[StoneRyno]

I'm not sure it's just this device. My one biggest negative for android is the reload problem. If I loaded a page in the browser stock or 3rd party when I return to that browser the page should already be loaded and instantly on my screen. It should not be loading it again from cache or from the URL. It doesn't do that on my PC or on webOS, but it does that on android because some programmers thought it was a good idea to kill apps or parts of the apps content you want to keep open. The browser is not the only app afflicted with this problem. Mint doesn't remain open at all. I discovered this since I need to switch between it and a couple other things when working with my finances and after tapping home and going to my other app(s) and then tapping on mint I'm back at the original view and have to navigate to where I was at before switching away. There are other examples as well that I can't recall offhand as they are for apps I use far less. I'm using a samsung epic (the one with the HW KB). There is plenty of RAM to run the few apps at a time I need to have remain running so it is a design problem and not a lack of RAM.

[snoopgoat]

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I'd strongly advise you eBay your device and get something else. You obviously hate it.

Yep. I'm gonna do that. You know anyone looking to buy one?

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[corydorcutt]

Yep. I'm gonna do that. You know anyone looking to buy one?

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Mail it to me and I'll root it, unlock it, OC it to 1.8ghz and flash it with CM9. Gimme 50 bucks for my trouble. It'll cost you less than ebaying/buying an S3.

[npaladin-2000]

Yep. I'm gonna do that. You know anyone looking to buy one?

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Tempting, but I usually like my alternate phone to be different from my primary.

[snoopgoat]

Mail it to me and I'll root it, unlock it, OC it to 1.8ghz and flash it with CM9. Gimme 50 bucks for my trouble. It'll cost you less than ebaying/buying an S3.

Is CM9 working perfectly on the HOX?

[Chema Martin]

Very good answers, npaladin2000

Anyways, whoever spoke of "it´s just a phone"?... I know I didn´t and my argument wasn´t even close. What I am saying is that, judging from what I am reading, the extent of the problem is:

1.- That people see app refreshes
2.- That returning to an open application may not take the user exactly where s/he left off.

...So what? Is that such big a deal that justifies all the whining, demeaning and insulting?

All I am saying is that things should be put into perspective and if this is indeed a problem (again, I don´t have it and it appears I am not alone), then I think it shoud be put in context with all the phone has to offer, not just "the phone sucks and HTC sucks even more".

I have seen a number of descriptions of this problem and a number of ways to reproduce it. I have tried all I have found and have never been able to, not once. Every time I return to an open application, it is exactly where I left it, be it a game, the stock web browser or other apps like Pocket, etc. When I bring one app from the background, it does take the blink of an eye to paint it after the animation finishes, but if that is a problem, well, I would stress my initial argument even further.

That said, I have ALWAYS had issues with multitasking, in every environment I have worked with, perhaps with the exception of Unix/Linux command line. Filling in a web form to come back later and see that I lost my input? You name the OS, I have seen it. How about exception handling errors, crashes, freezes, etc?... I don´t know, reading some of the comments in here, it feels like people are seeing errors for the first time on the One X while their (sensibly more expensive) PCs never failed once?...

People, this is a very advanced device which is way more than a phone and yes, it is expensive... So? If anybody can point me to a faultless operating system, even if it is 10 times as expensive and 10 times as old as Android, they deserve a prize. With that, I don´t mean we have to go with anything HTC throws at us, of course not, but I kinda get the feeling that this issue is probably not that significant if we can´t even reproduce it consistently among a few enthusiasts.

If one thing is true for sure is that nothing is perfect. The behavior around multitasking in a SGS3 or an iPhone4S may be more like what some people here want to see, but in turn they will get other things that are not as good. From there on, anybody´s free to waste money as they please, of course.

[corydorcutt]

Is CM9 working perfectly on the HOX?

Everything but video recording, and that should be fixed in the next week or two. Already on the 3rd revision.

