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    Quote Originally Posted by jpb07 View Post
    Actually yes I would. Most companies handle business in a way that puts it on the infringer to **** off their customers...either pay damages or suspend shipments of the product if they don't want to pay them. What Apple has done here is like a kid running to an adult to whine because they aren't getting their way. They either don't have the balls to fight or are just using this as a sleazy tactic to hurt HTC. Once the phones are cleared I hope HTC sues the hell out of Apple for unfair business practices.

    Edit: And for the record,I would have an iPhone if it didn't have such a small screen, a draconian OS that gives the user little flexibility, and high price.
    Couldn't have said it better myself. I agree with everything--- down to the edit about the iPhone.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Droid800 View Post


    Overreacting drama queen much?


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    Looks like the delay is over, and the HOX, both versions, is cleared for entry.

    When the smoke clears you will find Apple demanded this inspection, in spite of HTC's assertion that they had removed the offending features back in December.

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    I can't help but think that HTC is baiting Apple into some type of backfire. I'll be waiting patiently for the EVO LTE. But not past July.
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    Quote Originally Posted by achacon77 View Post
    I can't help but think that HTC is baiting Apple into some type of backfire. I'll be waiting patiently for the EVO LTE. But not past July.
    That's very simular to blaming the victim game..... Would you deliberately lose customers and Money as a business to make another look bad? Is your first name Willard?


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    Quote Originally Posted by achacon77 View Post
    I can't help but think that HTC is baiting Apple into some type of backfire. I'll be waiting patiently for the EVO LTE. But not past July.
    HTC has no control over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by achacon77 View Post
    I can't help but think that HTC is baiting Apple into some type of backfire. I'll be waiting patiently for the EVO LTE. But not past July.
    I don't see HTC baiting Apple into anything with the phone line they are relying on to jump start slumping sales for a company that has seen a declining market share lately. HTC wants this phone on the market just as much if not more than all the people that pre ordered it. Any kind of stall tactic by HTC would be like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Droid800 View Post
    Way to completely ignore what I actually posted. Read it again. What apple patented did not exist, as a whole, prior to the patent. Period. There is a 'back end' to the patent that you have completely ignored. Perhaps you should go read the actual patent, and then you'll understand why it was granted. There's a reason they were granted the patent, and its a reason that seems to elude you. And here's a hint: it isn't because of some idiotic idea that the people in the patent office are gray-haired luddites that don't know anything about technology.

    YOU don't seem to like the fact that this patent was granted. That's fine. You're entitled to your opinion. But you shouldn't be casting yourself as someone that knows everything about what's being discussed. You're here, not a member of the USPTO team. I'll trust their judgement over yours, thank you very much.

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    I didn't ignore it. It just didn't tell me anything I haven't heard a hundred times before.

    You tell me how Apple pieced together existing ideas, none of which they came up with first, and made it work just like those existing ideas already worked. I understand that. I think that's insane. Patent # 5,946,647 covers the detection of certain data, e. g. email addresses and phone numbers, in text on the screen and presenting options for dealing with it. This is not a new idea. Doing it on the Newton, after it had been done on PC's, does not make it a new idea. Making it pretty does not make it a new idea.

    Taking something that already exists and editing it is basis for getting a patent. Until that changes, innovation is artificially slowed. This is what I have a problem with. Had the multi-touch patents stood in court, I'd be fine with it. Obtain proper licensing fees and move on. The "coverflow" style gallery is another good example. Apple did that first. Anyone who uses it should pay for the opportunity to use it. Patents like these OTOH, an aggregate of existing methods to parse data, should never be granted.

    I've filed for, and have been granted, several patents on behalf of my prior employer (electronic sizing and sorting related). I understand the review process, and it's shortcoming is that it's far to easy to have one granted. Blindly trusting the judgement of the USPTO, as you stated you will do, only furthers the issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Hildenbrand View Post
    I didn't ignore it. It just didn't tell me anything I haven't heard a hundred times before.

    You tell me how Apple pieced together existing ideas, none of which they came up with first, and made it work just like those existing ideas already worked. I understand that. I think that's insane. Patent # 5,946,647 covers the detection of certain data, e. g. email addresses and phone numbers, in text on the screen and presenting options for dealing with it. This is not a new idea. Doing it on the Newton, after it had been done on PC's, does not make it a new idea. Making it pretty does not make it a new idea.

    Taking something that already exists and editing it is basis for getting a patent. Until that changes, innovation is artificially slowed. This is what I have a problem with. Had the multi-touch patents stood in court, I'd be fine with it. Obtain proper licensing fees and move on. The "coverflow" style gallery is another good example. Apple did that first. Anyone who uses it should pay for the opportunity to use it. Patents like these OTOH, an aggregate of existing methods to parse data, should never be granted.

    I've filed for, and have been granted, several patents on behalf of my prior employer (electronic sizing and sorting related). I understand the review process, and it's shortcoming is that it's far to easy to have one granted. Blindly trusting the judgement of the USPTO, as you stated you will do, only furthers the issues.
    So basically, you're sticking your fingers in your ears going 'lalala I can't hear you' because others, that have a legitimate point mind you, disagree with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nth_79 View Post
    Can anyone with an HTC One X check if HTC removed the option to select an action after clicking on a linked phone number?
    See the following article for more info on how HTC thought they were going to avoid infringement of Apple's patent:
    On my international one x, tapping a phone number found in a Web Page pops the number into the dialer, waiting for you to press enter.

    That works even if the phone number is not a link in the true sense of the word.



