Is 16GB's enough?

**Jonneh** · 04-24-2012, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by garment69

My old habbits die hard. I like having 10 movies to chose from. I like having all my music locally and I like keeping as many videos of my kids as I can. I dont want to have to spend all my time managing what I have on my phone. I have the GS2 with 16gb on board and a 32 GB sd card. I can probably make due with the 32gb unlocked version, but 9.7 with no way to add additional? Its a non starter for me.

Yeah, these are great points. Especially for people always on the go, they won't want to spend time managing what's on their phone all of the time. It's true. I guess for my personal situation, though - I have a Transformer Prime that I basically use as a laptop (It's almost never out of its keyboard dock). It has 32GB of onboard storage plus another 32GB through its full-sized SD card, and if I really wanted even more space, I could add yet another 32GB through its micro-SD slot. Its screen and its viewing angles are amazing, not to mention the battery life - so I use this thing pretty much as the biggest, most portable and lightweight media consumption device I've ever had. For something like plane rides, it'd be easy for me to turn off its wifi and just consume a ton of local videos, music and pictures through it. Since I already have this usage case for my Prime, a phone like the LTE-powered HTC One X fits me perfectly fine; even though I'm upset with AT&T for being the sneaky little money-greedy b@stards they are for forcing HTC to lower the storage to increase fees for AT&T when customers go over. Another good point for my situation - I (currently) have an unlimited, grand-father data plan with them. No telling how much longer though.

**Sedrick** · 04-24-2012, 11:11 AM

Meanwhile, Apple is selling 64gig phones. 16gig + limited data plans + poor service = fail.

**RoboWarrior** · 05-01-2012, 10:49 PM

I wonder if everybody realizes that if they stream pandora or google music they will most likely be throttled by the 3rd day of their monthly plan IF they have an unlimited data plan and most of us don't have one so dropbox and google music is an impossible replacement unless they are at home with wifi all the time. If that is then what's to point of having a smartphone? Just use your computer or tablet and stream iheartradio.-_____- This is the only time that I hope HTC screws us over and release a 32 GB version and call it HTC One XE (E stands for extra) like what happened with the Droid Razr. If this happens then I forgive HTC.

**Sedrick** · 05-02-2012, 06:51 AM

Originally Posted by RoboWarrior

I wonder if everybody realizes that if they stream pandora or google music they will most likely be throttled by the 3rd day of their monthly plan IF they have an unlimited data plan and most of us don't have one so dropbox and google music is an impossible replacement unless they are at home with wifi all the time. If that is then what's to point of having a smartphone? Just use your computer or tablet and stream iheartradio.-_____- This is the only time that I hope HTC screws us over and release a 32 GB version and call it HTC One XE (E stands for extra) like what happened with the Droid Razr. If this happens then I forgive HTC.

+1

Everyone that keeps saying "...but you have google music and dropbox!" is not paying attention to the facts most people have to deal with: Limited data plans and quite often crappy connection speeds.

**jeffreii** · 05-02-2012, 07:52 AM

Yes I could cut some mp3s down, get rid of all my videos, and manage my space better...

...but on a FLAGSHIP phone in 2012 this is a JOKE. The cost saved by using a 16GB vs 32GB card is paltry. Plus, these crooks could have done like Apple and charged us an extra $100 for the 32GB version but that's not an option?

This makes me angry because this phone is amazing otherwise. I'm not switching to Sprint. I don't want to import an international version with the slower Tegra quad core and lose LTE.

Use the cloud instead? Fake/expensive unlimited data plans + the fact that you can't take advantage of the cloud on airplanes, low-reception areas, etc. = not an alternative but a supplement.

I'm just hoping Samsung hooks it up tomorrow with a superior phone so I don't have to consider the stupid prospect of having 10GB of storage space on my flagship phone for the next two years.

**Mikey47** · 05-02-2012, 09:00 AM

Not that i agree with this, but i think they want you to manage what is on the device from "the cloud" while on wifi, then when you're off wifi you can listen to music/watch videos that are on your phone without utilizing your capped data.

**mrmoe110** · 05-02-2012, 09:05 AM

I understand that tiered plans make using Spotify or Pandora difficult but I use Google Music without using data by pinning music while I'm at home on Wi-Fi.

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**Codeworks** · 05-02-2012, 10:53 AM

The storage space I can deal with due to the cloud. I have plenty of other devices to load up with music, etc... However, the 2GB of application space I have a hard time with. Yes, I have a ton of apps and No, I do not need to install them all, but since I have purchased them, I want to install them.

One of the things I like about the GNex is that all of the sotrage on the phone can be used for whatever you would like (at least from what I have seen). I dont like being limited to 2GB of app space.

I am assuming since there is no expandable memory, once the 2GB is gone, its gone?

Thanks.

**Sedrick** · 05-02-2012, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by modidlee

I understand that tiered plans make using Spotify or Pandora difficult but I use Google Music without using data by pinning music while I'm at home on Wi-Fi.

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See, really, if I have to be near my WiFi, I'll just move my collection around whenever I need from my home PC. What's even the point of 25 gigs on dropbox and all my music on Google then? If you have to have WiFi (either because you have limited data and/or crappy connection speed) to make this whole operation practical, you can do it from home without all these 'services'.

