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    Default Useable screen space on HTC One (M8) less than M7

    I went to Verizon to check out the M8, nice phone! Unfortunately I discovered that the useable space on the screen is less than that of the M7. The M8's on screen buttons space and the HTC One logo space underneath give the impression of a 5" or better screen but when you compare it sided by side to the M7 (which they had right next to it) the actual screen space is slightly less!!! I noticed that when browsing on the M8 the onscreen button space on the M8 does not go away and become part of the screen, it stays as dedicated button space.
    I put both phones together at the store and went to Android Central and there was no question that the M7 4.7" screen was larger than the new "suggested" 5" on the M8.
    Before you feel as if I insulted God check it out yourself......
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    Regardless it's still bigger for fullscreen apps and video, still looks even nicer, does it really matter?

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    Default Re: Useable screen space on M8 less than M7

    Either willful ignorance on your part or you don't understand what I am saying.
    Let me clarify...IT IS A SMALLER DISPLAY AREA, SO NO IT DOES NOT IMPROVE YOUR APPS OR VIDEO EXPERIENCE.
    It's USEABLE SCREEN AREA that displays your apps and video that is smaller. So yes, it matters a hell of a lot. The phone is significantly taller but has lost display area.
    Let me give you an example, a football field once had 100 yard by 50 yard dimensions with 20ft side lines. Let's say now it has a 40 yard by 90 yard playing area with a 60ft. sideline.
    Yes, it's bigger overall but you just lost playing surface....make sense now?
    Again, put the M7 and M8 together and view the same web page and come back to me about your viewing experiences being better.


    Quote Originally Posted by kronosqq View Post
    Regardless it's still bigger for fullscreen apps and video, still looks even nicer, does it really matter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kronosqq View Post
    Regardless it's still bigger for fullscreen apps and video, still looks even nicer, does it really matter?

    Sent from my EVO using AC Forums mobile app
    I agree with you. The main things I do full screen are look at PDFs occasionally and watch video. My Note 3 certainly still better than the M8 for PDFs, but I actually enjoy watching video on the M8 more. Even though the screen is smaller than my Note 3 the audio is so much better it makes it preferable to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBSeattle View Post
    Either willful ignorance on your part or you don't understand what I am saying.
    Let me clarify...IT IS A SMALLER DISPLAY AREA, SO NO IT DOES NOT IMPROVE YOUR APPS OR VIDEO EXPERIENCE.
    It's USEABLE SCREEN AREA that displays your apps and video that is smaller. So yes, it matters a hell of a lot. The phone is significantly taller but has lost display area.
    Let me give you an example, a football field once had 100 yard by 50 yard dimensions with 20ft side lines. Let's say now it has a 40 yard by 90 yard playing area with a 60ft. sideline.
    Yes, it's bigger overall but you just lost playing surface....make sense now?
    Again, put the M7 and M8 together and view the same web page and come back to me about your viewing experiences being better.
    The on screen buttons go away when you are watching video or playing games. You know that right?

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    Default Re: Useable screen space on M8 less than M7

    I understand that this is the M8 forum and many are now in possession and must defend their purchases...really I get it.
    Unfortunately to update the M7 with a version that is significantly larger with an "occasional 5" screen" but in most cases smaller than 4.7" seems like a major fail.
    I dig HTC and love my M7 but after seeing what I saw today, no thanks. Just hoping to bring something to the attention of others so there are no surprises for them.
    I didn't make the phone or make up the facts.....sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBSeattle View Post
    I understand that this is the M8 forum and many are now in possession and must defend their purchases...really I get it.
    Unfortunately to update the M7 with a version that is significantly larger with an "occasional 5" screen" but in most cases smaller than 4.7" seems like a major fail.
    I dig HTC and love my M7 but after seeing what I saw today, no thanks. Just hoping to bring something to the attention of others so there are no surprises for them.
    I didn't make the phone or make up the facts.....sorry.
    I guess we just don't understand what else one would do with the phone that the full screen mode mattered? I guess if you feel like you need 5 inches of usable space even when perusing your home screens or apps then the phone is an epic fail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jspring86 View Post
    I guess we just don't understand what else one would do with the phone that the full screen mode mattered? I guess if you feel like you need 5 inches of usable space even when perusing your home screens or apps then the phone is an epic fail.
    Yep, total loss, I guess HTC better pack up the M8 and declare bankruptcy right now. Lol

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    Yes, I appreciate the sarcasm but yes...epic fail for me.
    To have a phone close in height to a Note 3 and a 4.6" screen, well I made my point.
    At the same time, I am glad you guys are digging it. it is a beautiful piece of machinery with great internals.
    Thanks for putting up with my rant.

