Just switched from the Pre

**nebj00la** · 11-17-2009, 05:05 AM

Despite thinking WebOS was going to be the best thing since sliced bread, and getting Nintendo working on the Pre... ( )

I've switched to Android. ...and I think it's freakin' awesome.

P.S. I joined the SPE forums in 2006. Too bad this forum profile isn't linked

nebj00la

**stfd1249** · 11-17-2009, 06:25 AM

were you into patching and homebrew? I'm thinking of making the switch but I'm not sure if I'm ready yet! Any input you could give me would help me out! Thanks in advance..

**Noj** · 11-17-2009, 07:31 AM

Welcome to the wonderful world of android...
root + backup + flash custom rom = good times

**nebj00la** · 11-18-2009, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by stfd1249

were you into patching and homebrew? I'm thinking of making the switch but I'm not sure if I'm ready yet! Any input you could give me would help me out! Thanks in advance..

Yeah, I'm still a channel op in #webos-internals. My nickname is nebula. Ask for help through IRC.

**swagner** · 11-19-2009, 08:17 AM

I rooted, patched, homebrewed and tethered. My Pre is now in the drawer and I have a new Hero. The Pre OS is great. Build quality, lack of apps, and battery life have me on my new Hero. I do miss the Pre interface, but SenseUI and android come close.

**lastdetailwd** · 11-19-2009, 08:53 AM

I switched from the Pre to the Hero as well. Couldn't be happier. I was on PreCentral since January, same name.

**larry313#AC** · 11-22-2009, 06:42 PM

I was on precentral too... Webos is/was great but the hardware of the Pre is junk. I went threw 12 phones before I finally gave up

**the_tate** · 11-22-2009, 09:56 PM

Same here - just boxed up my Pre, three Touchstones, and various other Palm toys in favor of the Hero. It may not have equivalent hardware but so far my Android experience has been 10x richer than my (second) fling with webOS.

- Tate

**lastdetailwd** · 11-22-2009, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by larry313

I was on precentral too... Webos is/was great but the hardware of the Pre is junk. I went threw 12 phones before I finally gave up

12 Pre's?! Holy crap! I went through 5. I doubt I will be going back to Palm. I was using Palm's for the past 5 years, thought the Pre was going to be great, but after 5 different hardware issues it was time to move on.

**stfd1249** · 11-22-2009, 10:18 PM

Thanks for all the input, for now I'm still with the Pre. When, not if, I make that switch, I'm leaning more toward getting the Droid. There is just too many flaws with the Pre. Web os is nice, but too many flaws with the hardware.

**qdigga** · 11-23-2009, 04:40 PM

Was on the Pre and on PreCentral as well. The Pre was ok and all and the WebOS was nice, but the Hero with the SenseUI is beautiful. No more NEEDING to Homebrew, root and jump through flaming hoops backwards while wearing gasoline drawers in an effort to change background images, ringtones or get a decent alarm clock.... really.

One misconception is that the Pre is the only phone that currently lets you multitask. Not true. While you dont flick things and apps around the screen like the pre, you can simply hold the "Home" key for a second or two and pull up a 6 program task list and just pick one of the apps to go to...

**dvillerider** · 12-26-2009, 12:19 AM

Former Pre owner...had my Hero for two days and I like it better than the Pre! Sorry Palm! Pre all hype trust me!

**li2327** · 12-26-2009, 12:38 AM

I have an eris which is similar to the hero. Awesome device. I played with my friend's pre and android seems much more user friendly.

**jlgraham** · 12-26-2009, 09:11 AM

I had a Palm Pre from July to December. I went through 5 Pres just because of hardware issues. Finally when the TOUCH SCREEN (pretty much the biggest part of the pre, including gesture area) kept going unresponsive requiring a batteey pull multiple times daily, i dropped Sprint and went to the Droid with android 2.0 actually feels like a polished and complete smartphone, not a toy. It is hands down better than the Pre. I have a feeling that if palm doesn't bring something spectacular to CES, they will tank next year. Switch to android, whatever handset you get, except maybe the G1 by dehydration would you buy that anyways, will be better than the pre and considerably better than the pixi with its almost uselessly small touchscreen. Droid does everything the pre can do plus more, faster better longer and with Verizon, in more places. No battery pulls or homebrew necessary.