**Mobius360** · 05-02-2012, 11:46 AM

IMO it can be enough but it simply depends on your needs. It's probably enough for most of your average users too. I think the BS they are selling by telling people to stream is simply a greedy make more money move. I'm still on an unlimited plan so I could care less but 2gb of streaming can go very fast.

16gb however not enough for me but I use my phone for a little of everything, work and entertainment. I installed a game the other day that had an additional 800mb or so download. If you're putting stuff like that on your phone, 16gb is going to disappear fast.

For the One series they should have done 32gb. I think it was a big miss but on the other hand the phone will sell well I imagine and that's all that matters to the companies in the end. As an alternative I wonder if they had done 8gb with a memory card slot if the reception would be better.

My phone has 32gb and it seems to be a sweet spot. I can put a decent amount of music, photos, videos and games without worry. I would still prefer it had the memory card slot but that seems to be slowly going away. The plus compared to my last phone with the memory slot is there is almost zero load time when the phone boots up, no more card scans or mounting and un-mounting. I would have paid the extra money though for a 64gb Nexus, hopefully next time around.

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**paintdrinkingpete** · 05-02-2012, 11:52 AM

So wait...this phone only has 16GB internal space and NO SD support?!?!? I assumed when I read it was 16GB that it also included a SD card slot...

I'm actually shocked. I was a bit envious of AT&T subscribers for getting this, but now I'm happy to wait a bit longer for something else.

Extra cloud storage is great, but what happens when I'm trying to watch a movie on a plane, or listen to music while riding in the subway (which is when I usually do listen to music on my phone)? Hard to access my dropbox account when I'm in airplane mode or have no signal.

Heck, probably about 25% of my SD card now is used for Nandroid backups -- pretty hard to access those over the cloud when I'm in CWM trying to do a restore. (Although I'm sure HTC/AT&T don't really care too much about that concern).

Also, FWIW, 2GB of *app storage* should be more than adequate, IMO. I don't have an issue with that.

**aimetti** · 05-02-2012, 11:56 AM

16 is more than enough for me

I had a galaxy nexus w/ 2 CWM backups , few roms , all my apps etc and still had 10 gb left.

Google music has all my music (never have problems w/ the stream and also caches most of it)

Apps only took up a gig or so , I dont play to many games so that doesnt effect me really.
photos auto upload to g+ and I have netflix for streaming.

Now if I didnt have my unlimited data w/ att my stance on this would be completely different. However I do , so doesnt effect me.

**wrxdrunkie** · 05-02-2012, 12:01 PM

I just saw the new htc music hub and it looks pretty slick. Reminds me of the music hub in wp7 which I love. Doesn't anyone know if the htc music app will tie in your google music library? If so that'd be amazing.

**graffixnyc** · 05-02-2012, 12:27 PM

16gb is definitely not enough for me. I have a 64gb card in my phone plus 16 gb of internal storage. I have about 25 gigs of just music, plus 100's of pictures, videos and a couple movies. Sure, there are cloud services but not all of us have grandfathered unlimited data and streaming music alone would quickly eat up my 4gb of data. The only having 16gb and no sd card slot is the ONLY reason why I would never buy this phone

**newbey123** · 05-02-2012, 12:31 PM

It's going to be different for everyone. As for me, it will be plenty.

**vinny jr** · 05-02-2012, 12:37 PM

HTC and AT&T ruined an otherwise great phone. The international model comes with 32mb of internal memory. Why does AT&T's version only have 16 which after the software you have a little over 9mb of memory. Pathetic, they ruined a great device for a couple of crumby bucks. Any person would rather have the memory and larger battery with a little thicker phone. Whoever designs these devices is completely blind to what the public wants and needs. These designers obviously don't use the phone, otherwise it would have the added memory and larger battery. I am seriously disgusted. I was waiting for this phone to jump on the AT&T LTE Network. I will never buy a new phone with no memory. If I hear the cloud bull one more time I will scream, try accessing your files, music or movies when you have no signal and no wifi. Forget it. If you do use the cloud for your music see how fast your data cap runs out. That is the entire motivation from the Carrier, to use your data so you BUY, BUY more. This is how I really feel. US Carriers just suck.

**randyw** · 05-02-2012, 12:55 PM

Not for me. On my Inspire 4G the phone storage is almost full and my 32gb SD card is half full of music,videos,pictures ect. I have a limited data plan to cut down on cost so the cloud is not an option, If I even trusted the cloud to begin with. So unless they come out with a 32gb model of this phone I will not buy it. Come on Samsung S3!!

**sRedwolf** · 05-02-2012, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by graffixnyc

Sure, there are cloud services but not all of us have grandfathered unlimited data and streaming music alone would quickly eat up my 4gb of data.

Agreed - but at least you have 4gb... Most of us in Canada with normal plans have 500mb. This is more than sufficient for my day to day use so I have no intention of buying a phone that requires me (due to lack of storage space) to buy a higher tier plan just so I can stream the music that I own. Our data plans here more or less render "the cloud" useless.

