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    Default Re: I love HTC , but still have not bought One (M8) ...because of the camera

    Quote Originally Posted by ollieg View Post
    Yes. The photos were taken midday. But the contrast was my doing. I use Camera Awesome to take photos and was experimenting with the separated focus / light meter option. For the shadow photo I wanted the shadows darker than the default metering provides. Not everyone's taste, but it also is just a raw photo w/out postprocessing.
    I guess my question is... what is the level of difficulty to take bright and vibrant photos with m8?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackoceanz View Post
    wow thanks dude!

    I like how m8 looks alot sharper in the hair.
    But I still like the warmer, brighter over feel in picture from s3.
    m8 doesn't seem to handle huge amount of lights coming in directly at the lens very well. Like the reflection on the floor looks so over blown...

    It'd definitely help if photos are taken in the same angle, but thanks so much for the photos man
    This gives me some idea of what I'd be getting if I upgrade to m8 from s3
    It just cracks me up how most people know nothing about photography. If you have light hitting your lense then you don't know what you're doing. Typically light should be hitting your subject. Most camera phones will over expose when light hits the lens just as with DSLRs and SLRs. The advantage with DSLRs and SLRs are that you can put lens covers on them to keep the light from hitting the lens. ALL cameras will falter in those conditions. Another thing, pictures taken in bright sun lit days are not the best conditions for great photography because of the hard lighting and shadows.
    The HTC M8 has the ability to adjust exposure after the shot and it works really good. I don't tend to over expose because I'm a good photographer in general and so many of you would benefit from searching the Internet on how to take and frame a great picture than looking at comparisons between the S5 and the M8....You're just so misguided! If the camera on the phone is that important to you, then you must be into photography a little and if that's the case then consider learning more about the craft.
    You will find that each camera has unique strengths and weaknesses. What makes great pictures is the combination of the artist, his brush strokes, and his canvas. Notice I did not say his brush. Because an artist can be creative no matter what tool he uses, there's chalk, there's rocks, there's brushes, there's pencils.... You get my point right! So stop obsessing over your tools and learn how to create using the tools at your disposal. Every tool has a significant quality known unto itself. The better you are at showing off your tool's advantages, the less likely your tool gets in the way of great pictures! It's really that simple! No one camera can be the best at everything!

    If the S5 can't take good low light pics, then i wouldn't be trying to take low light pics with that camera. If the M8 can't take good high contrast lighting pics, then I wouldn't be trying to take those kinds of pics with that camera... But, I bet because I'm a pretty good photographer in general, I could do more with those cameras weaknesses than most of you could do with their strengths and that's just because I've studied the craft a little! I believe that's something that all of you pseudo photographers could benefit from... Just saying! Lol!

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  3. Thread Author  Thread Author    #128  

    Default Re: I love HTC , but still have not bought One (M8) ...because of the camera

    Quote Originally Posted by CHILLYWILL_95831 View Post
    It just cracks me up how most people know nothing about photography. If you have light hitting your lense then you don't know what you're doing. Typically light should be hitting your subject. Most camera phones will over expose when light hits the lens just as with DSLRs and SLRs. The advantage with DSLRs and SLRs are that you can put lens covers on them to keep the light from hitting the lens. ALL cameras will falter in those conditions. Another thing, pictures taken in bright sun lit days are not the best conditions for great photography because of the hard lighting and shadows.
    The HTC M8 has the ability to adjust exposure after the shot and it works really good. I don't tend to over expose because I'm a good photographer in general and so many of you would benefit from searching the Internet on how to take and frame a great picture than looking at comparisons between the S5 and the M8....You're just so misguided! If the camera on the phone is that important to you, then you must be into photography a little and if that's the case then consider learning more about the craft.
    You will find that each camera has unique strengths and weaknesses. What makes great pictures is the combination of the artist, his brush strokes, and his canvas. Notice I did not say his brush. Because an artist can be creative no matter what tool he uses, there's chalk, there's rocks, there's brushes, there's pencils.... You get my point right! So stop obsessing over your tools and learn how to create using the tools at your disposal. Every tool has a significant quality known unto itself. The better you are at showing off your tool's advantages, the less likely your tool gets in the way of great pictures! It's really that simple! No one camera can be the best at everything!

