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    Default native debian/ubuntu rom?(no loop)

    Would be cool to just flash Linux with ldxe set up right off the grip and not even have to have android any expert opinions on the idea? I'm thinking a few custom drivers a ARM compatible kernal and some other coolness I'm not sure about other than a few drivers I think we already have everything we need to do this. Any kick *** programmers interested? Alas only if I knew how I would
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    What is your goal with this project?
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    To flash and run Linux directly without android just like a custom rom
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    Ok I understand that, but all you would have is a small version of a desktop operating system and no phone functionality. So why would you want to do this? What could you do with your phone that you can't now?
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    I disagree ubuntu 11.3 natty has 3g cabability already I do belive. port the android phone app and there you go I bet it would strike a blow for the open source community in a good way (imagine playing Vega strke on your phone ) however you are right this new cm 7.2 rom is pretty kick *** but still just for the sake of doing it it would give us even more opting room I know android is better than ios any day but with Linux rom it would close the argument you don't see snow lepord osx coming out for the iPhone anytime soon so idk I could keep justifying the reason but my finger hurts it just would be really cool
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    I bet it would even get a mention in pc magazine
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    Quote Originally Posted by vernotzy21 View Post
    ...idk I could keep justifying the reason but my finger hurts it just would be really cool
    It's rough typing the longest sentence ever...
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    I know my punctuation and grammar suck if I can find a uber programmer to do this I promise to put a period in there somewhere as for real incentive I will make it my job to get them in PC magazine and hence fame and job offers and admiration and my eternal thanks man just thinking about its coolness makes me happy. I know I'm a dork
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    Three words: not gonna happen. At least, not on the Optimus S.

    Oh and IOS *is* OS X, just not Mac OS X.
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    So u mean to tell me all the latest apple comps r running the same thing as a Iphone? apple isn't really my thing so idk. however this dream rom would be multi device compatable just like real Linux it would be like installing Linux on a AMD instead of a Pentium 4(+) think about it most Linux distros come with driver support for a wide variety of hardware our android devices even though there is a wide variety the spectrum of hardware. Is about the same but I'm betting its less (I know its probably close) universal drivers covering major chip and board sets I was thinking Maybe all touch to negate the need for each devices button configuration except maybe power and volume IV been fixing computers for 20+ years now IV always wanted to be a programmer I know basic,Java, c++,c#,COBOL and python.....but my brain doesn't work like that I have given poeple the tools and have shown them how and have made a few decent. Programmers outta teaching them what I know but in the end I'm just envious and bitter because no matter how hard I try .....I suck....but its what I wanna do so I keep trying.....please never say never with our craft we our gods we think and we will it we make it real......just what would take me 10 yrs would take someone better 6 month? I yern for the end result. the fruit of imagination but I admit I need help
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    It would be a work of art the same rom could be flashed to our optimus or it could be flashed to a HTC evo 4g the only thing I'm not sure about is it would have to boot from the sdcard so that part leaves me stumped and then what to do with the internal memory? Idk I'm prob just delusional dammit drew you made me sad just for once when I jump on the crazy bandwagon I wish someone would ride with me
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    Ok IV pined and I made up mind I'm gonna do it I'm gonna put the Linux system in internal point the rest to SD and the loop method made me think you need at least a min of 50 MB for the main system files at least so use the internal up to 150 for crucial Main files and the rest like lxde and whatever in SD if you Yank and boot without SD your just going to get a command line its so posssble. Custom drivers, a few custom apps now I need to brush up on my Linux bash editing skills the biggest mem hog would be the drivers to have a universal rom it would need mad drivers so I guss I would first need to make a custom kernal with a driver database of at least 10 popular devices includeing our s now the loop method useing Linux installer automatically installs all the drivers we need minus the x11 android interface hence vnc....any ideas on this people I don't want to hear CANT that's the kind of attitude that keeps people from getting laid. ...
    ..(thanks drew you gave me the motivation I need I'm done sucking im going to get off my *** and do it and if I can't ill find someone that will.....someones gotta hold the gun ) so
    1.custom video driver adreno 200
    2.extract kernel from .loop Install combine with #1
    3.learn how to do 1 & 2
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    Can I backwards engineer the android driver for x11? Then use that in the kernel I'm so gonna figure this out (plus I'm sick of hearing r s is tiny so I'm gonna build it a sports car to compensate)
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    Everyone IDEAS!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by vernotzy21 View Post
    Everyone IDEAS!!!
    Why not port Linux apps to run on Android? Or maybe create a Linux emulator that runs Linux apps on Android? I'm no dev but something like that sounds like less hard work, and it sounds pretty possible. But back to the original topic.. if you can do this, I'd gladly donate once I see some results

