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    As some of you know I've been working with HTC on some of the issues we've seen with the CDMA Hero.

    If you're running any type of Task Manager/Killer it is highly recommended that you delete the program and allow Hero to manage the memory as its designed to do.

    After almost a week sans Task Manager/Killer here is what we've found so far.

    • The applications that automatically open themselves, no longer do so.
    • My internal memory has increased from 83mb to a solid 105mb. With a Task Manager/Killer my memory would drop to below 40 on occasion.
    • All lags are gone, phone is faster than ever.
    • The weather disappearing from the clock/weather widget has stopped happening.
    • The alarm now works without fail.


    Once you delete the program, reboot your phone. If you want to do a comparison of your own, look at your internal memory before and after removal, watch it for a few days. Unless you have a ton of 3rd party applications installed you should see an increase in your available memory.
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    And this is without any form of downloadable update from Sprint/HTC?
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    Ok, I just followed your lead and got rid of my task killer app. My internal storage only humped up a couple mb, so not sure what's up with that. Also, what effect have you noticed on battery life?
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    @prot0type - running the Hero the way it came out of the box with handcent and a few other 3rd party apps.

    @gm46 - longest I have gone with moderate use is 20 hours, still with half the battery left.
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    Wow, that's impressive. I usually get about 10 with what I would call moderate use. I thought I'd followed all the battery saving steps. I'll have to go back and reread those posts.
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    Are we able to keep one installed just in case an app freezes and we want to force close it? If we turn off the "auto end/kill" features of the task manager/killer apps, we should be fine right?
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    Thanks for the tips man! Seems like HTCs custumizations have not been as "kind" to Android as we would have liked.
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    I don't recommend keeping one installed. That's totally up to you.

    All I can give you is my experience, I don't leave GPS, BlueTooth or WiFi running, I only turn them on as needed. I haven't had any problems with applications starting up on their own since getting rid of the task manager I was using.
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    So how do I check internal memory? I cant seem to find it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unixpsycho View Post
    So how do I check internal memory? I cant seem to find it.
    I also would like to know
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    Menu, settings, sd card & phone storage
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    Quote Originally Posted by ERDude View Post
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    Once you delete the program, reboot your phone. If you want to do a comparison of your own, look at your internal memory before and after removal, watch it for a few days. Unless you have a ton of 3rd party applications installed you should see an increase in your available memory.
    What do you exactly mean by ton of 3rd party apps? I have like 15-20 downloaded from the Market. But then again, isnt one of the biggest things about the Hero its ability to access the Market? So if you're saying to keep away from the Market to keep your phone fast, isn't that like buying a super duper race car and saying not to drive fast with it or else it'll break? You pay for the race car because you wonna drive fast, just like people buy the Hero because you wonna download apps from the Market. Just a thought.
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    15-20 apps shouldn't bring your memory down to 49mb. I have about 15 or so and I'm running consistently at 103mb.
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    So my only task manager was Task Panel X. And by checking before and after, I'm assuming you mean the available space in the "Internal Phone Storage"? If so, mine read 124MB before I uninstalled Task Panel X, and after uninstalling and rebooting, it still reads 124MB. Should I just keep using my phone without any task managers for a few days and evaluate the lag after that? Because I was getting a lot of lag issues before.
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    Yes, for me and a few others lag has completely gone away.
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    So, just to make sure I'm doing this correctly, I want to tell you the exact steps I took. I uninstalled Task Panel X (my only task manager) and rebooted my phone. Then I opened all of the following apps as soon as phone rebooted:
    Handcent SMS
    People
    Mail
    Phone
    Facebook
    Because I know that these 5 apps I will constantly be going to have running throughout my days. I played around with the phone in this state for a couple of minutes and did still see a bit of sluggishness.

    These are the Market apps I have installed on my Hero (not quite 15-20, my bad):
    Handcent SMS
    Quick Install (very basic app uninstaller)
    Abduction (game)
    Flixter Movies
    Barcode Scanner
    Sticky Memo Widget
    OI Shopping List
    Quick Dictionary
    Labyrinth Lite (game)
    Batter Status - free
    Facebook
    Wapedia (wikipedia app)

    Again, I just wanted for you to confirm that I did this correctly? And just wonna say thanks for helping me out as well
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    You did it all. Just remember that keeping those 5 apps open are going to be pulling from the system resources. I don't recommend keeping them open if you're not using them. All of them will perform when needed whether you keep them open or not.

    This is probably what's causing your lag. I also only turn on GPS, BT & WiFi when I need them.
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    I use TasKiller, and Loopt would ALWAYS come up on its own without me using it, so i'd have to kill it. So how would I find out what programs are running or have opened themselves without a task manager?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ERDude View Post
    You did it all. Just remember that keeping those 5 apps open are going to be pulling from the system resources. I don't recommend keeping them open if you're not using them. All of them will perform when needed whether you keep them open or not.

    This is probably what's causing your lag. I also only turn on GPS, BT & WiFi when I need them.
    lol are you serious. Having 5 apps open will cause lag? And they call the Hero a multitasker...
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    I also just uninstalled the taskiller from my sprint hero. I dont understand why my awake time is 100%. Ive been reading the site for a few days and hope that my new phone purchase wasnt a bad one. Im coming from a mogul. Hopefully ill get this battery issue straight soon.
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    lol are you serious. Having 5 apps open will cause lag? And they call the Hero a multitasker...
    It doesn't for me. I frequently have 6 or more open. I'm not sure what some folks are doing to get all this lag, because I've never had a single problem with it. But I'm not trying to manage my apps with a task killer either.
    Palm Pilot > Palm V > Palm Tungsten T > Palm Treo 650 > Palm Centro > Palm Pre > HTC Hero > Palm Pre > iPhone 4 > LG Quantum > Nokia Lumia 920
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    Quote Originally Posted by 450rutmaker View Post
    I also just uninstalled the taskiller from my sprint hero. I dont understand why my awake time is 100%. Ive been reading the site for a few days and hope that my new phone purchase wasnt a bad one. Im coming from a mogul. Hopefully ill get this battery issue straight soon.
    Have you read the threads about the SMS app bug? If not, that could be your problem.
    Palm Pilot > Palm V > Palm Tungsten T > Palm Treo 650 > Palm Centro > Palm Pre > HTC Hero > Palm Pre > iPhone 4 > LG Quantum > Nokia Lumia 920
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    Quote Originally Posted by ERDude View Post
    You did it all. Just remember that keeping those 5 apps open are going to be pulling from the system resources. I don't recommend keeping them open if you're not using them. All of them will perform when needed whether you keep them open or not.

    This is probably what's causing your lag. I also only turn on GPS, BT & WiFi when I need them.
    So this seems like it would be a stupid question but, how are you closing the programs without some kind of tastkiller app?
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    Ok after taking off taskiller I am seeing a gain in speed not much in the memory though but I do have copilot so I am guessing that might hold up a chunk. BTW I am using handset sms so I will see what happens in a week

    First Android phone loveing it but I can't install to the a sd card without unlocking
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    I've noticed that some battery widgets will keep the phone awake the whole time. I found this with vizBattery. I did the battery fix and everything went to sleep as supposed to, and then I started installing one program at a time and checking it. Once I installed vizBattery and put the widget on one of my screens, my hero refused to sleep.
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