    If the S5 can't take good low light pics, then i wouldn't be trying to take low light pics with that camera. If the M8 can't take good high contrast lighting pics, then I wouldn't be trying to take those kinds of pics with that camera... But, I bet because I'm a pretty good photographer in general, I could do more with those cameras weaknesses than most of you could do with their strengths and that's just because I've studied the craft a little! I believe that's something that all of you pseudo photographers could benefit from... Just saying! Lol!

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    agree with everything you said. Photographers are essentially painters who paint with light. Camera is just a brush, a tool, or a vehicle to get to the final product.
    With all due respect, mind sharing some photos you have taken with m8? I would love to see what m8 is capable of in the hands of a very good painter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by omgitsjoe View Post
    The M8s camera is good for probably 98% of the population whom takes pictures for their social media purposes.

    I'm able to take decent pictures at outings and whatnot and have no concern if it doesn't look " professional " at all.

    The selfies that my wife leaves for me on my phone are more than good enough for me to stare and appreciate the M8s camera qualities

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    Default Re: I love HTC , but still have not bought One (M8) ...because of the camera

    Does anyone know how the M8's camera performance compares to the 8MP camera on the EVO LTE?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackoceanz View Post
    agree with everything you said. Photographers are essentially painters who paint with light. Camera is just a brush, a tool, or a vehicle to get to the final product.
    With all due respect, mind sharing some photos you have taken with m8? I would love to see what m8 is capable of in the hands of a very good painter.
    Refer to this post by me "this is just a simple thread about the camera." we kept it positive and I posted a couple of pics. I haven't done a bunch of pictures with my cell phone, but i think i framed a couple of pretty nice ones on that thread!

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    Default Re: I love HTC , but still have not bought One (M8) ...because of the camera

    Quote Originally Posted by ImmaSlave4U View Post
    Does anyone know how the M8's camera performance compares to the 8MP camera on the EVO LTE?
    Seriously? There's no comparison! But, are you really gonna take my opinion on this. I've had both and you couldn't pay me to use the LTE again! Well maybe you could pay me to use it, but I would never replace my M8 camera with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHILLYWILL_95831 View Post
    Refer to this post by me "this is just a simple thread about the camera." we kept it positive and I posted a couple of pics. I haven't done a bunch of pictures with my cell phone, but i think i framed a couple of pretty nice ones on that thread!

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    I do prefer the brightness and colors of your photos a bit more... than most of the photos I have seen taken by m8
    I still see reflection and bright areas get over blown tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackoceanz View Post
    I guess my question is... what is the level of difficulty to take bright and vibrant photos with m8?
    The M8 doesn't need a lot of help taking vibrant photos, just make sure you always start with a clean lens. I consider that of utmost importance with this particular camera. Because the lens is so sensitive to light, a dirty lens will create lens flare. And, I'm willing to bet every photo you see posted on the net of this camera that has flare also has a smudged lens. The lens will not flare light if it's crystal! You want bright and vibrant, step closer to your subject! This is not a landscape camera. However, if you must do landscapes, choose cloudy days, not necessarily overcast, early morning and sun setting evenings! Frame a subject with a fair amount of horizon, and contrast between land and sky should be striking to your eye without the camera! If it's not then typically it won't be striking with the camera. However, you can edit your pics after the shots to create more than what you originally had. The pics I took on another thread had no post processing or cropping! I got lucky with the original shot.

