05-25-2012 11:18 PM
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  1. varsityhacker's Avatar
    AT&T has too much traffic on the HSPA/3G network. The IPhone killed the network, AT&T underestimated the amount of traffic the IPhone would generate.
    04-26-2012 12:29 PM
  2. MattMJB0188's Avatar
    AT&T has too much traffic on the HSPA/3G network. The IPhone killed the network, AT&T underestimated the amount of traffic the IPhone would generate.
    Exactly. Hopefully with top of the line Androids on AT&T more iPhone users (like myself) will finally move over. Though I got my first iPhone in October, many with the 3GS were streaming as much as they wanted to because "they can".

    I know I'd take a lot of heat if I said this on MacRumors but its to bad they don't throttle iPhone users only lol.
    04-26-2012 12:37 PM
  3. movielover76's Avatar
    Just a theory... Maybe since after they decided that HSPA+ if 4G too, they don't want people to realize the difference between there 2 4G networks. How do you explain to a consumer telling them that HSPA+ is 4G, and LTE is 4G? I get it, but the consumer will be like, "Wuh?" So removing the option to turn off LTE removes the confusion between the two 4Gs for the average consumer.

    Then you could say that what about more tech savy users like us, we can manage ourselves. Well here's my response to you... When has AT&T ever been focused on us? (Remember blocking of side-loading?)
    They are very clear that their is two 4G's on their website just go to this link and click technology

    AT&T 4G LTE - Get 4G Speed with AT&T 4G LTE & 4G HSPA+
    04-26-2012 12:42 PM
  4. varsityhacker's Avatar
    Exactly. Hopefully with top of the line Androids on AT&T more iPhone users (like myself) will finally move over. Though I got my first iPhone in October, many with the 3GS were streaming as much as they wanted to because "they can".

    I know I'd take a lot of heat if I said this on MacRumors but its to bad they don't throttle iPhone users only lol.
    Well if you have unlimited which it doesn't sound like you do. You get 5 gb's on LTE with unlimited plan before they throttle you and only 3 gb's on 3g. That right there is a good indication of how much traffic they have on the 3g network.

    The best thing for IPhone users is for more and more people to get LTE phones. i just hope that when the next gen IPhone comes out it doesn't kill the LTE network
    04-26-2012 12:47 PM
  5. MattMJB0188's Avatar
    They are very clear that their is two 4G's on their website just go to this link and click technology

    AT&T 4G LTE - Get 4G Speed with AT&T 4G LTE & 4G HSPA+
    Still very confusing for the average consumer. I guess AT&T felt that if they called their HSPA+ 3.5G they would loose business as every other carrier was dubbing some "4G" acronym.

    I agree about the iPhone killing the network, and unfortunately we're all gonna see LTE speeds slowly decrease in time once our iPhone friends hop on.
    04-26-2012 12:48 PM
  6. varsityhacker's Avatar
    They are very clear that their is two 4G's on their website just go to this link and click technology

    AT&T 4G LTE - Get 4G Speed with AT&T 4G LTE & 4G HSPA+
    I don't care what the call the HSPA+ network it's still the 3g network. LTE is the true 4g network.
    04-26-2012 12:49 PM
  7. MattMJB0188's Avatar
    I don't care what the call the HSPA+ network it's still the 3g network. LTE is the true 4g network.
    No it isn't. LTE Advanced is "TRUE" 4G, but that's another argument lol.
    04-26-2012 12:51 PM
  8. Biopsidy's Avatar
    People are always quick to point the proverbial finger at the carrier, but you should also consider the irony to what you're asking to do and realize this is more of an OEM problem than a carrier problem.

    Irony: You bought an LTE phone and want to turn off LTE (to conserve battery life).

    If you ask me, this is misguided attention. The OEM's, such as HTC, have gotten away far too long with sending out **** poor battery life smartphones because people are willing to buy them because of how thin the phone is or the specs, completing ignoring the most important part: YOU WANT TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO USE THE FRIGGEN THING.

    Blame HTC in my opinion for releasing a device that you have to disable half the features to make it through the day. Then, blame yourself for buying a phone and wanting to disable one of the most important aspects of it.

    As a consumer, you have to realize you're contributing to the stupid trend of **** poor battery life devices because you're willing to buy hardware because it's thin and has amazing hardware, completing ignoring the fact that you can only enjoy it for a fraction of the day.

    We teach OEM's what's acceptable with our dollars. I personally hope this phone has a ridiculously huge return rate so that HTC gets the hint about battery life. I personally like their devices, but I refuse to support them any longer while they value aesthetics over function.
    04-26-2012 07:48 PM
  9. varsityhacker's Avatar
    I'm getting Great battery life just as good or maybe even better then my iPhone 4s. The phone is thin lite and sexy and the display is amazing. Thanks HTC for making a great phone.

