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    Default Harman Kardon M8

    Looks like HTC is releasing a whole other phone for this , I thought this was just a update to the current Sprint model.
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    Yeah, it's angering.

    If you S-OFF, you can get the software enhancements, at least.
    Device 1: HTC One (M8)/831C | Hardware Version: 0005
    Baseband: 1.08.20.0612_4 | PRI: 2.62_003 | PRL: 53136 | Recovery: TWRP 2.8.0.7

    Device 2: HTC Jewel/PJ75100 (EVO 4G LTE) | Hardware Version: 0003
    Baseband: 1.13.11.1105 | PRI: 3.02_003 | PRL: 56018 | Recovery: TWRP 2.8.0.2

    Device 3: HTC Shooter/PG86100 (EVO 3D) | Hardware Version: 0002
    Baseband: 1.09.00.0108 | PRI: 1.55_003 | PRL: 22100 | Recovery: TWRP 2.7.1.0


    Device 4: HTC Supersonic/PC36100 (EVO 4G) | Hardware Version: 0004
    Baseband: 2.15.00.01.15 | PRI: 2.33_003 | PRL: 40460 | Recovery: TWRP 2.8.0.0
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    Does this mean no HK for us OG Sprint m8 owners ?
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    We literally have the same hardware. So the only thing you don't have is the earbuds and software, essentially - which you can get by attaining S-OFF 😉
    Device 1: HTC One (M8)/831C | Hardware Version: 0005
    Baseband: 1.08.20.0612_4 | PRI: 2.62_003 | PRL: 53136 | Recovery: TWRP 2.8.0.7

    Device 2: HTC Jewel/PJ75100 (EVO 4G LTE) | Hardware Version: 0003
    Baseband: 1.13.11.1105 | PRI: 3.02_003 | PRL: 56018 | Recovery: TWRP 2.8.0.2

    Device 3: HTC Shooter/PG86100 (EVO 3D) | Hardware Version: 0002
    Baseband: 1.09.00.0108 | PRI: 1.55_003 | PRL: 22100 | Recovery: TWRP 2.7.1.0


    Device 4: HTC Supersonic/PC36100 (EVO 4G) | Hardware Version: 0004
    Baseband: 2.15.00.01.15 | PRI: 2.33_003 | PRL: 40460 | Recovery: TWRP 2.8.0.0
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    and that can come in a update?
    Quote Originally Posted by Captain_Throwback View Post
    We literally have the same hardware. So the only thing you don't have is the earbuds and software, essentially - which you can get by attaining S-OFF ��
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    Quote Originally Posted by RRHMJ23 View Post
    and that can come in a update?
    I don't understand your question. The "regular" Sprint M8 won't get an update to become the HK edition. I explained the only way you'll get it (outside of buying it) it by S-OFF and flashing the ROM with the supporting software.
    Device 1: HTC One (M8)/831C | Hardware Version: 0005
    Baseband: 1.08.20.0612_4 | PRI: 2.62_003 | PRL: 53136 | Recovery: TWRP 2.8.0.7

    Device 2: HTC Jewel/PJ75100 (EVO 4G LTE) | Hardware Version: 0003
    Baseband: 1.13.11.1105 | PRI: 3.02_003 | PRL: 56018 | Recovery: TWRP 2.8.0.2

    Device 3: HTC Shooter/PG86100 (EVO 3D) | Hardware Version: 0002
    Baseband: 1.09.00.0108 | PRI: 1.55_003 | PRL: 22100 | Recovery: TWRP 2.7.1.0