**Ripjames** · 12-26-2009, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by jlgraham

I had a Palm Pre from July to December. I went through 5 Pres just because of hardware issues. Finally when the TOUCH SCREEN (pretty much the biggest part of the pre, including gesture area) kept going unresponsive requiring a batteey pull multiple times daily, i dropped Sprint and went to the Droid with android 2.0 actually feels like a polished and complete smartphone, not a toy. It is hands down better than the Pre. I have a feeling that if palm doesn't bring something spectacular to CES, they will tank next year. Switch to android, whatever handset you get, except maybe the G1 by dehydration would you buy that anyways, will be better than the pre and considerably better than the pixi with its almost uselessly small touchscreen. Droid does everything the pre can do plus more, faster better longer and with Verizon, in more places. No battery pulls or homebrew necessary.

I would hope that the droid does it better than the Pre, I mean how long as the Pre been out compared to the pre

**Pre24** · 12-26-2009, 11:02 AM

I had a Palm Pre since release date, great phone, was really hard to switch to the Hero but I really wanted to give Android a try because its the only OS I've never experienced, and I felt like I was use to webOS already(maybe I'll switch back when they really get going). I must say I love my Hero and SenseUi, just an all around great phone. I like the REAL customization they give you. I just have one question: Are there any recommended apps I should have because I don't know what to download? So many more apps compared to the Pre. Thanks!

**krc1185** · 12-26-2009, 12:10 PM

I also just switched from the Palm Pre. I thought it was awesome at first, but then it began to wear me down. Between the lack of variety in Palm's App Catalogue, to the absolutely horrendous service (both customer and reception) that is synonymous with Sprint, I just had to take my leave. I also share numerous war stories from the trenches that are the Sprint retail store. I had the phone since Halloween, and I had to have two Pre's replaced. One issue was with the failure to properly clear memory and the second Pre would not charge properly, neither through the USB or the Touchstone. And, I am not even discussing the number of new Touchstone chargers I had to get replaced because they would not work. The Pre just has too many hardware and software issues for comfort. I switched to the Droid, and could not have been happier with my decision. While WebOS is very good for what it is (a relative newcomer with many shortcomings yet to be worked out), the Android OS and Droid just offer a far superior user experience that simply cannot be overcome by neither Sprint nor Palm.

**j.howe3887** · 12-26-2009, 12:33 PM

hey guys... just want to start off by saying that Im not trying to hack your thread at all

. I originally had a Pre since launch, and just recently got a new hero off ebay. I used the Hero for about 4 days and got so frustrated with it. It was constantly lagging, I couldnt play any games because of this. When people would call me the phone would almost freeze up and would not let me answer a phone call. I tried Taskillers and tried not using taskillers. I have read ever forum on the subject. I just feel like i was able to do so much more so much faster on my pre. Now, I still have my hero (which is on ebay) and Im back with the Pre.....can you guys convince me to go back to the Hero?...the auction ends in 4.5 days.....

Thanks Guys!

**unixpsycho** · 12-26-2009, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by j.howe3887

hey guys... just want to start off by saying that Im not trying to hack your thread at all

. I originally had a Pre since launch, and just recently got a new hero off ebay. I used the Hero for about 4 days and got so frustrated with it. It was constantly lagging, I couldnt play any games because of this. When people would call me the phone would almost freeze up and would not let me answer a phone call. I tried Taskillers and tried not using taskillers. I have read ever forum on the subject. I just feel like i was able to do so much more so much faster on my pre. Now, I still have my hero (which is on ebay) and Im back with the Pre.....can you guys convince me to go back to the Hero?...the auction ends in 4.5 days.....

Thanks Guys!

Like the Pre has many games to choose from?!

Signal strength on the Hero is better than the Pre. But the Pre IMO is faster overall. (let the flames begin :rolleyes: ).

**sjcea** · 12-26-2009, 06:01 PM

My former Palm Pre is now out of service and just sitting in the box , it was only my 2nd Pre but when the Hero came out I could not resist , and I am so glad I didnt. The Hero is far superior to the pre , I will never go back to Palm . Thanks HTC . looking forward to new and exciting Android devices real soon

**ardoreal** · 12-26-2009, 09:03 PM

Its so funny you guys are talking hardware issues. I ditched the Pre a while back because of the build quality as well. Until Palm blew it on the janky hardware I was convinced that WebOS was the future. Now I'm wondering if Palm's gonna make it.

