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    Default The new HTC One (M8) vs the Galaxy S5 - HTC on the way out?

    Hey guys,

    So I was looking at a comparison between the new HTC One and the Galaxy S5. They've got a mockup I guess and all the rumoured specs - here's the link.

    Screenshot from the site above:
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    They list 10 reasons for the One and 15 for the S5. To me they seem evenly matched. Personally I would rather have the better camera and the better materials/build quality of the HTC One, without a doubt! But I'm a bit disappointed in a way.. I think considering Samsung's marketing budget HTC really had to do something impressive with their new flagship to compensate, but it just seems like a minor update, not that it's a bad update at all. But I think maybe not enough.

    What do you guys think? Does that comparison seem accurate to you? Do you think HTC is on the way out? I hope not, they are my favourite OEM. The Hero was my first device and I've always had a soft spot for them since then!

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    I'd say you really need to go through that list though. First of all they seem to be user submitted.

    On the S5's side there is one listed as "Dust and water resistant" then further down the list is "weather sealed". Those are the exact same thing. Plus one of the things is screen size. 5.1" to 5"? pointless comparison, they should be comparing screen quality not size.

    The HTC One specs are not 100% confirmed yet so doing any comparison before the HTC One is officially announced is pointless. And i don't think this one comparison means HTC is on their way out at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaVictor87 View Post
    I'd say you really need to go through that list though. First of all they seem to be user submitted.

    On the S5's side there is one listed as "Dust and water resistant" then further down the list is "weather sealed". Those are the exact same thing. Plus one of the things is screen size. 5.1" to 5"? pointless comparison, they should be comparing screen quality not size.

    The HTC One specs are not 100% confirmed yet so doing any comparison before the HTC One is officially announced is pointless. And i don't think this one comparison means HTC is on their way out at all.
    Agreed. That list is ridiculous, to say the least. I would be surprised if they were not user-submitted.

    Ignoring the fact that the 2014 HTC One's specs are not officially confirmed by the company, the list is outdated when you look at the more recent leaks.
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    Don't be disappointed with one or the other until you've tried them out in person. A lot of these lists are just for generating web traffic. I for one will do my best to hold off until my local ATT has both to demo.
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    I am sorry but that list is WORTHLESS for both the HTC One and the S4. You can't have a comparison until you have something to compare and the HTC One has not been announced yet.
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    Yeah I was gonna say, they are just listing features of each phone, not really a true comparison
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    OP this link is absolute trash. 441ppi vs 432ppi? Seriously? The front camera alone is totally off. Expect a 5 MP front camera for the M8.

    It's normal to compare both phones now but I would wait until the M8 keynote to make a decision.

    You brought up the camera. If HTC continues with a 4 MP main shooter it will most likely have the same issue it had last year which is poor results for cropping or blowing up photos. You need to determine if that is important to you.

    Personally I prefer the M8 because of BoomSound but you may not care about the speaker on a phone.

    I do think HTC will be around 2 years from now. By then you'll probably want a new phone.
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    Default Re: The new HTC One vs the Galaxy S5 - HTC on the way out?

    The OP simply posted a link to generate a conversation not an attack (IMO). So based on the conversation and that the site the OP used its is not the best comparison and many of those Pro's/Con's are subjective at best. .1" difference .1MP difference. Now as to the point of higher build quality and camera being an HTC advantage that is again subjective. I don't see the plastic phones as poor quality and I certainly didn't see last years HTC One as a great camera, quite the opposite and I had owned one.

    I am still open about both phones and can cancel my accessories that are on pre-order anytime. But I don't see my getting the HTC One, I just don't like sealed batteries. I know whatever phone I get will be traded in by fall to get the next hot phone and again next spring for that hot phone. Simply trading every 6 months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blair.harrington View Post
    OP this link is absolute trash. 441ppi vs 432ppi? Seriously? The front camera alone is totally off. Expect a 5 MP front camera for the M8.

    It's normal to compare both phones now but I would wait until the M8 keynote to make a decision.