    Device 4: HTC Supersonic/PC36100 (EVO 4G) | Hardware Version: 0004
    Baseband: 2.15.00.01.15 | PRI: 2.33_003 | PRL: 40460 | Recovery: TWRP 2.8.0.0
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    This is why I hate buying a phone only 1-2 weeks after its been released......knew I should have waited.......
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    Oh ok. Well i heard earlier that their will be a update for the original m8s. But i guess they decided to just release a whole other phone
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    Quote Originally Posted by RRHMJ23 View Post
    Oh ok. Well i heard earlier that their will be a update for the original m8s. But i guess they decided to just release a whole other phone
    Pretty sure this was always the plan. Sounds like some incorrect speculation.
    Device 1: HTC One (M8)/831C | Hardware Version: 0005
    Baseband: 1.08.20.0612_4 | PRI: 2.62_003 | PRL: 53136 | Recovery: TWRP 2.8.0.7

    Device 2: HTC Jewel/PJ75100 (EVO 4G LTE) | Hardware Version: 0003
    Baseband: 1.13.11.1105 | PRI: 3.02_003 | PRL: 56018 | Recovery: TWRP 2.8.0.2

    Device 3: HTC Shooter/PG86100 (EVO 3D) | Hardware Version: 0002
    Baseband: 1.09.00.0108 | PRI: 1.55_003 | PRL: 22100 | Recovery: TWRP 2.7.1.0


    Device 4: HTC Supersonic/PC36100 (EVO 4G) | Hardware Version: 0004
    Baseband: 2.15.00.01.15 | PRI: 2.33_003 | PRL: 40460 | Recovery: TWRP 2.8.0.0
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    There is new hardware in the HK version....it will have a 24 bit 192 dac and special amps for the BoomSound speakers...I just read the press release on a topic on XDA.

    http://newsroom.sprint.com/news-rele...ee-spotify.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by josh6113 View Post
    There is new hardware in the HK version....it will have a 24 bit 192 dac and special amps for the BoomSound speakers...I just read the press release on a topic on XDA.

    http://newsroom.sprint.com/news-rele...ee-spotify.htm

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    All the Sprint M8s have the hardware. The software is just needed to take advantage of it.
    Device 1: HTC One (M8)/831C | Hardware Version: 0005
    Baseband: 1.08.20.0612_4 | PRI: 2.62_003 | PRL: 53136 | Recovery: TWRP 2.8.0.7

    Device 2: HTC Jewel/PJ75100 (EVO 4G LTE) | Hardware Version: 0003
    Baseband: 1.13.11.1105 | PRI: 3.02_003 | PRL: 56018 | Recovery: TWRP 2.8.0.2

    Device 3: HTC Shooter/PG86100 (EVO 3D) | Hardware Version: 0002
    Baseband: 1.09.00.0108 | PRI: 1.55_003 | PRL: 22100 | Recovery: TWRP 2.7.1.0


    Device 4: HTC Supersonic/PC36100 (EVO 4G) | Hardware Version: 0004
    Baseband: 2.15.00.01.15 | PRI: 2.33_003 | PRL: 40460 | Recovery: TWRP 2.8.0.0
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain_Throwback View Post
    All the Sprint M8s have the hardware. The software is just needed to take advantage of it.
    Ok...I didn't know we had an HD dac in our OG m8's at 24 bit 192khz...I'd be curious if we did....cause if not then there is a hardware difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by josh6113 View Post
    Ok...I didn't know we had an HD dac in our OG m8's at 24 bit 192khz...I'd be curious if we did....cause if not then there is a hardware difference.

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    Only thing needed to take advantage of it is the updated audio_policy.conf in /system/etc. But yup, we have the hardware.

    Of course I guess you could take yours apart and check .
    Device 1: HTC One (M8)/831C | Hardware Version: 0005
    Baseband: 1.08.20.0612_4 | PRI: 2.62_003 | PRL: 53136 | Recovery: TWRP 2.8.0.7

    Device 2: HTC Jewel/PJ75100 (EVO 4G LTE) | Hardware Version: 0003
    Baseband: 1.13.11.1105 | PRI: 3.02_003 | PRL: 56018 | Recovery: TWRP 2.8.0.2

    Device 3: HTC Shooter/PG86100 (EVO 3D) | Hardware Version: 0002
    Baseband: 1.09.00.0108 | PRI: 1.55_003 | PRL: 22100 | Recovery: TWRP 2.7.1.0


    Device 4: HTC Supersonic/PC36100 (EVO 4G) | Hardware Version: 0004
    Baseband: 2.15.00.01.15 | PRI: 2.33_003 | PRL: 40460 | Recovery: TWRP 2.8.0.0
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain_Throwback View Post
    Only thing needed to take advantage of it is the updated audio_policy.conf in /system/etc. But yup, we have the hardware.