    Singed Happy Customer
    04-26-2012 08:04 PM
  10. AndroidBlizzard's Avatar
    People are always quick to point the proverbial finger at the carrier, but you should also consider the irony to what you're asking to do and realize this is more of an OEM problem than a carrier problem.

    Irony: You bought an LTE phone and want to turn off LTE (to conserve battery life).

    If you ask me, this is misguided attention. The OEM's, such as HTC, have gotten away far too long with sending out **** poor battery life smartphones because people are willing to buy them because of how thin the phone is or the specs, completing ignoring the most important part: YOU WANT TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO USE THE FRIGGEN THING.

    Blame HTC in my opinion for releasing a device that you have to disable half the features to make it through the day. Then, blame yourself for buying a phone and wanting to disable one of the most important aspects of it.

    As a consumer, you have to realize you're contributing to the stupid trend of **** poor battery life devices because you're willing to buy hardware because it's thin and has amazing hardware, completing ignoring the fact that you can only enjoy it for a fraction of the day.

    We teach OEM's what's acceptable with our dollars. I personally hope this phone has a ridiculously huge return rate so that HTC gets the hint about battery life. I personally like their devices, but I refuse to support them any longer while they value aesthetics over function.
    It's similar to people that want to record at 480p standard, 720hd or 1080p full hd video. There should be options to change in the settings, an option to use 2G 3G or 4G should also be an option.
    04-26-2012 08:51 PM
  11. garrim85's Avatar
    @HighTechToid: I think you are missing the point man. The people complaining about this feature, or lack thereof, want to be able to switch it to 3G when they don't need 4G going. The 4G radio drains the battery faster than using 3G. Being able to turn it on when you want it, off when you don't would increase battery life. Just because it is 4G LTE capable doesn't mean it has to have the 4G radio in use at all times. The phone is capable of using 3G as well, but you can't switch to it.
    coronaboy10 likes this.
    04-27-2012 12:46 AM
  12. Zaisaroni's Avatar
    It's not Irony, it's down to two reasons causing our situation.

    1) AT&T (and VZW too) only want LTE devices from here on out. Hence why we have different SoC's in damn near every major device vs the rest of world. We want new devices, but the only relevant smartphone on AT&T without LTE is the iPhone 4s.

    2) LTE is only in select markets. I live in the Twin Cities, one of the larger Metropolitan areas, and never have trouble with AT&T signal, aside from some sporting events, always great coverage and data speed. However, I have no LTE yet. VZW has had LTE here since last year.
    05-24-2012 01:30 PM
  13. BOSSY TEXAS CHICK's Avatar
    So does this mean when LTE comes to my area (and i could care less if it NEVER gets here, i consistantly get 3-6 MBps, which is plenty if you ask me-mind u i'm coming from Sprint where 300-500 kbps was the avg) ) that i will no longer have the stellar battery life i now have with HTC One X??

    BTC
    05-24-2012 04:55 PM
  14. unopepito06's Avatar
    So does this mean when LTE comes to my area (and i could care less if it NEVER gets here, i consistantly get 3-6 MBps, which is plenty if you ask me-mind u i'm coming from Sprint where 300-500 kbps was the avg) ) that i will no longer have the stellar battery life i now have with HTC One X??

    BTC
    I'm wondering this too. If I buy and use the One X now, will my battery still be reliable once my city gets LTE? It's definitely a consideration before buying a unibody phone.
    05-25-2012 03:04 AM
  15. Fraydog's Avatar
    For most One X users it will be an issue at some point. AT&T will have LTE to 250 million POP's by the end of 2013. Most One X users will still have their devices then. That makes the battery issue pretty important.

    The good news is that the S4 is a very energy efficient chip for LTE. Good enough that the modem part of the S4, the MDM9615, is good enough to meet Fruit Company standards for energy efficiency to be placed in iPhones. I don't think it's going to be that big of a concern. I live in an area with LTE, HSPA+, and EDGE. I think the One X can work well on all those standards including LTE.
    unopepito06 likes this.
    05-25-2012 07:55 PM
  16. marcster's Avatar
    I would have thought AT&T version would have the ability to disable LTE, as I'm in Canada and have a Rogers branded HTC One X and have the ability to choose HSPA or HSPA+LTE

    anyhow, they need to release an update already with the wifi issue!
    cgardnervt likes this.
    05-25-2012 11:18 PM
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