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    Default Re: I love HTC , but still have not bought One (M8) ...because of the camera

    Quote Originally Posted by jackoceanz View Post
    I do prefer the brightness and colors of your photos a bit more... than most of the photos I have seen taken by m8
    I still see reflection and bright areas get over blown tho.
    This is true, but the pics taken as a whole are pretty neat. I think the pics you're envisioning in your mind have post processing. I could have done that, but chose to keep it natural. When i shot the bridge crossing the water, I didn't meter so there was some over exposure, but if I had metered the bridge on the horizon, it would not have been over exposed... I did that intentionally, as the picture of the building/stores was metered and the exposure was as good as you can get with the M8 or any other phone camera for that matter. You can look at the full version and actually see the facial features of the couple walking toward me! So fooey on those who say you can't get good detail out of a 4up camera!

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    Default Re: I love HTC , but still have not bought One (M8) ...because of the camera

    Quote Originally Posted by ImmaSlave4U View Post
    Does anyone know how the M8's camera performance compares to the 8MP camera on the EVO LTE?
    From the sample shots I have seen so far... First sample shots with HTC's EVO 4G LTE for Sprint
    m8 will give you way sharper images, but images maybe darker than usual.

    EVO LTE will give you less sharp images, but you are going to get brighter colors.
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    Default Re: I love HTC , but still have not bought One (M8) ...because of the camera

    Quote Originally Posted by jackoceanz View Post
    From the sample shots I have seen so far... First sample shots with HTC's EVO 4G LTE for Sprint
    m8 will give you way sharper images, but images maybe darker than usual.

    EVO LTE will give you less sharp images, but you are going to get brighter colors.
    What you call brighter, I consider more shallow or less rich than the M8. You can't really compare if youre not comparing the cameras at the same time same place!

    http://m.blogs.computerworld.com/sma...-one-m8-camera

    Check this out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHILLYWILL_95831 View Post
    What you call brighter, I consider more shallow or less rich than the M8. You can't really compare if youre not comparing the cameras at the same time same place!

    http://m.blogs.computerworld.com/sma...-one-m8-camera

    Check this out!

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    Both cameras have strengths and weaknesses! Neither is good in all situations as I said earlier! Once you know your cameras capabilities, then you can take great pics. The thing I don't like about above review is that there aren't any people shots! And, we do all of this talk about these phone cameras, but when we actually end up taking pics with memories attached, it's usually of people we care about and I believe the M8 excels in the area of portrait photos, macros, flash, and dim lit scenery... IMHO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHILLYWILL_95831 View Post
    Seriously? There's no comparison! But, are you really gonna take my opinion on this. I've had both and you couldn't pay me to use the LTE again! Well maybe you could pay me to use it, but I would never replace my M8 camera with it.
    Actually, yes, I am going to take your opinion on this. I'm currently on the EVO LTE and have taken quite a few good shots with it. I definitely don't remember hearing complaint after complaint regarding its camera capability when it came out.

    But I am ready for an upgrade and I am seriously considering the One M8, but the camera uproar caused me to briefly consider jumping ship to Samsung. I really don't think that will be necessary now as I think the M8 camera gripes may be overblown.
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    Default Re: I love HTC , but still have not bought One (M8) ...because of the camera

    Quote Originally Posted by CHILLYWILL_95831 View Post
    What you call brighter, I consider more shallow or less rich than the M8. You can't really compare if youre not comparing the cameras at the same time same place!

    Galaxy S5 vs. HTC One (M8): Camera shootout! | Computerworld Blogs

    Check this out!