    Of course I guess you could take yours apart and check .
    Ok cool just my curious nature...😃

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    The Sprint press release isn't very clear on what differences there are in hardware. This is from the link posted above:

    The new handset is the culmination of a months-long project that Sprint and its partners at HTC and Harman Kardon embarked on to redefine the way people listen to music on their smartphones:

    A revolutionary application -- HARMAN’s Clari-Fi -- that restores and “rebuilds” music fidelity lost during audio compression. The first time in a mobile device, Clari-Fi yields richer, deeper and clearer sound quality for compressed digital music (like MP3 downloads or streaming services like Spotify®).

    Lossless HD Audio music reproduction via a 24bit/192kHz DAC that delivers roughly six times the information of compact disc music and 60 times the information of an MP3 or streaming music source when playing high-res digital (FLAC) downloads from sources like HDtracks.com.

    The HTC One (M8) Harman Kardon edition features industry-leading sound with HTC’s proprietary front-facing speakers, dedicated custom amps for the speakers and headphones, and the device comes bundled with a custom set of Harman Kardon AE-S headphones with extended bass response -- a $149 retail value. It also boasts up to 160GB of total data storage with a microSD card slot that supports up to 128GB of storage cards on top of the built-in 32GB.



    While it clearly says it has clari-fi (which is software) and the 24 bit/192khz dac, that seems to be all. The last paragraph talks about HTC's proprietary front facing speakers and dedicated custom amps, but the thing is all m8's have front facing speakers with dedicated custom amps. It doesn't mention anything about Harmon Kardon specific amps or speakers which leads me to believe that the clari-fi and dac are the only differences, besides the color. That's how I took it, but I could be wrong.

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    So I guess those of us how purchased or M8s a little over two weeks ago are screwed by Sprint again???
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    This is really ****ty of both HTC and Sprint to stick it to their customers like this. This device should have come out with the original to give Sprint customers choice. Not come out just long enough so that no one can exchange for it. What a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyway View Post
    The Sprint press release isn't very clear on what differences there are in hardware. This is from the link posted above:

    The new handset is the culmination of a months-long project that Sprint and its partners at HTC and Harman Kardon embarked on to redefine the way people listen to music on their smartphones:

    A revolutionary application -- HARMAN’s Clari-Fi -- that restores and “rebuilds” music fidelity lost during audio compression. The first time in a mobile device, Clari-Fi yields richer, deeper and clearer sound quality for compressed digital music (like MP3 downloads or streaming services like Spotify®).

    Lossless HD Audio music reproduction via a 24bit/192kHz DAC that delivers roughly six times the information of compact disc music and 60 times the information of an MP3 or streaming music source when playing high-res digital (FLAC) downloads from sources like HDtracks.com.

    The HTC One (M8) Harman Kardon edition features industry-leading sound with HTC’s proprietary front-facing speakers, dedicated custom amps for the speakers and headphones, and the device comes bundled with a custom set of Harman Kardon AE-S headphones with extended bass response -- a $149 retail value. It also boasts up to 160GB of total data storage with a microSD card slot that supports up to 128GB of storage cards on top of the built-in 32GB.



    While it clearly says it has clari-fi (which is software) and the 24 bit/192khz dac, that seems to be all. The last paragraph talks about HTC's proprietary front facing speakers and dedicated custom amps, but the thing is all m8's have front facing speakers with dedicated custom amps. It doesn't mention anything about Harmon Kardon specific amps or speakers which leads me to believe that the clari-fi and dac are the only differences, besides the color. That's how I took it, but I could be wrong.