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[snoopgoat]

Everything but video recording, and that should be fixed in the next week or two...

Nice. I'll check it out. I can live without the camcorder functionality (for now). How's the menu button thingy handled? Are the buttons re-mapped? I may have a couple other questions for you, since I'm an android noob (ex-webOS user). PM okay?

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[crxssi]

You know, the way everyone is talking, they'd better not hope this is an ICS thing, or it'll show up on the GS3 too.

It's not an ICS thing, because I have been running ICS on my stock, Nexus Xoom tablet for several months and it doesn't behave like the One X/Evo LTE.

[crxssi]

Another setting that might help is changing the Background Process Limit in the Developer Options settings screen. By default it is set to "Standard Limit" but the UI allows you to choose between 0 and 4. I am not sure exactly how changing this value impacts the multitasking, but perhaps someone smarter than me knows. Personally, I didn't notice much of a difference. I'm trying to use Firefox now as my default browser to see if that makes any difference

That option either makes no difference or makes multitasking *worse*. It is a special developer option for testing software and has zero value for normal users or regular use.

[corydorcutt]

Nice. I'll check it out. I can live without the camcorder functionality (for now). How's the menu button thingy handled? Are the buttons re-mapped? I may have a couple other questions for you, since I'm an android noob (ex-webOS user). PM okay?

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Yeah, no problem throw me a PM if you need help. I'm a noob to android too and figured it out fine. Buttons are remaped to the physical One X buttons.

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[rdxhd]

The best thing you can do is get a third party launcher like Nova, then freeze or delete the Sense launcher and anything Sense you don't want with Titanium.

How do you freeze sense with titanium? I don't want to delete it just freeze it.

[snoopgoat]

Wow. I finally got CM9 up and running on my HOX. Suddenly, I don't feel like throwing away this device. Pure ics is a breath of fresh air. It should be a crime to bastardize it with sense or Touchwiz...

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[xXBLACKBERRYXx5]

I have thought about this myself. I certainly wouldn't put it past at&t. What I find odd is that I have seen some posts stating that the at&t One X is actually worse at multitasking than both the international version and the Evo 4G LTE. In any event I've been done with the One X for about two weeks now and have had a much more pleasant android experience on my Vivid as I wait for the SIII.

That's funny because I had a terrible experience with my vivid and traded it in for the one x and am very much happier now lol. To each their own I suppose.

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[corydorcutt]

Wow. I finally got CM9 up and running on my HOX. Suddenly, I don't feel like throwing away this device. Pure ics is a breath of fresh air. It should be a crime to bastardize it with sense or Touchwiz...

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I could not agree with you more sir! The manufacturers variant bastards just ruin hardware.

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[corydorcutt]

I could not agree with you more sir! The manufacturers variant bastards just ruin hardware.

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[StoneRyno]

judging from what I am reading, the extent of the problem is:

1.- That people see app refreshes
2.- That returning to an open application may not take the user exactly where s/he left off.

<snip>

I have seen a number of descriptions of this problem and a number of ways to reproduce it. I have tried all I have found and have never been able to, not once. Every time I return to an open application, it is exactly where I left it, be it a game, the stock web browser or other apps like Pocket, etc. When I bring one app from the background, it does take the blink of an eye to paint it after the animation finishes, but if that is a problem, well, I would stress my initial argument even further.

I know this is a thread for this issue on HTC One X but the topic caught my eye and was relevant to the exact same problem with the samsung epic even with customs ROMs including CM9. Since you say you don't have the problem there must be something different between you (and those who don't have the problem) and those who do. It takes the browser sometimes 30 sec to 1 min to refresh which is why I know it's not just a redraw in my case. And I for one would like to know what is different so that I can take steps to stop it from happening. When you switch between apps and much as someone like me these little annoyances get quite frustrating.