For me, my smartphone is a replacement for both my dumb phone and my iPod. So to buy a high-end smartphone now that basically limits me from accessing all of my music wherever I am at any time is frankly a step backwards.

**Chex313** · 05-02-2012, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by Sedrick

I do not have unlimited data
I do not have a good signal where I'm at all day
I do have 20+ gigs of music I like to listen to in my car and at work.

16 gigs is NOT enough. Why the hell does HTC continue to shoot themselves in the foot like this? It's either crappy storage/no expansion or sh!tty battery. What's wrong with those people?

I was poised to jump ship from iPhone to the HTC One X (I though: "this is finally the phone!"), but then I find out about the limited storage.

Its not HTC, its the carriers, the base phone had 32GB. The carriers want us using Data so they can make more money.

For me 16GB is impossible. I'll be stuck on the iphone if Samsung doesn't stand tall. Please give us everything...we'll pay! I could make do with the 32Gb international version...I could care less about LTE. My 3G speeds average over 4Gb/2Gb. Thats plenty for me. At&t has been replacing edge diligently in the North East.

**mikemick** · 05-02-2012, 02:40 PM

16GB is enough for most people. The answer is actually pretty simple. Can you make 10GB of storage work between WiFi visits? If so, then the 16GB HTC One X has enough storage for you, if you understand how to harness the cloud.

10GB (which is about the actual storage of the device) gets you about 2000 songs, 2 full-length HD movies, and the photos you've taken over the past few weeks.

So, if you can get by with that much content between WiFi visits, then yes, 16GB HTC One X is enough for you.

If you don't know or understand Google Music pinning, Dropbox starred items and Google+ Photo Auto-upload then you should research that before making any decisions about 16GB not being enough for you.

I would say 16GB is enough for 90% of people. I would also say 16GB is enough for about 50% of people that think it isn't enough

**wrxdrunkie** · 05-02-2012, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by mikemick

16GB is enough for most people. The answer is actually pretty simple. Can you make 10GB of storage work between WiFi visits? If so, then the 16GB HTC One X has enough storage for you, if you understand how to harness the cloud.

10GB (which is about the actual storage of the device) gets you about 2000 songs, 2 full-length HD movies, and the photos you've taken over the past few weeks.

So, if you can get by with that much content between WiFi visits, then yes, 16GB HTC One X is enough for you.

If you don't know or understand Google Music pinning, Dropbox starred items and Google+ Photo Auto-upload then you should research that before making any decisions about 16GB not being enough for you.

I would say 16GB is enough for 90% of people. I would also say 16GB is enough for about 50% of people that think it isn't enough

Does the htc music hub integrate tracks from google music as if it were a folder on my computer? That would be amazing and frankly exceed my expectations (therefore you probably can't do it)

Point being its gonna be crappy if I can't use the htc music app because I use google music. They need to be integrated and not app silos. I know you can probably launch the google music app from the htc music hub but I am hoping that htc has made it so I don't have to switch apps based on the location of the music. All my music all in the htc music hub would be great. Kinda like iTunes music showing up in spotify or double twist on the computer.

**mikemick** · 05-02-2012, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by wrxdrunkie

Does the htc music hub integrate tracks from google music as if it were a folder on my computer? That would be amazing and frankly exceed my expectations (therefore you probably can't do it)

Point being its gonna be crappy if I can't use the htc music app because I use google music. They need to be integrated and not app silos. I know you can probably launch the google music app from the htc music hub but I am hoping that htc has made it so I don't have to switch apps based on the location of the music. All my music all in the htc music hub would be great. Kinda like iTunes music showing up in spotify or double twist on the computer.

I don't believe so. However, a quick Market search turned up an app called "FolderSync" that allows you to do 2-way syncing between a folder on your phone and a folder on nearly any cloud service. So, you could have a music folder on your Dropbox, and have it always stay in sync with your phone. I haven't used the program, so I can't necessarily recommend it.

**Raadius** · 05-02-2012, 03:36 PM

16GB is enough for me. I haven't even tapped the full capacity of my Evo 4G and I have lots of apps, roms, music etc. Plus I have Google Drive and 25GB of DB is icing.

**mobilityguy** · 05-02-2012, 05:07 PM

No way I buy a 16G phone. The problems with streaming data cost and access is only half the story. The carriers and cloud providers would love to have us put all our personal files in their hands. Then they can mine that data and make even more money selling our profiles to advertisers.

They make money when we store our data, they make money when we stream our data, and they make money when they read our data. Don't think for a minute that they consider us customers - we're the commodity they sell to their real customers, the advertisers, and a source of income for their stockholders. As long as we keep forking it over, they'll keep finding new ways to turn the screws even tighter so they can make more money for the people they actually care about.

**mrich70** · 05-02-2012, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by Raadius

16GB is enough for me. I haven't even tapped the full capacity of my Evo 4G and I have lots of apps, roms, music etc. Plus I have Google Drive and 25GB of DB is icing.

I have the Evo 4G as well and my problem is the internal storage. I have to delete apps to free up system storage. People complaining about 2gigs of app storage obviously don't know how good they have it.