1. giper54's Avatar
    Does anyone know which LTE bands the Verizon version will have. I am hoping it will have all of the carriers LTE bands and work on any network like an iPhone.
    03-20-2017 05:23 PM
  2. donm527's Avatar
    I was wondering the exact same thing and also to expand on that question...

    If the Verizon version is a "World phone" that has most GSM bands, does Verizon lock those bands on their phones?

    I know that on Verizon's iPhones, that the GSM bands are not locked... so that means if you buy a new iPhone from Verizon, that the phone is unlocked for GSM and you can pop in an AT&T or T-Mobile or any GSM sim and it will work. Or if you go traveling abroad and want to use a sim over there, you don't have to go through the hassle of having Verizon unlock the phone for international use.

    Then you could save a few bucks buying a Verizon G6 than to buy one from AT&T and pop your AT&T sim into it.
    03-21-2017 10:34 PM
  3. Fred98TJ's Avatar
    All Verizon LTE phones are GSM unlocked. That was required by the FCC when they granted Verizon their LTE bands. Now if the Verizon bands match AT&T, I don't know
    03-22-2017 01:26 AM
  4. Almeuit's Avatar
    The Verizon website shows this...Click image for larger version. 

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    03-22-2017 06:46 AM
  5. donm527's Avatar
    Thanks all for the info. Looks like comparing your info from the Verizon website and link below, it has all the AT&T and T-Mobile bands needed. So if it's unlocked by default then should be able to pop my AT&T sim in it. More options for me to consider

    http://www.phonearena.com/news/Cheat...he-USA_id77933
    03-22-2017 07:28 AM
  6. Almeuit's Avatar
    Thanks all for the info. Looks like comparing your info from the Verizon website and link below, it has all the AT&T and T-Mobile bands needed. So if it's unlocked by default then should be able to pop my AT&T sim in it. More options for me to consider

    Cheat sheet: which 4G LTE bands do AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile and Sprint use in the USA?
    Yep then it should work without issue. No worries -- I can confirm all newer Verizon phones come unlocked out of the gate .
    03-22-2017 08:30 AM
  7. kramer5150's Avatar
    Cool... I did not know this about Verizon phones and the FCC requirement.
    thanks!!
    03-22-2017 10:03 AM
  8. giper54's Avatar
    Thanks for all of info. ATT's main LTE band is 17 so I am not sure about it working well with ATT. I believe LTE band 12 is T Mobiles main 700mHz LTE which the Verizon G6 is also missing.
    03-22-2017 10:50 AM
  9. donm527's Avatar
    Now that the unlocked question is answered, I just realized the next question is...

    Who's got the worst carrier bloatware? AT&T or Verizon?

    Sigh... when i was testing a Verizon iPhone on AT&T, you didnt have to worry about that since all iPhones dont have to deal with bloatware.
    03-22-2017 11:07 AM
  10. Almeuit's Avatar
    Now that the unlocked question is answered, I just realized the next question is...

    Who's got the worst carrier bloatware? AT&T or Verizon?

    Sigh... when i was testing a Verizon iPhone on AT&T, you didnt have to worry about that since all iPhones dont have to deal with bloatware.
    AT&T by far.
    03-22-2017 11:10 AM
  11. kramer5150's Avatar
    Now that the unlocked question is answered, I just realized the next question is...

    Who's got the worst carrier bloatware? AT&T or Verizon?

    Sigh... when i was testing a Verizon iPhone on AT&T, you didnt have to worry about that since all iPhones dont have to deal with bloatware.
    iPhones most definitely have "bloatware"...Am I correct on that? by that I mean pre-installed stuff you can't un-install. No one in iPhone land calls it bloatware though for whatever reason. They just stash it in a folder of unused apps and forget about it. So while it may not be carrier bloatware, its iOS bloatware. pick your poison I guess.

    Not sure about ATT versus V bloat... but on V, I have been able to disable the ones I don't need so at least its not doing anything other than taking up storage space. Some of it I was able to completely un-install... facebook IIRC was one.

    Most of the V bloatware though is no good. The only one I use is the data usage widget, and on occasion the My Verizon account access app. I was using their message+ app for text-ing, but the latest update doesn't work with my moto smart watch so I deactivated it too.
    03-22-2017 01:20 PM
  12. donm527's Avatar
    iPhones most definitely have "bloatware"...Am I correct on that?
    No, you're not. With iOS 10, you've had the ability to delete/disable 23 of Apple's preinstalled apps from calculator, calendar, compass, contacts, facetime to weather. Hold down an app icon until it wiggles, and press the x delete on the icon to remove it just like 3rd party apps.

    As far as carrier bloatware, I don't think we should only be able to just disable them... they (AT&T) insatall a ton of their own apps as well as dumb apps that I don't need like yp yellow pages (?!) and kindle and was not originally part of stock android... so I wish they would allow us to completely uninstall them.

    Actually instead of having to spend an hour to disable about two dozen apps, I'd prefer if the manufacturers tell the carriers to F.O and not allow bloatware on their phones like Apple.
    03-22-2017 01:42 PM
  13. donm527's Avatar
    Just thought if another question... if I bought a Verizon G6 and pop my At&T SIM in it... will I still get all the updates that Verizon pushes out? That's assuming we get updates like OS updates from the carrier and not from google.

    AT&T by far.
    03-23-2017 09:21 PM

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