For example today I needed to run some math on dollar amounts in the mint app. Switching to the calculator and then back to mint and having to tap several times and then scroll down to get back to where I was and repeat that a dozen times to complete the calculations. Now tell me you wouldn't hop on here an be one of the complainers. It was so bad I grabbed my brothers smartphone use it's calculator so I could keep mint on the screen so that I wouldn't have to keep re-navigating to where I left off. So please if you have any solution to share with us to correct these two problems I'd love to know what it is. So that I can finally after more than a year putting up with it can finally smash the only thing that makes me loath the OS.

Wow. I finally got CM9 up and running on my HOX. Suddenly, I don't feel like throwing away this device. Pure ics is a breath of fresh air. It should be a crime to bastardize it with sense or Touchwiz...

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I too like the look and feel of not just ICS but it in CM9. I'd have to use an HTC or samsung ICS device in order to get a comparative feel. I do know that on my samsung epic (stock GB) there were quite a few things I didn't like about the TW apps that samsung used to replace the stock google android apps. I still miss cards on webOS as it was the easiest and fastest way for me to multitask. ICS recently used apps is an ok replacement of that but not quite as quick since you have to hold the home to access it. If I can just get rid of the above mentioned problem then it'll be a much better multitasking experience.

[Chema Martin]

I know this is a thread for this issue on HTC One X but the topic caught my eye and was relevant to the exact same problem with the samsung epic even with customs ROMs including CM9. Since you say you don't have the problem there must be something different between you (and those who don't have the problem) and those who do. It takes the browser sometimes 30 sec to 1 min to refresh which is why I know it's not just a redraw in my case. And I for one would like to know what is different so that I can take steps to stop it from happening. When you switch between apps and much as someone like me these little annoyances get quite frustrating.

For example today I needed to run some math on dollar amounts in the mint app. Switching to the calculator and then back to mint and having to tap several times and then scroll down to get back to where I was and repeat that a dozen times to complete the calculations. Now tell me you wouldn't hop on here an be one of the complainers. It was so bad I grabbed my brothers smartphone use it's calculator so I could keep mint on the screen so that I wouldn't have to keep re-navigating to where I left off. So please if you have any solution to share with us to correct these two problems I'd love to know what it is. So that I can finally after more than a year putting up with it can finally smash the only thing that makes me loath the OS.

I don't know, man, I just don't have those issues... I don't use mint, but I tried a similar test with an app I use, Springpad (creating a note in which I add a number of different calculation results in a single notebook, making sure I was creating a long enough note so that I would have to scroll up and down to enter data). I would complete calculations and then copy results and paste them in the Springpad note I had oppened, and the application was always right were I left it, no need to scroll up or down.

Anyways, which version of the One X are you on? I kinda get the feeling like the problem is more acute in US models, perhaps due to a carrier faulty setup?

[StoneRyno]

and the application was always right were I left it, no need to scroll up or down.

Anyways, which version of the One X are you on? I kinda get the feeling like the problem is more acute in US models, perhaps due to a carrier faulty setup?

I don't have a one X but since my experience on the samsung epic was identical to the OP and some of the replies I figured I would contribute to the discussion that it was happening on at least one other device. It's not all apps that aren't at where you left them when you return to the app. Browsers stock and 3rd party force refresh the page when returning to it. Defeats the purpose of switching away to work with another app while the page loads. Youtube won't buffer while it is in the background. And if you had completely buffered a video and had to pause it to put your device down or take a call or work with another app for a moment and then return to it you have to re-buffer from where you left off. I looked through all my apps and without playing with all 212 apps I can't recall which other ones had the two issues.

Sometimes if you open a lot of apps the first app or two you used the OS ends the task if RAM got too low. And you will have to renavigate upon going back to the app. With a PC or webOS for example you would just get a message you have too much stuff running to open another app. Rectified with some user tweaking so that the message is avoidable under those circumstances and still be able to have that many apps open. Most of the time that isn't an issue unless you need to have a lot of apps stay open. I'm sure the one X has significantly more RAM than the epic so this is probably happens even rarer than on the epic.