    You brought up the camera. If HTC continues with a 4 MP main shooter it will most likely have the same issue it had last year which is poor results for cropping or blowing up photos. You need to determine if that is important to you.

    Personally I prefer the M8 because of BoomSound but you may not care about the speaker on a phone.

    I do think HTC will be around 2 years from now. By then you'll probably want a new phone.
    If what i am reading on the dual camera is what HTC is doing then the camera should be great. the dual cam will give you 3X up to 5X optical zoom. If you have optical zoom a 4 mp camera will give you better results than a much higher mp cam. last years HTC and S4 had no optical zoom but both had 4X digital zoom. So with the HTC One M8 you can zoom in on the picture 3X before you get any lose. I like what HTC is doing. Instead of just adding more mp to the camera HTC, Corephotonics and toshiba are creating new cameras for smaller electronics to give the user a better experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by James E1 View Post
    If what i am reading on the dual camera is what HTC is doing then the camera should be great. the dual cam will give you 3X up to 5X optical zoom. If you have optical zoom a 4 mp camera will give you better results than a much higher mp cam. last years HTC and S4 had no optical zoom but both had 4X digital zoom. So with the HTC One M8 you can zoom in on the picture 3X before you get any lose. I like what HTC is doing. Instead of just adding more mp to the camera HTC, Corephotonics and toshiba are creating new cameras for smaller electronics to give the user a better experience.
    I like the idea, too. The first One took great pictures for everyday use as long as you weren't zooming in or cropping (or printing huge pics). I'm really curious as to how this will work in the GPE version, however. If we can still get some of the zooming capabilities in the GPE this will be an awesome phone on all fronts.
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    Didn't mean to sound harsh. Point is that link isn't worth clicking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James E1 View Post
    If what i am reading on the dual camera is what HTC is doing then the camera should be great. the dual cam will give you 3X up to 5X optical zoom. If you have optical zoom a 4 mp camera will give you better results than a much higher mp cam. last years HTC and S4 had no optical zoom but both had 4X digital zoom. So with the HTC One M8 you can zoom in on the picture 3X before you get any lose. I like what HTC is doing. Instead of just adding more mp to the camera HTC, Corephotonics and toshiba are creating new cameras for smaller electronics to give the user a better experience.
    Regardless this still won't let you blow up photos if desired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by James E1 View Post
    If what i am reading on the dual camera is what HTC is doing then the camera should be great. the dual cam will give you 3X up to 5X optical zoom. If you have optical zoom a 4 mp camera will give you better results than a much higher mp cam. last years HTC and S4 had no optical zoom but both had 4X digital zoom. So with the HTC One M8 you can zoom in on the picture 3X before you get any lose. I like what HTC is doing. Instead of just adding more mp to the camera HTC, Corephotonics and toshiba are creating new cameras for smaller electronics to give the user a better experience.
    I think you're confusing "optical zoom" with "lossless zoom". I doubt there be any sort of optical zoom lens on the phone itself. If they're going to use both sensors to somehow make digital zoom lossless, then I would hope that when you're not zooming at all they can combine the images to increase the total resolution to something higher than if you use just one sensor. That's something I would be interested in honestly.

    Quote Originally Posted by blair.harrington View Post
    Didn't mean to sound harsh. Point is that link isn't worth clicking.

