Multitasking

**Jerry Hildenbrand** · 05-16-2012, 03:45 PM

Required reading
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-sp...ory-management

It ain't broke -- it's "gimped" by design. Welcome to open-source ladies and gents.

**Shepx13** · 05-16-2012, 04:27 PM

Well. Guess I won't be picking up a replacement one after all.

**gruppe3942#AC** · 05-16-2012, 04:42 PM

Hey guys,

I am on sprint network and I have the Htc Evo on pre-order. I just found out about this multitasking issue. How bad is it really? Some say that if you are doing one thing and you go to answer a txt that it closes down what you are doing before? Is it really that bad?

**sniffs** · 05-16-2012, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by gruppe3942

Hey guys,

I am on sprint network and I have the Htc Evo on pre-order. I just found out about this multitasking issue. How bad is it really? Some say that if you are doing one thing and you go to answer a txt that it closes down what you are doing before? Is it really that bad?

Pretty much, yes.. but the simple solution to THIS specific issue, is to use SMS Popup. It allows you to send quick replies. The "popup" appears ontop of whatever app you're in.. if you quick reply, it sends the text and it never actually leaves your current running app. It works WONDERS.

**sniffs** · 05-16-2012, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by Jerry Hildenbrand

Required reading
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-sp...ory-management

It ain't broke -- it's "gimped" by design. Welcome to open-source ladies and gents.

I'm not that annoyed by this bug. It's not affected me yet.

What I am worried about is background services and push notifications. If I load up Voxer, will I still receive messages after I exit the app?

How does this memory situation effect background services/push notification services? I mean, with some people mentioning GTALK is closing, this is VERY troubling

**say anything** · 05-16-2012, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by gruppe3942

Hey guys,

I am on sprint network and I have the Htc Evo on pre-order. I just found out about this multitasking issue. How bad is it really? Some say that if you are doing one thing and you go to answer a txt that it closes down what you are doing before? Is it really that bad?

yesterday, while waiting in my dentist's office, i was in the middle of a long-winded facebook comment when i jumped into the browser to grab a web address (from an already open page) to paste at the end of the comment. when i went back to facebook, my newsfeed was reloaded and i had to start the comment over.

**live4nyy** · 05-16-2012, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by maxbemis

yesterday, while waiting in my dentist's office, i was in the middle of a long-winded facebook comment when i jumped into the browser to grab a web address (from an already open page) to paste at the end of the comment. when i went back to facebook, my newsfeed was reloaded and i had to start the comment over.

Lesson learned, no more "long-winded" comments, those are the worst.

I keed, I keed.

**Sailindawg** · 05-16-2012, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by maxbemis

yesterday, while waiting in my dentist's office, i was in the middle of a long-winded facebook comment when i jumped into the browser to grab a web address (from an already open page) to paste at the end of the comment. when i went back to facebook, my newsfeed was reloaded and i had to start the comment over.

Wow, that's annoying. That is one thing that I can do with my ip4 that I find very helpful. Leaving an email or text, opening another app to retrieve specific info, cut, then go back to my original text/email and paste.

The One X can't do this because HTC wrote it out of ICS!? That's a real deal breaker. I see my phone as my portable pc. I like the ability to drag/drop files, unlike the ip4, which unless you have an app that allows the ip4 to be used as an FTP server, there is no way to add files other than through iTunes.

Any chance that true multitasking could be brought back with a custom ROM for this phone?

**gruppe3942#AC** · 05-16-2012, 05:28 PM

I guess the question is....should this cause me to look at another device?

**say anything** · 05-16-2012, 05:43 PM

that's entirely up to you.

**gruppe3942#AC** · 05-16-2012, 06:15 PM

I know it's up to me. But you have used the device. Would it change your decision if you had the opportunity to make it over again

**sniffs** · 05-16-2012, 06:28 PM

I would still purchase it. It's a very sleek, sexy looking device.

When the Galaxy S3 hits, it'll have the SAME Krait S4 SoC inside so the only difference between the One X and the SIII will be the physical design, and whether or not you can stomach TouchWiz or stomach Sense 4.

As of right now, Sense 4 is very elegant and well designed and looks like it has Jony Ive all over it... Touchwiz looks like it was thrown together by some construction workers using crayons..

**calvin35** · 05-16-2012, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by maxbemis

yesterday, while waiting in my dentist's office, i was in the middle of a long-winded facebook comment when i jumped into the browser to grab a web address (from an already open page) to paste at the end of the comment. when i went back to facebook, my newsfeed was reloaded and i had to start the comment over.

A perfect example of why I went back to my Vivid and will never buy another HTC phone as long as they continue to handle multitasking this way.

