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    So what does everyone think about the One now that it is Official? Is it the savior htc or another unappreciated one X?

    My personal opinion is that i think it will be a better appreciated one X, but not the market dominating device they were hoping for. Advertising will be very key. They really need to push the screen. The single fatal flaw of Samsung is their plastic build materials and screen. Both of these are something that htc has destroyed them in. I would even say that the screen and build of the One will destroy the S4. This is a fact less base, but i believe that it will be true since Samsung has shown no signs of fixing these...

    Sadly though, build and screen don't sell phones in this world like they should, and the S4 is already a guarantied success and the over hyped X phone will probably be too, whether they are inferior or not.

    Also, i see the same tards cluttering up the tech sites with no removable battery or SD comments as well as the obligatory "IT SUX CUZ ITZ NOT STOCK ANDROID" comments. I guess these are sadly necessary in the android world we live in

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoYankees44 View Post
    So what does everyone think about the One now that it is Official? Is it the savior htc or another unappreciated one X?

    My personal opinion is that i think it will be a better appreciated one X, but not the market dominating device they were hoping for. Advertising will be very key. They really need to push the screen. The single fatal flaw of Samsung is their plastic build materials and screen. Both of these are something that htc has destroyed them in. I would even say that the screen and build of the One will destroy the S4. This is a fact less base, but i believe that it will be true since Samsung has shown no signs of fixing these...

    Sadly though, build and screen don't sell phones in this world like they should, and the S4 is already a guarantied success and the over hyped X phone will probably be too, whether they are inferior or not.

    Also, i see the same tards cluttering up the tech sites with no removable battery or SD comments as well as the obligatory "IT SUX CUZ ITZ NOT STOCK ANDROID" comments. I guess these are sadly necessary in the android world we live in

    What do you think this phone will do for HTC?
    There wasn't much "wrong" with last year's One X, S, and V but getting the One on as many carriers as possible is a huge win. Unified marketing will help them. It's all going to come down to advertising when it's all said and done. No one will buy it if they don't know about it.
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    Not if there many users out there like me around. I've owned a few HTC devices in the past but the One X will be my last.

    While the device itself is fine, HTC's nonsense with Jelly Bean and the CID lockdowns was utter crap. Especially since I had already unlocked my device via HTCDev. If I wanted to be locked down again I would have bought a iPhone!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry View Post
    There wasn't much "wrong" with last year's One X, S, and V but getting the One on as many carriers as possible is a huge win. Unified marketing will help them. It's all going to come down to advertising when it's all said and done. No one will buy it if they don't know about it.
    This is very true. No verizon is a big bummer though. In my area verizon is king. I have still yet to see a one x in the wild it is so bad. I probably wont wee this phone in person for months and months. If the rest of the country is like where i live, no verizon will kill it alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredaroony#AC View Post
    Not if there many users out there like me around. I've owned a few HTC devices in the past but the One X will be my last.

    While the device itself is fine, HTC's nonsense with Jelly Bean and the CID lockdowns was utter crap. Especially since I had already unlocked my device via HTCDev. If I wanted to be locked down again I would have bought a iPhone!
    That's totally fine. Users like you are the minority. The "normals" and their buying power don't care about those details.
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    You are probably correct but I also buy a new phone every 3-4 months when I get bored but HTC wont be getting any of that now. You only have to go into forums like XDA to see many others with the same opinion.
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    No, something hardware wise will end up being wrong with it, just like the wifi issue on the One X. I'm curious to see how it's radios will perform with an all aluminum unibody design. Even Apple used a combination of Glass and aluminum on the iPhone 5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredaroony#AC View Post
    You are probably correct but I also buy a new phone every 3-4 months when I get bored but HTC wont be getting any of that now. You only have to go into forums like XDA to see many others with the same opinion.
    Again, I'm not saying people like you don't exist. I'm just saying in the grand scheme of things, those communities are the minority.
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    After seeing some of the hands on I almost feel that HTC has moved FURTHER away from success. While the hardware looks amazing, I think they did the exact opposite of what they should have done with Sense. Where Samsung has succeeded with their ugly nature UX is making it a compliment to Android. All the extra features, other than the visual aspects of it, can be pushed aside. If you got a replacement home launcher you could basically be running a stock look and feel but still getting all of those Samsung add ons that give you the added value and differentiation. HTC still seems convinced that how they feel a phone should be used is the way an HTC phone will used. Im not going to harp on it, but I will mention it. HTC left the stupid battery saving toggle in the notification draw. Who likes that? What engineer at HTC got their way and had that in there? I will absolutely check this phone out, but I am not nearly as excited as I was at 8 am this morning.