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    Regardless this still won't let you blow up photos if desired.
    This is in reference to your previous post and this one....is cropping/zooming/blowing up pics really something a lot of people do with camera phone pics? You're not the first person to say they do this (and the other says they do it often enough to base their decision on it somewhat). I know I don't do it at all, unless it's a profile pic for a social network. If I want to take a pic that I can crop and zoom I take out my RX100ii to shoot with. It's small enough that I have it with me 99% of the time. For the times I just want a quick pic the One and N5 have both been solid for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin O'Quinn View Post
    I think you're confusing "optical zoom" with "lossless zoom". I doubt there be any sort of optical zoom lens on the phone itself. If they're going to use both sensors to somehow make digital zoom lossless, then I would hope that when you're not zooming at all they can combine the images to increase the total resolution to something higher than if you use just one sensor. That's something I would be interested in honestly.
    Some websites I have been reading state optical zoom on the Corephotonics dual cam while other sites state that the toshiba dual 5 mp cams will have an output of 13 mp image. While toshiba claims to have a non-mechanical digital focus function without mechanical structure, allowing high speed focus by calculating the depth to any objects and Corephotonics use a Magnetic Reluctance Actuators that excludes the use of permanent magnets, allows a very compact planar structure, consists of a small number of parts which can be assembled with broad manufacturing tolerances and allows faster actuation. So both systems claim high speed focus and toshiba claims 13 mp output while Corephotonics claim 3X and 5X optical zoom. IMO I think both systems are the future of cell phone cameras. I have no idea what system HTC is using or if they have a third option that we know nothing about but I do like what I am hearing. Here are some sites that you may like to look at:

    The Solution | Corephotonics
    Toshiba Ships Industry's First Dual Camera Module Able to Simultaneously Output Recorded Images and Depth Data
    Toshiba announces dual camera module for smartphones NEW CAMERA
    http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13970_7...phone-imaging/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin O'Quinn View Post

    This is in reference to your previous post and this one....is cropping/zooming/blowing up pics really something a lot of people do with camera phone pics? You're not the first person to say they do this (and the other says they do it often enough to base their decision on it somewhat). I know I don't do it at all, unless it's a profile pic for a social network. If I want to take a pic that I can crop and zoom I take out my RX100ii to shoot with. It's small enough that I have it with me 99% of the time. For the times I just want a quick pic the One and N5 have both been solid for me.
    It is important to me. Yes. Would it stop me from buying the M8? No. I don't carry around a great point and shoot like you do all the time. You should be able to expect more from your smartphone camera than a Facebook photo in 2014. If HTC keeps the main camera at 4 MP this issue remains and it's a valid criticism.
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    I think you may need to clarify your relationship with Versus.com.
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    You shouldn't really compare phones until they are both released. Even better, don't do it until u have them both in hand.

    And after that go with what you prefer, don't get what everyone says to get, get the one you like.

    Me personally i will probably go with Samsung. But i will wait to see the M8, before i make my final judgment.
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    While both phones look pretty nice I might wait it out to see what else comes out this year. I still love my current HTC One as it stands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ab304945 View Post
    You shouldn't really compare phones until they are both released. Even better, don't do it until u have them both in hand.

    And after that go with what you prefer, don't get what everyone says to get, get the one you like.

    Me personally i will probably go with Samsung. But i will wait to see the M8, before i make my final judgment.
    We're on the exact same boat!!

    What I'm thinking about doing is waiting till the Note 4 becomes available and then getting the M8 if its peaked my interest and trying it out for 30 days. If it doesn't suit my needs, I'll think about either the N4 or the S5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nedia_r View Post
    Hey guys,

    So I was looking at a comparison between the new HTC One and the Galaxy S5. They've got a mockup I guess and all the rumoured specs - here's the link.

    Screenshot from the site above:
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    They list 10 reasons for the One and 15 for the S5. To me they seem evenly matched. Personally I would rather have the better camera and the better materials/build quality of the HTC One, without a doubt! But I'm a bit disappointed in a way.. I think considering Samsung's marketing budget HTC really had to do something impressive with their new flagship to compensate, but it just seems like a minor update, not that it's a bad update at all. But I think maybe not enough.

    What do you guys think? Does that comparison seem accurate to you? Do you think HTC is on the way out? I hope not, they are my favourite OEM. The Hero was my first device and I've always had a soft spot for them since then!