**Google10** · 05-16-2012, 07:18 PM

Want to open a YouTube video and let it load while you do something else? Nope, as far as I can see. That and the reloading of web pages when you head back to the browser are a couple of the things starting to really bother me.

**Krasin** · 05-16-2012, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by Sailindawg

Wow, that's annoying. That is one thing that I can do with my ip4 that I find very helpful. Leaving an email or text, opening another app to retrieve specific info, cut, then go back to my original text/email and paste.

The One X can't do this because HTC wrote it out of ICS!? That's a real deal breaker. I see my phone as my portable pc. I like the ability to drag/drop files, unlike the ip4, which unless you have an app that allows the ip4 to be used as an FTP server, there is no way to add files other than through iTunes.

Any chance that true multitasking could be brought back with a custom ROM for this phone?

Absolutely. Custom ROMs can change anything about the system. Find an AOSP version and it'll work as intended (whenever someone makes one that is)

**gruppe3942#AC** · 05-16-2012, 07:41 PM

Does it reload your we page even if that's the only program you have open?

**Google10** · 05-16-2012, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by gruppe3942

Does it reload your we page even if that's the only program you have open?

This seems to work fine, but that isn't multitasking in the literal sense of the word... I'm messing between Twitter and Chrome and it's hard to find any rhyme or reason in what causes it to reload.

**Sailindawg** · 05-16-2012, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by Krasin

Absolutely. Custom ROMs can change anything about the system. Find an AOSP version and it'll work as intended (whenever someone makes one that is)

That's good to hear, but the ATT has a locked boot loader and they will probably keep it that way. I know that one can root the One X (ATT model included). Time will tell if someone writes that killer rom that brings back true multitasking. I'll be sitting on the sidelines for a while watching. Shame HTC gimped ICS, damn nice hard ware too. Looks I'll be keeping my stodgy ip4 a bit longer.

**calvin35** · 05-16-2012, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by gruppe3942

Does it reload your we page even if that's the only program you have open?

It did for me.

**davep1982** · 05-16-2012, 09:11 PM

it's working as intended according to HTC. They wrote in a hyper aggressive memory management system in order for sense to operate more smoothly.

**Saneless** · 05-16-2012, 11:12 PM

I was going to pre order an EVO lte tomorrow but I won't bother until I read that this issue is completely fixed. If it's by design, the design blows

**davep1982** · 05-16-2012, 11:18 PM

You won't be able to. They're stuck at customs until they resolve the apple patent infringement. And according to the recent posts by Android Central and engadget it is by design. From HTC itself.

**calvin35** · 05-17-2012, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by gruppe3942

Hey guys,

I am on sprint network and I have the Htc Evo on pre-order. I just found out about this multitasking issue. How bad is it really? Some say that if you are doing one thing and you go to answer a txt that it closes down what you are doing before? Is it really that bad?

The EVO will be 3G phone only for a while. You definitely will not want things to have to reload.

**neoenigma** · 05-17-2012, 10:02 AM

Welcome to open source... where we gimp core features of the platform and then reviewers conveniently leave out those bits to mislead everyone into thinking it's working fine!

I'm glad to see so many people in here deciding not to get the phone based on this. Hit HTC where it hurts - their wallets. They need to know how bad of a decision this was so they don't make it again.

**gravage** · 05-17-2012, 11:26 PM

It's a joke that not a single reviewer caught this before release day. They were in such a hurry to push out reviews that they didn't even use the phone. Oh, they covered the hardware and camera and screen and even Sense, but I fail to see how they couldn't have noticed this if they used the phone at all.

I bought it on release day. I was excited. Now I'm pissed and taking it back. It's completely unusable for me in its current state. Especially after going back to my Galaxy Nexus and experiencing true multitasking again. Hell, even my Windows Phone and iPhone do a better job of letting you switch between apps.

This phone had so much potential and this one little design flaw ruined the entire experience. I suppose HTC could reneg and release a software update later, but since they seem to be sticking to their guns, I'm not taking chances. I may consider buying it again if/when HTC comes to their senses, but it's not likely.

The worst part is, I see people claiming it's fine and that they don't mind. This is a modern smartphone. There's no excuse for multitasking to be this bad. Even if you think you don't multitask much, you're in for a real treat when you try to stream music in the background or use the calculator while you're in your banking app. How did this make it past quality control? Who decided that this was okay? Did someone at HTC think, "well, a lot of people bought the iPhone with iOS 3.0 on it, so they'll be fine with this"?

That's my rant. I'm so frustrated and annoyed that I have to take this phone back. The reviews made it out to be the best Android phone ever and it had so much potential. I shouldn't have to hack it and put a custom rom on it to make it function correctly.