    And I have to say, no wireless charging is a big letdown. This is a feature I was looking forward to in my next smartphone.
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    Put it to you bluntly: if I don't see HTC One commercials saturating the airwaves, and attacking Galaxy products for their plastic construction and display, HTC doesn't stand a chance. There is nothing that makes Samsung superior to HTC except advertising, and HTC needs to start swinging back - NOW. If they don't pull out the heavy guns and bash Samsung with everything they have, I won't feel the least bit sorry when they slide down the tubes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by droidmyme View Post
    Put it to you bluntly: if I don't see HTC One commercials saturating the airwaves, and attacking Galaxy products for their plastic construction and display, HTC doesn't stand a chance. There is nothing that makes Samsung superior to HTC except advertising, and HTC needs to start swinging back - NOW. If they don't pull out the heavy guns and bash Samsung with everything they have, I won't feel the least bit sorry when they slide down the tubes.

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    So you find that the best mobile companies are the ones that bash their competition instead of making their phones better? Cause honestly, there is a lot to like about the Galaxy products (hence why the S3 is one of the best-selling smartphones ever) it's not just advertising. That plastic design is not a bad thing either, there are good, strong types of plastic and the one that Samsung uses is one of them. It's also nice and light too so there's a bonus. It's pretty dumb when someone sees the word plastic and immediately thinks negatively about the product. Besides, most people buy cases for their phones immediately after buying them so there goes that argument.

    If HTC wants to succeed yes advertising will help alot but they also need to address people's complaints about Sense, the flaws of the One X, etc (Though from what I've seen from people here, this is already a very impressive phone.)
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    Nice looking device... too bad HTC is not the company it needs to pull this off. To start off with, i have owned MANY htc devices dating back to the pocket PC days... i would have considered myself an HTC fan for sure. However, my most recent HTC (a one s) has left me with a bad taste and this is just too little too late.

    For starters, they cant even release a flagship device with the latest operating system, what does that say for updates? My one s STILL hasnt seen a proper jelly bean update and it was promised in Oct. Yes, my phone is rooted, but thats not the point (most ports just dotn work the same). top that off with the fact that they dont really unlock their phones (which has been a big pain in the *** with my opne s) and they can eat it. I am done for now.

    that being said, this is a really beautiful device, and i am sure that screen will be ridiculous. If it wasnt for the 2 reasons listed (and for ME those are BIG reasons) i would be buying this phone. Not sure though if HTC has what it takes to really make this phone the success they think it will be but i hope i am wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xlDeMoNiClx View Post
    So you find that the best mobile companies are the ones that bash their competition instead of making their phones better? Cause honestly, there is a lot to like about the Galaxy products (hence why the S3 is one of the best-selling smartphones ever) it's not just advertising. That plastic design is not a bad thing either, there are good, strong types of plastic and the one that Samsung uses is one of them. It's also nice and light too so there's a bonus. It's pretty dumb when someone sees the word plastic and immediately thinks negatively about the product. Besides, most people buy cases for their phones immediately after buying them so there goes that argument.

    If HTC wants to succeed yes advertising will help alot but they also need to address people's complaints about Sense, the flaws of the One X, etc (Though from what I've seen from people here, this is already a very impressive phone.)
    I'm not saying it's the best manufacturer, I am saying that aggressively targeting Apple helped the Galaxy S3 gain market share, HTC needs to do exactly the same thing against the S3. They need to be very aggressive in marketing, that's the key to winning over the "normals."

