HTC's Savior?

[Ry]

With dumb HTC fanboys bashing Samsung and ignoring the shortcomings of their own pppreciousss, no wonder HTC can't be saved.

Things I would change immediately about the new HTC One:

1. Make it 5". Everyone else is moving on to this size. With thinner bezels, they are the new 4.7" phones. The Butterfly doesn't count. It's half-hearted.
2. Put a bigger sensor and up your camera back to 8MP. With Ultrapixels.
3. Your video capture still sucks. Why does it still look like a really bad porno?
4. Remove the stupid blinkfeed or turn it into a smaller widget that's off to the side. I like the new sense look but it's being shortchanged by that stupid feed and losing focus.

Yes. THAT WILL SOLVE EVERYTHING! lol

 

[xlDeMoNiClx]

Samsung has done a good job, so I give them plenty of credit. But as far as htc just seems like they are just doing the same thing again. If they want this thing to sell, they better market it like crazy, and directly attack Samsung. As far as the minority, right now only the minority is taking notice, the GP currently don't know it exists, and still won't at launch unless they market it.

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I mean the people you call "galaxy sheep."

 

[Love Divine]

With dumb HTC fanboys bashing Samsung and ignoring the shortcomings of their own pppreciousss, no wonder HTC can't be saved.

Things I would change immediately about the new HTC One:

1. Make it 5". Everyone else is moving on to this size. With thinner bezels, they are the new 4.7" phones. The Butterfly doesn't count. It's half-hearted.
2. Put a bigger sensor and up your camera back to 8MP. With Ultrapixels.
3. Your video capture still sucks. Why does it still look like a really bad porno?
4. Remove the stupid blinkfeed or turn it into a smaller widget that's off to the side. I like the new sense look but it's being shortchanged by that stupid feed and losing focus.

Nope.

You haven't seen the camera yet. The video capture/camera performance was more or less identical on the One X/GS III/Note II.

And you're missing the point. If they fail, they won't fail because of .3" in screen size or .05 inches in bezel. Marketing, marketing, marketing. That's it. Look past Android forum geeks. Average users don't care about those minute, minute differences.

 

[Paul627g]

I know we're all excited and live to debate, compare and discuss but let's not take things to a personal level against other members.

The device was just officially announced today. Very few people have had actual limited hands on with the device and we don't even have official specs on anything related to Samsung's next release so let's be realistic everyone.

Thanks & have fun

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[cormaster628]

I mean the people you call "galaxy sheep."

I didn't mean all galaxy s3 owners, I was just talking about your general public, the people who had to have a razr, then moved on to iphones. The people you ask if they got jelly bean yet and they give you a weird look.

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[droidmyme]

Are you saying that NOBODY bought the S3 or the Note 2 because of features like multi Window, popup video, smart stay, photo share, S-beam... Etc?

You are right to say that HTC needs to market the phone properly. And that Samsung's success in the last year has been because of their marketing, but the main reason that Samsung's marketing campaign worked in the first place is that it showcased these very features that you claim people don't care for.

No, I guess not. However, I wouldn't give much, if any, credit to the manufacturers "3rd party" UI. All that is is basically an overlay on top of Android, right? I actually (sadly) haven't heard of "Multi Window" (because I hate Samsung and refuse to buy their products). It sounds like a multitasking OS function?

To be sure, Samsung can add some functionality to Android that some may find appealing. But I seriously doubt that is the reason why the Note or the S3 are popular. When I see the comments, it's a lot of "ooh, shiny new toy I want." Just sayin.

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[Habiib]

With dumb HTC fanboys bashing Samsung and ignoring the shortcomings of their own pppreciousss, no wonder HTC can't be saved.

Things I would change immediately about the new HTC One:

1. Make it 5". Everyone else is moving on to this size. With thinner bezels, they are the new 4.7" phones. The Butterfly doesn't count. It's half-hearted.
2. Put a bigger sensor and up your camera back to 8MP. With Ultrapixels.
3. Your video capture still sucks. Why does it still look like a really bad porno?
4. Remove the stupid blinkfeed or turn it into a smaller widget that's off to the side. I like the new sense look but it's being shortchanged by that stupid feed and losing focus.

HTC fanboys hold the destiny of HTC Corporation in their hands? You say make it 5", but the Butterfly (which is 5") doesn't count because it is half-hearted according to you. A 5" phone is only truly 5", when it's not an HTC. If the next Galaxy is 4.99" as rumored, will that be a nogo also?

 

[NoYankees44]

No, I guess not. However, I wouldn't give much, if any, credit to the manufacturers "3rd party" UI. All that is is basically an overlay on top of Android, right? I actually (sadly) haven't heard of "Multi Window" (because I hate Samsung and refuse to buy their products). It sounds like a multitasking OS function?

To be sure, Samsung can add some functionality to Android that some may find appealing. But I seriously doubt that is the reason why the Note or the S3 are popular. When I see the comments, it's a lot of "ooh, shiny new toy I want." Just sayin.

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Most people dont even know what android is. The closest thing they can identify is "Droid." If everyone put nothing but stock android, there would be so little differentiation that there would be no reason for anyone but google to make phones. And last time i checked, Google was not exactly pushing the envelope on stock android or putting out a bunch of super competitive devices meant for the mass market every year. Feature-wise stock is usually behind the skins. This is because this is what google wants. They want the oems to use android as a base and compete with each other. This mean better devices and more over all market share for android. Android is the skeleton, skins are the meat on the bone that people actually see and identify.