    Quote Originally Posted by jspring86 View Post
    I guess we just don't understand what else one would do with the phone that the full screen mode mattered? I guess if you feel like you need 5 inches of usable space even when perusing your home screens or apps then the phone is an epic fail.
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    Default Re: Useable screen space on HTC One (M8) less than M7

    I have both and the useable screen space is the same when the on-screen buttons are up. Just did a screen to screen comparison. The one mate is slightly wider though,as far as the on screen real estate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBSeattle View Post
    Yes, I appreciate the sarcasm but yes...epic fail for me.
    To have a phone close in height to a Note 3 and a 4.6" screen, well I made my point.
    At the same time, I am glad you guys are digging it. it is a beautiful piece of machinery with great internals.
    Thanks for putting up with my rant.
    the buttons go away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBSeattle View Post
    Yes, I appreciate the sarcasm but yes...epic fail for me.
    To have a phone close in height to a Note 3 and a 4.6" screen, well I made my point.
    At the same time, I am glad you guys are digging it. it is a beautiful piece of machinery with great internals.
    Thanks for putting up with my rant.
    How can a phone with a 4.6 inch screen have 5 inch screen when watching video?
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    Quote Originally Posted by freddyttt View Post
    the buttons go away.
    Yes, we've been through that conversation already

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    Not always..... Sorry.

    Quote Originally Posted by freddyttt View Post
    the buttons go away.
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    Why do all you people feel the need to come here and post about how you don't like this or that about the phone? If you don't like, keep it to yourself. It's almost as if your trying to persuade people not to buy it. I just don't get it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyway View Post
    Why do all you people feel the need to come here and post about how you don't like this or that about the phone? If you don't like, keep it to yourself. It's almost as if your trying to persuade people not to buy it. I just don't get it?
    There is nothing wrong with stating your opinion about a particular phone. The annoying part is when you tell everyone else who doesn't view it the same way you do that they are wrong.
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    Regardless, I actually like the button layout of M7 and HOX, everybody likes the screen to be really big, I don't get why HTC logo has to occupy its own row space on M8. It would be interesting to know the motivation behind this design.
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    Who designed this thing. Taking mine 🔙

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    If any of you have the m7 and the m8 go ahead and put them screen to screen. You will realize that the m8 is wider, so the amount of screen real estate you're losing by the on screen buttons is made up by the fact that it is wider

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    Quote Originally Posted by clevin View Post
    Regardless, I actually like the button layout of M7 and HOX, everybody likes the screen to be really big, I don't get why HTC logo has to occupy its own row space on M8. It would be interesting to know the motivation behind this design.
    The stated reasoning is that it's necessary to support the tech that makes the speakers and screen work as they do. I feel that's a lazy explanation. I'm sure there were tradeoffs, but there are plenty of device makers that have clean, glass fronts. HTC, the most design conscious device maker in the Android world, should have been able to pull this off.

    I really wanted to be persuaded to get this device as I love my M7, but I don't think it's gonna happen. I think I'll wait a year and see what the next round of devices looks like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adriandb View Post
    The stated reasoning is that it's necessary to support the tech that makes the speakers and screen work as they do. I feel that's a lazy explanation. I'm sure there were tradeoffs, but there are plenty of device makers that have clean, glass fronts. HTC, the most design conscious device maker in the Android world, should have been able to pull this off.

    I really wanted to be persuaded to get this device as I love my M7, but I don't think it's gonna happen. I think I'll wait a year and see what the next round of devices looks like.
    Well you really are missing out on a completely refined version of the m7. They took all the downfalls of the original One and improved on them in every way

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyway View Post
    Well you really are missing out on a completely refined version of the m7. They took all the downfalls of the original One and improved on them in every way

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    Except the camera which is the one that mattered to me. That said, I haven't actually held the M8 yet, but since the camera was the major failing of the M7 for me I'm not sure that holding the M8 will matter. I'll check it out in person in the next couple days.
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    I bought the phone 3 times and have sent it back 3 times. In wanted to love it, I bought everything for it.
    Sadly as original poster said, the screen seams even smaller for such a vast phone. The on screen buttons actually push the dock further up the screen, so with the bezel and that, you lose a lot of screen space. Now I don't like Samsung, but when I took it back and looked at that screen, it was like why did htc go this way. Perfect scenario was on a rooted M7, you could get the same set up using htc as home button and free all that screen space. The camera I found fine, I'm no photographer, so the ease of use etc is terrific. Just couldn't stop staring at all that wasted screen and asking why? Oh well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wafcarl View Post
    I bought the phone 3 times and have sent it back 3 times. In wanted to love it, I bought everything for it.
    Sadly as original poster said, the screen seams even smaller for such a vast phone. The on screen buttons actually push the dock further up the screen, so with the bezel and that, you lose a lot of screen space. Now I don't like Samsung, but when I took it back and looked at that screen, it was like why did htc go this way. Perfect scenario was on a rooted M7, you could get the same set up using htc as home button and free all that screen space. The camera I found fine, I'm no photographer, so the ease of use etc is terrific. Just couldn't stop staring at all that wasted screen and asking why? Oh well.
    You can root the m8 and have the on screen buttons disappear when not in use.

    Also Google wants android phones to have on screen buttons. There are a lot of benefits to them. There's less of a chance of them going bad, they move with you in whatever position you're holding the phone, and can eventually be customised. Personally I like them better. What happens when the home button on the s5 stops working? The m8 will never have that problem, as long as the screen is still working.

    Just my two cents

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