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    Quote Originally Posted by droidmyme View Post
    Put it to you bluntly: if I don't see HTC One commercials saturating the airwaves, and attacking Galaxy products for their plastic construction and display, HTC doesn't stand a chance. There is nothing that makes Samsung superior to HTC except advertising, and HTC needs to start swinging back - NOW. If they don't pull out the heavy guns and bash Samsung with everything they have, I won't feel the least bit sorry when they slide down the tubes.

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    I don't think HTC needs to go on the attack but I'll admit bashing ads seem to resonate with a certain set of people (I'm Mac/I'm a PC, Samsung Sheep, Binged).
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    Quote Originally Posted by droidmyme View Post
    I'm not saying it's the best manufacturer, I am saying that aggressively targeting Apple helped the Galaxy S3 gain market share, HTC needs to do exactly the same thing against the S3. They need to be very aggressive in marketing, that's the key to winning over the "normals."

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    Good point. If there's anything HTC needs to work on it's advertising. All I ever saw in terms of commercials about the One X was the one about showing off the video recording with the guy skydiving and the guy showing off the burst mode on the picture camera by taking pics of his dog. I would definitely say Samsung's ads against the iPhone 5 were a bit aggressive but honestly after so many people (alot of them pure Apple fans) were disappointed with what the iPhone 5 had it made it pretty easy for Samsung to bash it so not a lot of effort was needed.

    As for the phone itself I think HTC might have a good thing going for them if they can get the word out enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry View Post
    I don't think HTC needs to go on the attack but I'll admit bashing ads seem to resonate with a certain set of people (I'm Mac/I'm a PC, Samsung Sheep, Binged).
    If its done the right way, bashing competitors can work wonders for new products.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frettfreak View Post
    Nice looking device... too bad HTC is not the company it needs to pull this off. To start off with, i have owned MANY htc devices dating back to the pocket PC days... i would have considered myself an HTC fan for sure. However, my most recent HTC (a one s) has left me with a bad taste and this is just too little too late.

    For starters, they cant even release a flagship device with the latest operating system, what does that say for updates? My one s STILL hasnt seen a proper jelly bean update and it was promised in Oct. Yes, my phone is rooted, but thats not the point (most ports just dotn work the same). top that off with the fact that they dont really unlock their phones (which has been a big pain in the *** with my opne s) and they can eat it. I am done for now.

    that being said, this is a really beautiful device, and i am sure that screen will be ridiculous. If it wasnt for the 2 reasons listed (and for ME those are BIG reasons) i would be buying this phone. Not sure though if HTC has what it takes to really make this phone the success they think it will be but i hope i am wrong.
    Can you please point to articles or statements from HTC that say that every One S would receive a "proper" Jelly Bean update in October of 2012?
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    When I say "bashing" I don't mean to imply that HTC should act like an Android/Apple fanboy and go over the edge (lol) . I mean they should repeatedly and strongly emphasize the differences between their product (the One) and their main competition. I can see some clever ideas of a commercial with two friends, one having the S3 and one having the One. They could compare the color quality on the screens, and the One is clearly superior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by droidmyme View Post
    When I say "bashing" I don't mean to imply that HTC should act like an Android/Apple fanboy anf

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    How else would you "attack" Samsung's "plastic construction and display" without bashing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by droidmyme View Post
    When I say "bashing" I don't mean to imply that HTC should act like an Android/Apple fanboy anf

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    And you're right, there are different levels of bashing. Samsung for instance, didn't say the iPhone 5 was garbage because that was going too far. They just said their device was better and the choice of which you should get between the two "didn't take a genius". Honestly, I'm wondering if that line didn't also serve a second purpose of bashing Apple for calling the employees at their stores "geniuses."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry View Post
    How else would you "attack" Samsung's "plastic construction and display" without bashing?
    Sorry I typoed, read my earlier post. Emphasize the differences in clever and humorous ways. Saturate and repeat ad nauseum, so that anyone walking into an AT&T store is branded by the ads.