Plus if it were not for manufacture skins, Android would have less than half the features and advancements it has today. There i said it.

 

[droidmyme]

Thanks NoYankees.

Interesting, I had it conceived as just the opposite: Google was on the cutting edge, doing the innovation, making more features, etc, and the manufacturers were the "bad guys" messing up the pureness. Well, that may have been true in the beginning. But with Sense and TW, there's been so much progress, it really has had the effect you mentioned: the 3rd party creating something custom and innovative.

I think this issue is one of those subjects that can be obtuse, and I'll tell you why: people tend to lump the manufacturers overlay together with the carriers bloatware. They say things like "I rooted because Sense had all this garbage installed." well, that actually wasn't Sense, it was Verizon, or AT&T, or whoever. You get the picture.

That's just my opinion.

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[jroc]

I dont know if its a savior or not....but the One X....if I could have I woulda got that. If I could get this I would.

And.....I dont really like HTC phones...

I am seriously thinking about getting a plan with AT&T. HTC and Samsung has got my attention the past year. I swore off both after the G Nex and Rezound. The One X and GS3 got my attention. Moto still gets first preference tho...

And for the benchmark fiends....the One has some nice scores....if you are into that type of thing.

 

[xlDeMoNiClx]

Thanks NoYankees.

Interesting, I had it conceived as just the opposite: Google was on the cutting edge, doing the innovation, making more features, etc, and the manufacturers were the "bad guys" messing up the pureness. Well, that may have been true in the beginning. But with Sense and TW, there's been so much progress, it really has had the effect you mentioned: the 3rd party creating something custom and innovative.

I think this issue is one of those subjects that can be obtuse, and I'll tell you why: people tend to lump the manufacturers overlay together with the carriers bloatware. They say things like "I rooted because Sense had all this garbage installed." well, that actually wasn't Sense, it was Verizon, or AT&T, or whoever. You get the picture.

That's just my opinion.

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No innovation or cutting-edge tech can save people from being ignorant.

 

[droidmyme]

No innovation or cutting-edge tech can save people from being ignorant.

True that.

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[Gamer_Radar]

I had a one x... The software was horrible!!!! Constant crashes...

So I bought a galaxy s3. Sadly that was way over hyped and wound up buying a nexus 4..

It totally buy this one.... It's a killer phone, the new sense ui is awesome and the best overlay on android IMO... And I miss my camera on it...

Sadly there's that Samsung brand and galaxy brand to hurdle over... People just want that brand just like they hurray want an iPhone...

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[cormaster628]

I haven't used sense 4 extensively but I hated sense 3.6 on my vivid. Lots of reasons like every app that wasn't a sense app ran slow, themeing clashed bad with the holo themeing, overscroll glow and crt off animations were disabled, voice dialer was straight missing, couldn't switch launchers because the lockscreen shortcuts were tied to the bar and it would run anyway. android was "upgrading" every boot, thus making your boot time take way too long, see overall I felt like sense was in the way of ics, it didn't compliment it, and overall hindered the experience. So I gotta ask HOX owners does 4 seem better, because my first impressions of sense on both my flyer tablet and vivid are pretty poor.

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[odd1ne]

People bash HTC for not doing updates quick but according to this article I was reading recently they are the quickest.

Which Android manufacturer is the fastest to update its devices? Which carrier?

Ironic huh cause I always thought they where slowest, since my good ol desire never got past 2.2

 

[Kevin OQuinn]

Lulz at people saying Touchwiz is "less" obtrusive than Sense.

IMO Sense at least keeps to Holo standards sometimes. When I pick up an S3 I don't even feel like I'm using Android.

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[Paul627g]

Lulz at people saying Touchwiz is "less" obtrusive than Sense

I'm not sure about Sense but I can agree Touchwiz was in the past and is even more now heavily themed/customized over a stock Android experience.

Not that it doesn't look good or work but its far from Pure Google in any way.

 

[Kevin OQuinn]

I'm not sure about Sense but I can agree Touchwiz was in the past and is even more now heavily themed/customized over a stock Android experience.

Not that it doesn't look good or work but its far from Pure Google in any way.

My point being that both companies make substantial changes to Android and the underlying framework, with HTC at least keeping SOME Holo elements. I can tell I'm still using Android with a Sense 4 device.

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[Kevin OQuinn]

And to be fair, using a replacement launcher with Sense takes away most of the stuff people don't like about it.

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[cormaster628]

Updating to the newest version of android wouldn't be my concern so much as the little updates these manufacturers ignore. See my vivid was a great phone on gingerbread but ics brought a plethora of bugs that were never addressed. Reality is with a skinned version of android you may not need the newest version of android, as you may already have most of the features anyway, I mean I wouldn't be surprised if most OEM's just skip out on 4.2 since the biggest changes only affect the core apps anyway, but they shouldn't give up on their products. Release the update and then patch it till its perfect. That doesn't seem too much to ask, yet in my experience HTC fails to do that. I'm speaking from a pure stock experience too, I know you can fix alot of stuff yourself by rooting, but majority of the population don't even know what that is nor are they willing to do it

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