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    All HTC or google has to do is make the context menu appear after a touch and hold action instead of tap, I don't get why that is so hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas.dre View Post
    I'm new to this forum and still an IOS user until HTC One X comes back or Galaxy S 3 comes online.

    But reading these **** & moan comments are depressing. Some folks act like Android or IOS is putting food on their table. It's a lousy phone folks. It will not solve famine in Africa or elect the next president.

    As far as the patent wars, well get use to it. The US patent system is broken and issues like this will continue to occur for the near future. Apple won this round but they are getting their teeth kicked in in other parts of the world regarding patents. Everyone is suing everyone else. Why do u think Google acquired Moto Mobility?? For its patent portfolios!!!

    Now Android vs. IOS is so 3rd grade!! If you love your Android phone then God & Google love you and if you love eating the Apple then let God & Jobs ghost enjoy it!!!

    Frankly, I an not going to use 1 millisecond of stress on fighting about which platform is better. You know which is better? Which ever phone at the time I want. I have a iPhone 4 now and so I'm eating my apple but when my HTC One X is available I will be making sweet love to my Ice Cream Sandwich. If a year from now Mango is wetting my appeitite then I'm loving me some Microsoft.

    I drive a Jeep but I don't care or judge those who drive a Chevy or Ford, I drink Pepsi but I won't insult a guy that only drinks Coca Cola. I value my time too much to worry about fanboys and fangirls. Mind your own business and spend your money on whatever dang phone u want. Stop judging folks that don't agree with your decision and move on.

    This isn't global warming or terrorism it's a funky **** phone!!!
    Well, to each his own i suppose. I'd much rather get worked up about a monkey **** phone than global warming or terrorism. AT least i can do something about that, global warming, world peace, not so much...

    But i am with you, i'll go with whoever can provide the best experience, no brand loyalty here, & i won't critisize anyone for their choices, either - (unless u opt for the "super **** ugly EVO 4G LTE"... lol j/k: )

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    Thread cleaned, Droid800 was banned, and it was based on a much longer history than just this thread. Carry on.
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    I just ordered a One X from Ebay. I hope it's brand new like the seller says. I've sold phones on Ebay but never bought one. I hadn't known about this lawsuit with Apple until recently and wondered why the phones were sold out so fast.
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    FYI. for all you One X fans, Amazon has them in stock with the price of $119.99..

    Personally I'm waiting for the GS3, but thought I'd mention it here on this forum.
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    wow if they had them for that price in stores they would sell like crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crackberrytraitor View Post
    wow if they had them for that price in stores they would sell like crazy.
    Requires a new line of service and new contract or extension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icebike View Post


    Looks like the delay is over, and the HOX, both versions, is cleared for entry.

    When the smoke clears you will find Apple demanded this inspection, in spite of HTC's assertion that they had removed the offending features back in December.

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    Here's an interesting strategic thought and process, that others are hinting on:

    --Release/announce phone in US (HTC One X, E4GLTE)

    --Send phones through customs early, expecting a hold/delay due to ITC ruling

    --Either the hold runs slightly long, or you time the announcement of the ITC hold so you can point a finger back at Apple, saying "We won't make our release date because those jerks won a lawsuit."

    --The push through Customs magically happens quickly, because it was already in progress when it was announced. HTC saves face and looks like the good guy.

    --Who loses? In the public eye, Apple. and Customs. Privately, you, but you've taken less of a hit than being completely transparent and pushing back the launch.


    Or, a fork: Sprint forces HTC's hand with pre-orders and optimistic estimates of the Customs hold. When that doesn't pan out, they're forced to backtrack. So Sprint fudged it up for everyone (surprise).

    I'm willing to bet good money HTC knew its products would face a hold at the border, and is playing it out strategically. These things don't happen all of a sudden.
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    Actually the Amazon $119.99 deal is for all types whether new or upgrades. What will be interesting is to see if the price drops further when the GS3 is released to be more competitive. I cannot imagine the price on the GS3 being under $199, even at the beginning at Amazon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by icebike View Post


    Looks like the delay is over, and the HOX, both versions, is cleared for entry.

    When the smoke clears you will find Apple demanded this inspection, in spite of HTC's assertion that they had removed the offending features back in December.

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    Apple can't demand it though. Once they won the Exclusion Order, it was taken out of their hands and put into the ITC's and Custom's. Based on what HTC's said, its likely Apple didn't even know about this until after the units had already been placed on hold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JHBThree View Post
    Apple can't demand it though. Once they won the Exclusion Order, it was taken out of their hands and put into the ITC's and Custom's. Based on what HTC's said, its likely Apple didn't even know about this until after the units had already been placed on hold.
    Good luck with that. You won't change anyone's mind about scope of Apple's involvement. Because HTC lost to Apple, most will simply assume Apple had some sort of pull with US Customs and the USITC to block the HTC devices.

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    Question is......Are the first waves of One X and One S,s that made it thru before
    the lock down at customs the super phones? Since all the others have been sabotaged/Appletaged.
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    I was lucky that there was one left at my ATT store. The lady even tried to sell it to me before I decided to get the Lumia 900. That was a huge mistake so I came right back in the next day and picked it up.
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    I'm hoping they come back in stock quickly. I have the white One X, and the thing picks up stains so quickly that it's just unbearable.

    I want to exchange it for a black one before my 30 days is up next week.

    by the way - no 32GB version available on ATT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ggabriele3 View Post
    I'm hoping they come back in stock quickly. I have the white One X, and the thing picks up stains so quickly that it's just unbearable.

    I want to exchange it for a black one before my 30 days is up next week.

    by the way - no 32GB version available on ATT?
    Two of my local best buys had black ones in stock this past weekend. Did you get yours at AT&T?
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