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    It think HTC would have a much tougher time bashing Samsung than Samsung had bashing Apple. Apple was an easy target. It took guts for Samsung to go there, but they simply highlighted all the shortcomings of the Iphone and its fanbase.

    Samsung puts cutting edge technology into their phones, the update the software faster than anyone, their phones are of great quality and they offer some of the best software add ons in the business. HTC is better off highlighting thier own wares rather than trying to point out the shortcomings of one of the best smartphone mfg's in the business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyc_rock View Post
    After seeing some of the hands on I almost feel that HTC has moved FURTHER away from success. While the hardware looks amazing, I think they did the exact opposite of what they should have done with Sense. Where Samsung has succeeded with their ugly nature UX is making it a compliment to Android. All the extra features, other than the visual aspects of it, can be pushed aside. If you got a replacement home launcher you could basically be running a stock look and feel but still getting all of those Samsung add ons that give you the added value and differentiation. HTC still seems convinced that how they feel a phone should be used is the way an HTC phone will used. Im not going to harp on it, but I will mention it. HTC left the stupid battery saving toggle in the notification draw. Who likes that? What engineer at HTC got their way and had that in there? I will absolutely check this phone out, but I am not nearly as excited as I was at 8 am this morning.

    And I have to say, no wireless charging is a big letdown. This is a feature I was looking forward to in my next smartphone.


    ^^^^^ This. I recently switched from EVO LTE to the GS3 and that was the biggest difference I noticed. Say what you want about Touchwiz but it seems to be more of a theme/mod to stock Android, where Sense is designed more as a replacement. Reading Peter Chou's interview on the Verge, it sounds like he's convinced Sense is their main selling point. To me Sense is an anchor dragging down their build and display quality, and I don't see this new phone reversing their tailspin. It sucks because I've owned many HTC devices, but they won't get any more business from me until they either make Sense a series of apps, or a launcher option like Nova/ADW.
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    The hardware looks very nice on this phone (although I seriously question the button configuration and removal of a button to put a useless logo).

    All recent phones have great specs with very fast cpus, nice screens etc (some better than others), BUT what made Samsung so successful with the S3 and the Note2 is software. Sure people hate on Touchwiz' look etc. But the phones Samsung have put out in the last year have had so many cool software features. THAT'S what made their phones so popular and put them ahead of the competition and made it easy for them to do ads making fun of the iPhone. Their marketing campaign also succeeded in making their phones recognizable... Before, mainstream people seemed to only know about the iPhone.

    So being innovative and differentiating yourself with software is key now, as all recent phones have decent hardware. Unfortunately, I don't think that Sense 5 will do it for HTC. I don't see any wow in what they have shown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fnair View Post
    The hardware looks very nice on this phone (although I seriously question the button configuration and removal of a button to put a useless logo).

    All recent phones have great specs with very fast cpus, nice screens etc (some better than others), BUT what made Samsung so successful with the S3 and the Note2 is software. Sure people hate on Touchwiz' look etc. But the phones Samsung have put out in the last year have had so many cool software features. THAT'S what made their phones so popular and put them ahead of the competition and made it easy for them to do ads making fun of the iPhone. Their marketing campaign also succeeded in making their phones recognizable... Before, mainstream people seemed to only know about the iPhone.

    So being innovative and differentiating yourself with software is key now, as all recent phones have decent hardware. Unfortunately, I don't think that Sense 5 will do it for HTC. I don't see any wow in what they have shown.
    Newsflash: nobody bought a Galaxy S3 because of TouchWiz. In fact, TouchWiz is exactly why people buy Nexus phones.

    HTC has a fine product. They just need to market it correctly. Marketing and advertising is how the mainstream buys phones - not specs, and not software.

    http://m.cnet.com/news/htc-one-looks...-care/57570141

    "HTC is going up against two of the biggest spenders in the world with intensely loyal followings," said Avi Greengart, an analyst at Current Analysis.

    So HTC needs to do a few things it hasn't been comfortable doing in the past. For one, it'll need to get more proactive with its own marketing. It's something the company has always half-heartedly done in the past, but it will need to work harder to develop both the One brand and the HTC name. Apple and Samsung are household names..."

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