Rooting 2.3.4

**JkdJedi** · 10-14-2011, 05:49 PM

Hi fellows! I finally convinced my buddy into rooting his dinc only to find out that its almost impossible if you've excepted the gingerbread ota. Is this true?

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**Wanda** · 10-14-2011, 06:26 PM

Yes. To my knowledge the official OTA Gingerbread update that went out, then stopped, then went out, then stopped again has not been rooted.

The Gingerbread release "fixed" the exploit in Froyo that was used to gain root access.

**JkdJedi** · 10-14-2011, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by Wanda

Yes. To my knowledge the official OTA Gingerbread update that went out, then stopped, then went out, then stopped again has not been rooted.

The Gingerbread release "fixed" the exploit in Froyo that was used to gain root access.

So then the only way to root is to SBF a froyo build. Is that right?

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**iBowToAndroid** · 10-15-2011, 12:40 AM

Originally Posted by JkdJedi

So then the only way to root is to SBF a froyo build. Is that right?

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SBF is Motorola's software. The HTC version is called an RUU. So just Google "HTC Incredible 2.2 RUU" - use it to go back to Froyo, then root.

**Wanda** · 10-15-2011, 07:28 AM

I'm not sure that would work...it seems to me you'd still need root access to do the RUU thing and that's the problem, you don't have root access, and the bootloader is locked. I may be wrong. The Stig should know for sure, send him a PM.

Edit: my fault, his proper name is Pvillecomp.

**crondable** · 10-15-2011, 12:29 PM

The 2.2 RUU will not work if the phone has taken the GB OTA. The OTA will lock the bootloader from accepting an older RUU. Unfortunately there is no way to currently root an Incredible that has accepted the OTA.

**JkdJedi** · 10-15-2011, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by crondable

The 2.2 RUU will not work if the phone has taken the GB OTA. The OTA will lock the bootloader from accepting an older RUU. Unfortunately there is no way to currently root an Incredible that has accepted the OTA.

**PvilleComp** · 10-15-2011, 02:55 PM

If you accepted the OTA but you are S-OFF, you can flash clockwork on using the PB31IMG file in HBOOT, then Flash Super user and you will have root on your OTA Gingerbread. BUT, you have to be S-OFF to begin with. If your friend was not rooted previously then you are going to have to wait for Unrevoked or someone else to crack it.

**JkdJedi** · 10-16-2011, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by PvilleComp

If you accepted the OTA but you are S-OFF, you can flash clockwork on using the PB31IMG file in HBOOT, then Flash Super user and you will have root on your OTA Gingerbread. BUT, you have to be S-OFF to begin with. If your friend was not rooted previously then you are going to have to wait for Unrevoked or someone else to crack it.

(LOve your AVATAR dude..way cool)! Well this will probably happen soon then I'm hoping, finally convinced my buddy to root his phone, I'll just wait to this happens. No way I'm gonna tell him that "we can't do it dude" , Thanks guys, I'll see ya's(near future) on the NOW ROOTED thread...

**Tripsyk** · 10-16-2011, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by JkdJedi

I'll see ya's(near future) on the NOW ROOTED thread...

Welcome to the dark side.

**Special--K** · 10-25-2011, 09:47 PM

Anyone have a guess as to when the nice folks of Unrevoked may get the Incredible w/ OTA Gingerbread update figured out?

If not anytime soon, will the directions at the link below work?

I plan on buying an used Incredible from someone on Craigslist, but he already got the OTA Gingerbread and has never rooted the phone (but he's selling the phone for pretty cheap). So does anyone have any suggestions on how to proceed?

Thanks!

**iBowToAndroid** · 10-25-2011, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by Special--K

Anyone have a guess as to when the nice folks of Unrevoked may get the Incredible w/ OTA Gingerbread update figured out?

If not anytime soon, will the directions at the link below work?

I plan on buying an used Incredible from someone on Craigslist, but he already got the OTA Gingerbread and has never rooted the phone (but he's selling the phone for pretty cheap). So does anyone have any suggestions on how to proceed?

Thanks!

That will work, but it's incredibly complicated and unnecessary. If you're comfortable running unrEVOked, all you need from that thread is the PB31IMG zip to go back to Froyo. Then unrEVOked will work.

**JkdJedi** · 10-25-2011, 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by iBowToAndroid

That will work, but it's incredibly complicated and unnecessary. If you're comfortable running unrEVOked, all you need from that thread is the PB31IMG zip to go back to Froyo. Then unrEVOked will work.

Anybody try this yet?

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**iBowToAndroid** · 10-25-2011, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by JkdJedi

Anybody try this yet?

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Yea, me lol. I've had to do it before because I needed an insurance replacement. And I'm literally just about to do it again. I was rooted with CM 7.1 but my phone stopped charging so I had to return it to stock and take it in for a replacement. That zip flashes everything back to 100% stock Froyo, which is then rootable via unrEVOked

**Special--K** · 10-26-2011, 12:51 AM

Thanks for the info! For some reason, I was under the impression that we couldn't downgrade to Froyo without having rooted the phone first. I'm not very good with phones/electronics, so I'm not sure how easy it will be to downgrade (is there any simple write-up?) even with your info, but it sounds like I should just get the phone first and figure it out later!