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    I know that Zefie had Debian running on his LS670 after the screen was ruined; there's a Youtube video of that somewhere. I just don't know practical a full on desktop environment is on this device.

    If you are thinking about doing a dual boot scenario for this, you will probably want to use a device with more internal memory. I've always thought that would be cool. Why not pick one and port the Team Hydro bootloader to it. That would be a good start for this and some other project ideas as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vernotzy21 View Post
    ....any ideas on this people I don't want to hear CANT that's the kind of attitude that keeps people from getting laid. ...
    ..(thanks drew you gave me the motivation I need I'm done sucking im going to get off my *** and do it and if I can't ill find someone that will.....someones gotta hold the gun ) so
    1.custom video driver adreno 200
    2.extract kernel from .loop Install combine with #1
    3.learn how to do 1 & 2
    You've got me paying attention... I've been researching how to do this for a while now, although I will want a dual-boot set-up,,, I'm glad that you're done sucking, because I still suck... I'm a hardware guy, so I'm a TOTAL noob when it comes to programming -- BUT I don't think I will be for long with the amount of reading & research I've been doing... Don't let the haters get ya down! If Canonical can do it, we can too -- hopefully first!
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    I'm half tempted to try on my new phone... 16g internal, 24gb sd... I have the room...

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    Ok guys I'm stuck I have no computer I want to do this bad but no pc basically the biggest hump is obtaining the kernel from linux installer download then wonder if we can't backwards engineer x-11 from the market get rid of the vnc backend and incorporate native driver but please remember I don't really know what I'm talking about but does anyone have any exp with makeing kernels? I belive if we make the kernel the rest wouldn't be hard if anyone does this first ill worship you. can I do it on my S .everyone says it wouldn't be worth it on the s but you know you can install linux on everything from 386 up to the newset multi core and then some yeah its slower but still cool if I do it I wouldt want any donations ....it just wouldn't be right.... being linux and all
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    I think this would be ground breaking development tirith will you be my hero?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vernotzy21 View Post
    I think this would be ground breaking development tirith will you be my hero?
    As soon as I find some free time, I'll tinker around

    I'll test it on my opti first - its still sitting around here somewhere...
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    Yaaaaay!!! I love you ) you rock! #1
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    I found this!

    https://github.com/OMX/device_htc_inc/tree/gpu/gpu

    i think it would help the quest open source adreno 200 driver but other than what iv read i have no clue
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    I think it'd be a nice dual boot. I've had ubuntu, ICS and Windows 7 all on my Netbook before, heh. (I don't have ics anymore, just ubuntu and win7 - the ics build I had was kinda buggy so I canned it)

    I'd do it on my tablet before my phone, but I wouldn't mind having this. If anyone can figure out how to do this, that is.

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    It would be a waste of time to put lxde on the Optimus. I use lxde on my netbook(Lubuntu) and swear by it. but there's no way it's a good investment of time for a 3.2 inch screen. The kid who mentioned a virtual machine that could run Linux on android was on to something. Regardless the end result will be disappointing and borderline useless in comparison to android running on a phone or Linux running on a pc.
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