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    I have read this blog before.
    Here is another with people Samsung Galaxy S5 camera shootout versus HTC One M8, iPhone 5S - CNET
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    Default Re: I love HTC , but still have not bought One (M8) ...because of the camera

    Quote Originally Posted by jackoceanz View Post
    I have read this blog before.
    Here is another with people Samsung Galaxy S5 camera shootout versus HTC One M8, iPhone 5S - CNET
    All these camera reviews are not really helpful. People love to read them when new phones are out, but once a phone is in the hands of users, it is better just to look at the camera threads. The reviewers have dubious skills, and generally have not spent enough time with the cameras to get the best out of each of them. For some phones that is an advantage- say the iPhone - has a simple interface and good general metering that allows a user to become proficient quickly. The HTC phones are at more of a disadvantage because they are further from the norm and the reviewers have the preconceived idea that it doesn't measure up and therefore don't realize they are not getting the results that they should. You have to be more active in metering your shots, using the spot meter and expousure lock because the metering is much more flexible. This can result in horrible shots if you aren't paying attention and that is why you see blow outs and dull shots from people who haven't learned the camera. There are many posts in M7 and M8 threads where people remark about how the more they use the HTC camera the more impressed they are- there is a more technique involved, but more reward.

    When you look at the camera threads, you should be looking for the users that are good photographers. The good photographers and good photographs show what the camera is capable of. Any camera can take bad pictures in the wrong hands.

    Bottom line on ultrapixel vs. multi-mega pixel cameras is this - the ultra pixel camera will be more responsive (fast shutter, more FPS), take less memory to store the photos, perform better indoors, moderate to low light.

    The multi-mega pixel cameras will take better shots in good to bright light, provide the opportunity to crop. However, the files take more memory and the phones can't perform in low light without blur or heavy smudging noise reduction (despite what the flawed reviews seem to show).

    The M8 (and M7) are decent cameras out of the box, but really start to sing when you get some experience and feel for them. If you have photographic aptitude, you can get shots that you just can't get with other phone cameras. Comparing the s5 and M8 is like comparing '67 camaro ss to a '67 lotus elan. Believe me, the HTC camera has definite strengths and many charms, or else I (and many other happy HTC camera owners) wouldn't be using one.
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    Default Re: I love HTC , but still have not bought One (M8) ...because of the camera

    Quote Originally Posted by jackoceanz View Post
    I have read this blog before.
    Here is another with people Samsung Galaxy S5 camera shootout versus HTC One M8, iPhone 5S - CNET
    Lol, and I saw this one, based on the reviews that you've been reading, why are you on the fence about the HTC M8? If I were reading the reviews and I was convinced that that reviewers are fair and impartial, then there's no way I'd choose the M8, especially if i wanted a top notch cell phone camera. Like I said before, no one phone will be the perfect phone. Samsung would be perfect if touch wiz didn't feel cartoonist and it wasn't plastic. IPhone would be perfect if it didn't have a tiny screen and allowed users to customize. The M8 would be perfect if it had a better camera! There will NEVER be a perfect phone because what's perfect for you will not ever be perfect for me. That's the challenge that manufacturers must deal with! So, what will you do? I'm interested to know!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImmaSlave4U View Post
    Actually, yes, I am going to take your opinion on this. I'm currently on the EVO LTE and have taken quite a few good shots with it. I definitely don't remember hearing complaint after complaint regarding its camera capability when it came out.

    But I am ready for an upgrade and I am seriously considering the One M8, but the camera uproar caused me to briefly consider jumping ship to Samsung. I really don't think that will be necessary now as I think the M8 camera gripes may be overblown.
    They are over blown, but I'm at the point where I really think HTC gets it. The One is sensitive to light and once you hit the learning curve you will be happier with it than your EVO! I promise!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegrants82 View Post
    Many many of you have. I did, I used the M8 for two days and couldn't believe the pos camera. I truly can't believe why they cheaped out with such a bad camera. The camera and the silly looking length made me dump the m8. Never had a phone that hung out of my back pocket until the m8. It just looks silly.

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    It would probably take you longer than that to learn to use the camera effectively. Not surprising you don't really like it. You carry your phone in your back pocket???? Wow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coronaboy10 View Post
    It would probably take you longer than that to learn to use the camera effectively. Not surprising you don't really like it. You carry your phone in your back pocket???? Wow.
    Definitely should be using the cheapo Sammy if you're sitting down on your phone... What an........! Lol!

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