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    The key there is the DAC. If the M8's current DAC is 24/96 then it's likely that this is just a software thing + headphones. If they are using a new DAC then it's something special.
    As far as the software goes, from an engineering perspective, it's not anything to be jealous over. There's a few "tricks" to making it sound less damaged from compression but if you are listening to low quality music in the first place, then the point of this feature is somewhat lost. The language dances around teh fact that it's using the same speakers and amp.
    My guess is that that this is a cheap and easy way to boost sales without actually giving much away. If you have decent headphones already, don't worry about missing out this. I do commend HTC for doing things like this though. They need to keep their lead in the smartphone audio field and keep running with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maverick96 View Post
    This is really ****ty of both HTC and Sprint to stick it to their customers like this. This device should have come out with the original to give Sprint customers choice. Not come out just long enough so that no one can exchange for it. What a joke.

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    You should try to understand what this is and what it isn't. Please read above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by B0WIE View Post
    The key there is the DAC. If the M8's current DAC is 24/96 then it's likely that this is just a software thing + headphones. If they are using a new DAC then it's something special.
    As far as the software goes, from an engineering perspective, it's not anything to be jealous over. There's a few "tricks" to making it sound less damaged from compression but if you are listening to low quality music in the first place, then the point of this feature is somewhat lost. The language dances around teh fact that it's using the same speakers and amp.
    My guess is that that this is a cheap and easy way to boost sales without actually giving much away. If you have decent headphones already, don't worry about missing out this. I do commend HTC for doing things like this though. They need to keep their lead in the smartphone audio field and keep running with it.
    Yea I wasn't too worried about the software but the DAC is a competent different story. I don't listen to a whole lot of lossless/flac files so it may be irrelevant to me. I still want it though 😒

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyway View Post
    Yea I wasn't too worried about the software but the DAC is a competent different story. I don't listen to a whole lot of lossless/flac files so it may be irrelevant to me. I still want it though ��

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    I listen mostly to lossless but specs do not dictate the quality when it comes to D/A conversion. The chips themselves are cheap enough, it's the implementation that makes or breaks it. You can have two items using the exact same D/A chips and get very different quality results in digital to analog conversion. It's amazing that phones have come so far that we can even have this discussion. I'm blown away that my 600ohm studio headphones actually sound good on the M8.
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    I want 192khz! Any way a software update could do this on a standard M8?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pootyash View Post
    I want 192khz! Any way a software update could do this on a standard M8?

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    As I already said, it's all software side. We have the hardware. This is the update to audio_policy to which I referred earlier:
    Code:
          tunnel {
            sampling_rates 8000|11025|16000|22050|32000|44100|48000|64000|88200|96000|176400|192000
    The bolded section above is the added portion.
    Device 1: HTC One (M8)/831C | Hardware Version: 0005
    Baseband: 1.08.20.0612_4 | PRI: 2.62_003 | PRL: 53136 | Recovery: TWRP 2.8.0.7

    Device 2: HTC Jewel/PJ75100 (EVO 4G LTE) | Hardware Version: 0003
    Baseband: 1.13.11.1105 | PRI: 3.02_003 | PRL: 56018 | Recovery: TWRP 2.8.0.2

    Device 3: HTC Shooter/PG86100 (EVO 3D) | Hardware Version: 0002
    Baseband: 1.09.00.0108 | PRI: 1.55_003 | PRL: 22100 | Recovery: TWRP 2.7.1.0


    Device 4: HTC Supersonic/PC36100 (EVO 4G) | Hardware Version: 0004
    Baseband: 2.15.00.01.15 | PRI: 2.33_003 | PRL: 40460 | Recovery: TWRP 2.8.0.0
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    Do the M8's for other carriers have the same hardware? I know some of the ROMs have the Harmon Kardon stuff enabled in software, but I just wonder if the hardware is there as well. Surely it would be. I can't imagine HTC making a custom version just for sprint, but stranger things have happened.
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