But is there any easier way than using the zip? Considering I'll be buying the phone used, I'm pretty sure there won't be anything I'll need to retain. I was hoping there would be an easy way to just reset everything to out of the box factory settings!

Thanks again!

**PvilleComp** · 10-26-2011, 07:13 AM

Originally Posted by iBowToAndroid

Yea, me lol. I've had to do it before because I needed an insurance replacement. And I'm literally just about to do it again. I was rooted with CM 7.1 but my phone stopped charging so I had to return it to stock and take it in for a replacement. That zip flashes everything back to 100% stock Froyo, which is then rootable via unrEVOked

iBow - Have you reverted to Froyo from OTA Stock S-ON Gingerbread?

I did not think the Stock/S-ON load would let you downgrade without rooting it first. Even with Stock and S-OFF my understanding was you needed to root first before flashing over the Stock recovery.

Just curious.

@Special-K and JkdJedi - It does look like the method outlined in that thread will work as they posted it.

**iBowToAndroid** · 10-26-2011, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by Special--K

Thanks for the info! For some reason, I was under the impression that we couldn't downgrade to Froyo without having rooted the phone first. I'm not very good with phones/electronics, so I'm not sure how easy it will be to downgrade (is there any simple write-up?) even with your info, but it sounds like I should just get the phone first and figure it out later!

But is there any easier way than using the zip? Considering I'll be buying the phone used, I'm pretty sure there won't be anything I'll need to retain. I was hoping there would be an easy way to just reset everything to out of the box factory settings!

Thanks again!

It's a pretty simple process. as long as it works like it should. There isn't a way to reset to out-of-box settings, because when you accept an OTA, it's permanently written into the phone - you need to root if you want anything else. But the zip should also work - I think.

Originally Posted by PvilleComp

iBow - Have you reverted to Froyo from OTA Stock S-ON Gingerbread?

I did not think the Stock/S-ON load would let you downgrade without rooting it first. Even with Stock and S-OFF my understanding was you needed to root first before flashing over the Stock recovery.

Just curious.

@Special-K and JkdJedi - It does look like the method outlined in that thread will work as they posted it.

Not from stock GB, no - I went from rooted stock (but S-ON'd first) CM GB. I never noticed that those instructions specifically say to root first.. I haven't ever heard of a stock zip not flashing you back. I work for Sprint, and the techs have been flashing Optimus S users back to Froyo after the GB update issues, and it works fine. Something to do with HTC's bootloader maybe..? But I didn't think it needed root. A 2.2 RUU should work too - I've never heard of those needing root.

**Flur** · 11-17-2011, 07:38 PM

So has anyone tried this with at Stock S-ON Dinc? Does it work?

I have the GB OTA and am completely unimpressed. I'd like to root but it's looking like a no-go.

**318sugarhill** · 11-17-2011, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by Flur

So has anyone tried this with at Stock S-ON Dinc? Does it work?

I have the GB OTA and am completely unimpressed. I'd like to root but it's looking like a no-go.

As far as I know, Its a no go. I've only seen methods as long as you have s-off.

It took FOREVER for the EVO to get rooted again after the GB OTA was released, but they did crack it. I thought the Dinc and the EVO were very similar, so I assumed once the Dinc got it's GB it would only be a matter of a week or two until it got rooted, but I've never heard that it did. I wonder if anyone is even working on it? Unrevoked used an exploit in Froyo and earlier (the rage against the cage exploit) but that exploit was fixed in GB. I made several posts in people warning them after reading EVO forums that if they ever thought they might want to root, do it before getting GB because you can't go back if you don't

**Flur** · 11-17-2011, 09:03 PM

I found this:

If I'm reading it right, it's for completely unrooted GB Dincs, to get root and S-OFF. I'm eligible for an upgrade on Dec 5, so I might wait until then to try it. That way if I brick my Dinc I at least can go get something else.

**sharp65** · 11-17-2011, 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by Flur

I found this:

If I'm reading it right, it's for completely unrooted GB Dincs, to get root and S-OFF. I'm eligible for an upgrade on Dec 5, so I might wait until then to try it. That way if I brick my Dinc I at least can go get something else.

I did this yesterday and it worked fine. I followed the second option and now I'm back on CM7. So much better than the mess that was the official update.

**jastop** · 11-18-2011, 08:51 AM

I just followed this procedure on my two dincs, one I stopped after root, the other I fully downgraded, achieved s-off and loaded CM7. Took about than 10 minutes no issues.

**dhs2011** · 11-20-2011, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by jeffs

I just followed this procedure on my two dincs, one I stopped after root, the other I fully downgraded, achieved s-off and loaded CM7. Took about than 10 minutes no issues.

how did you root it, this sucks. I tried rooting it several times on the wifes phone and no luck at all! revoked3 just keeps saying firmware too new. even with the link above no luck. Can you guys help me at all?

**silentbobdrummer** · 12-04-2011, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by jeffs

I just followed this procedure on my two dincs, one I stopped after root, the other I fully downgraded, achieved s-off and loaded CM7. Took about than 10 minutes no issues.

I'm trying this now and the part that I'm stuck at is the MD5summer. Every time I use it to get the md5 numbers, I get errors. Is this a step I can skip?