    Nedia
    Camera is unsure yet. The one camera was no where near as good as the s4 camera except in low light which most people dont take the majority of their pics in low light. Plus ,the water resistance/proof will be a big marketing push to get many to buy the s5. Most normal consumers Dont care about "metal vs plastic" only the tech geeks get their feathers riled up for that and hence why the s4 outsold the htc one and its "better build quality"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Premium1 View Post
    Camera is unsure yet. The one camera was no where bear as good as the s4 camera except in low light which most people Dont take majority of their pics in low light. Plus the water resistance/proof will be a big marketing push to get many to buy the s5. Most normal consumers Dont care about "metal vs plastic" only the tech geeks get their feathers riled up for that and hence why the s4 outsold the htc one and its "better build quality"
    Well, to each their own, I guess...but I take that beautiful metal body out and admire it every time I use it, and I can't remember the last time I worried about my phone getting wet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nedia_r View Post
    Hey guys,

    So I was looking at a comparison between the new HTC One and the Galaxy S5. They've got a mockup I guess and all the rumoured specs - here's the link.

    Screenshot from the site above:
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    They list 10 reasons for the One and 15 for the S5. To me they seem evenly matched. Personally I would rather have the better camera and the better materials/build quality of the HTC One, without a doubt! But I'm a bit disappointed in a way.. I think considering Samsung's marketing budget HTC really had to do something impressive with their new flagship to compensate, but it just seems like a minor update, not that it's a bad update at all. But I think maybe not enough.

    What do you guys think? Does that comparison seem accurate to you? Do you think HTC is on the way out? I hope not, they are my favourite OEM. The Hero was my first device and I've always had a soft spot for them since then!

    Nedia
    The One's camera was worse than the S4, so how can you assume the M8's camera will be better than the S5...

    EDIT: Oh, you mean the "Selfie Camera?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by James E1 View Post
    If what i am reading on the dual camera is what HTC is doing then the camera should be great. the dual cam will give you 3X up to 5X optical zoom. If you have optical zoom a 4 mp camera will give you better results than a much higher mp cam. last years HTC and S4 had no optical zoom but both had 4X digital zoom. So with the HTC One M8 you can zoom in on the picture 3X before you get any lose. I like what HTC is doing. Instead of just adding more mp to the camera HTC, Corephotonics and toshiba are creating new cameras for smaller electronics to give the user a better experience.
    The full images form the M8 will still be at a huge loss for detail compared to the S5, so no they shouldn't be playing down MP. We all seen how that went down with the S4 and One.
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    Quote Originally Posted by n8ter#AC View Post
    The full images form the M8 will still be at a huge loss for detail compared to the S5, so no they shouldn't be playing down MP. We all seen how that went down with the S4 and One.
    It's not the same technology as the original ONE!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KSDroid01 View Post
    Well, to each their own, I guess...but I take that beautiful metal body out and admire it every time I use it, and I can't remember the last time I worried about my phone getting wet.

    Posted via the "Best Smartphone of 2013" One
    That's the thing, sometimes there's things called accidents that could get your phone wet. But the s5 clearly isn't aimed for everyone. I'm not getting one. I'm just pointing out how Samsung will market it. Plus as crazy as it sounds the fingerprint scanner will be another key selling point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by James E1 View Post
    It's not the same technology as the original ONE!
    That doesn't matter. If you take the exact same image with the M8 (assuming 4-5 MP Sensor) as with the S4 or S5 (13-16MP Sensor), that image will have much less pixels in it for the same scene. It's impossible to take a more detailed image, and you can end up with a much better 4MP image by simply resizing the higher MP image in a decent editing application.

    I'm not sure if it not using the same technology as the Original One matters. The S5 doesn't use the Same Technology as the S4, either, so I'm making a comparison on generations (since we can always assume the optics to get improved [even if marginally] when a flagship is upgraded - I am NOT assuming the M8's camera will be a carbon Copy of the One's).

    The only thing I use a FFC for is video calls. I rarely do that from a phone, and Samsung is the only OEM with a solution (ChatOn) that supports Video Chat @ 1080p resolution with Great Quality (Skype/Hangouts are both terrible quality by comparison, and FaceTime is only 720p and iOS device only) + HD-quality VoIP (Voice-Only Calls over Data - Hangouts only has that on iOS!).
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