out and go back into facebook. To me, that is a minor inconvenience for getting quite a few more hours of life out of my battery.
I use the free version and I must say it is getting me a noticeable gain on my battery life. Obviously to each his own, and if it doesn't work for you then don't use it. But it sure doesn't hurt to try installing it and using it for a week.
- 05-24-2011, 09:13 AM #12
- 80 Posts
If ever I need to ensure I have battery life I just turn off my 3G, 4G, GPS, and wifi. I was able to still text and, by the end of my 16 hour shift, I had 50% or so battery life remaining. (I had forgotten my charger) I'd rather be in control that way than use an app to essentially do the same thing. Just my opinion. I'm sure it's good for some.
- 05-24-2011, 09:23 AM #13
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- 05-24-2011, 12:36 PM #20
last time I checked Juice Defender didn't in any shape or form attempt to kill or manage tasks on any level whatsoever.
And now you say:
"it manages your data connection"
Which is it?
I would consider your "lead-lined room" (I don't care if it's a kryptonite lined room) as a battery killer if you don't have something that manages how often your phone connects to data.
- 05-24-2011, 12:47 PM #21
Juice defender doesn't manage tasks, such as apps which is what a task killer does. It manages YOUR DATA CONNECTION, which you could argue is a "task" but task killers for all intents and purposes are defined as unnecessary memory management which is NOT what juice defender does. I
I'm not going to have an argument on why you are wrong beyond this, you just are. If you want to define Juice Defender as a Task Killer, well that's fine. But you'd be as uninformed as the people that are using Task Killers to manage their Android devices memory.
- 05-24-2011, 01:08 PM #22
Labeling it as a task killer will frighten people away from it, I just wanted everyone to know that it is not in the same boat as task killers at all. You will find hundreds of places online, and Google themselves, saying that task killers are not needed. Therefore when you say "Juice Defender = Fancy Word for Task Killer" people will think they shouldn't use Juice Defender.
While you say it is just semantics, no it is not, two totally different things.
- 05-24-2011, 04:08 PM #23
Ok, I see your labeling of it being a setting manager...I also just read several articles (just google a syntax with the words "juice defender task killer" and some others if you like) and go to the Sprint topics or Verizon ones and their engineers say it takes more power to turn ON the radios than it does just to leave them idle, not using any power. Especially if you're doing it every 15 minutes. It's the behind the scenes stuff that is saving the battery, and it involves killing (errr...managing) certain tasks. If you exit your browser using the HOME button, whatever page was loaded simply sits there in memory. When you kill the radios, Juice Defender also clears the memory, so now you have to refire the radios, and re-download the page that would have been sitting there had you not. (including email, facebook, and whatever else also) I agree completely that Facebook needs its own battery to function properly on a phone, but that is what's eating your battery...not the radios. Set Facebook not to sync up and you'll get the same effect as using Juice Defender. I've been looking at thousands of different threads about it at work today....because the boss is gone!!! Cheers!! Actually, I'm ahead at work, but it feels good to type that
Edit: Of course, for every thread that coherently explains that it's the syncing that eats the battery, there are 10 more that say "Juice defender works because my battery lasts longer using it", or something to that effect...It's the syncing though....not the radios.
Last edited by RkyMtnHigh; 05-24-2011 at 04:13 PM.
- 05-24-2011, 05:00 PM #24
- 05-24-2011, 07:05 PM #25
Give me a few...Hopefully I can track it back down, but I was using a work puter so I'll have to start from scratch here and I used a bunch of different syntax.