**lolthisismyname** · 12-26-2009, 09:41 PM

I switched from a Pre to a Droid because of a few issues:
1) Palm totally dropped the ball on quality control for the Pre.
2) Palm cut too many corners on the Pre, especially given the price they were charging for it initially.
3) Sprint customer service and reception issues.

I miss WebOS's interface (IMO it's the best mobile phone interface I've ever seen) but I don't miss anything else. I love my Droid and the only thing about the Pre that I miss was the speed of the camera.

I really hope Palm steps up their game because the smartphone market needs more competition and Palm had always been a solid choice up until the Pre. Even my cheap little Centro was awesome.

**scottf0624** · 12-26-2009, 10:03 PM

My take on the Pre vs. Hero.

First the hardware seems to be much better with the Hero, I only went through 3 Hero's, looking at others 5 and 12, wow...

My complaint with the Hero is ringing, the person on the phone can hear 2-4 rings before my hero will ring, should I say if my Hero rings, i miss a lot of calls with this. I got it swapped once, thinking it may have been my phone, but new phone does the the same thing.

2nd issue with the Hero, Mobile Data stops connecting, Last week had to Hard Reset my phone and spend 1 1/2 hours on phone with sprint to finally figure out the issue, well this week it happened again, I was told by the sprint tech support rep that my phone would need to be hard reset, and i refused to do it. It takes way to long to get the phone setup, programs installed and configured to have to hard reset it once, let alone weekly, I told her apparently it's an issue with my device, if it's not a common problem with Hero's, then it has to be the device, ship me a new one...It'll be here Monday.

The main drawback on the Pre was the lack of apps, I do like the fact that Palm was on top of the updates for the Pre. At first it was like getting a new phone with each update, wondering what new features they were going to come out with...

I have recently sold my Pre, so now I'm stuck with the Hero, if things don't change soon with it, I may leave Sprint and head over to one of the other crappy american cell phone carriers...

**unixpsycho** · 12-26-2009, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by scottf0624

My take on the Pre vs. Hero.

First the hardware seems to be much better with the Hero, I only went through 3 Hero's, looking at others 5 and 12, wow...

My complaint with the Hero is ringing, the person on the phone can hear 2-4 rings before my hero will ring, should I say if my Hero rings, i miss a lot of calls with this. I got it swapped once, thinking it may have been my phone, but new phone does the the same thing.

2nd issue with the Hero, Mobile Data stops connecting, Last week had to Hard Reset my phone and spend 1 1/2 hours on phone with sprint to finally figure out the issue, well this week it happened again, I was told by the sprint tech support rep that my phone would need to be hard reset, and i refused to do it. It takes way to long to get the phone setup, programs installed and configured to have to hard reset it once, let alone weekly, I told her apparently it's an issue with my device, if it's not a common problem with Hero's, then it has to be the device, ship me a new one...It'll be here Monday.

The main drawback on the Pre was the lack of apps, I do like the fact that Palm was on top of the updates for the Pre. At first it was like getting a new phone with each update, wondering what new features they were going to come out with...

I have recently sold my Pre, so now I'm stuck with the Hero, if things don't change soon with it, I may leave Sprint and head over to one of the other crappy american cell phone carriers...

The ring problem can be fixed with changing the SCI (Slot Cycle Index) to 1 instead of 2. Enter ##DATA#, choose Edit, and enter MSL.

Might drain a little more battery tho.

**Ny88RiCaN** · 12-27-2009, 02:27 PM

I am a current pre owner right now and when my contract is up or I have some extra cash I think I will definitely be taking the plunge and going into the Hero or newer Android Device. I wish something like the Nexus One was on Sprint but I guess we can only use what we are given..

I'm on my 3rd Pre and the Updates are great and all but the functionality isn't there right now to really call it a phone. I get memory leaks all the time and have to reset my phone at least once a day, the build quality is horribad, and the overall build design isn't my cup of tea. I'm a huge fan of webOS but it just isn't with the right phone right now.

Hopefully somehow I can find a cheap deal or others who have had their pre's exchanged for a hero at the sprint store... can you elaborate what that was like? Did you have to pay a deductible or something? How did you go about approaching the sprint reps to change your device.