- 02-06-2011, 01:09 PM #52
Yes, unfortunately there is no roaming agreements for Virgin Mobile (or Boost Mobile for that matter.) This is why if you go to their site and look at the coverage maps it is identical to Sprint's coverage map minus all the gray areas (roaming - Verizon, Alltel, MetroPCS, etc).
As far as I know, the only major provider that allows you to roam (for a fee) is MetroPCS. This is one of the reasons why prepaid is cheaper than the postpaid plans (plus you have no contracts).
If you have a Sprint phone, you can usually force roam on Verizon by having your phone to use the Cell frequency rather than PCS. (Sprint only offers service on 1900Mhz PCS band so does MetroPCS) This might be different in other states though where the providers are different.
@Nick: I believe even if the phone were to register on Verizon's SIDs - the phone theoretically won't be able to make or receive calls - You will simply get an error message saying that your phone is not validated and tells you to call Customer Service.
or even worse, you might get a message saying that you have reached the American Roaming Network and that you need to punch in your credit card number to continue.
- 02-06-2011, 03:14 PM #53
- 02-06-2011, 03:49 PM #54
Is your repeater working able to repeat the 1900Mhz frequency? This is what Sprint uses for its network and it will not work if you only have a 800/850Mhz repeater (Verizon can use the 800Mhz frequency but not Sprint).
Also if your coverage is weak in your area, for Sprint, and specifically Sprint, you can usually request a free Airave (supposing that you have been with them for a while and that you live in a low coverage area) so that you can get 3G on your phone. (But I guess you could use WiFi in that case, if you are going to plug the Airave in a router anyways)
- 02-07-2011, 03:25 AM #55
Unless there's an app or a hack that will force a V to stick to specific PCS channels I think it's a lost cause in my case. Sprint's return/refund policy within 30 days seems fair but the same unlimited-everything service is almost twice as much ($99 plus and oh-by-the-way $10 extra data charge) and a 2 year contract and still no guarantee it's going to provide anything better than 1x roaming on Verizon's signal.
Yeah I can wi-fi through a router, but I really wanted this to be an independent mobile hotspot. Bleh.
Thanks again for the info though.
- 02-07-2011, 03:41 AM #56
As far as I know, Virgin IS Sprint... I don't believe there are roaming contracts involved for them (at least probably not), otherwise you would be "roaming" on Sprint's towers, rather than using them as your native towers.
From what you are describing to me, it does not seem like this is a problem with your phone, but rather the coverage around your area. And as far as I know, you cannot force the Optimus to connect at a particular channel - only a particular band (1900 PCS or 800 Cell). Your phone automatically picks the best band, channel, and PN and goes with that. Going back to your concern, it does seems like that your area might be overloaded or have capacity issues. The tower you are connecting to might also have a faulty amp that requires some looking into. Are you located in a metropolitan area where coverage might be an issue? This might merit a ticket with Sprint to have them look at the towers. (I currently have this issue myself in my area with my Optimus S so my phone does that quite a bit, although it's mainly EVDO that has issues, with it switching constantly between 3G and 1X data)
- 02-08-2011, 01:26 PM #57
Not sure what i was doing exactly.
Sprint HTC EVO; rooted running Android 2.2
Downloaded the apk
Downloaded a file manager
Browsed to the downloaded app, Installed.
Application title was funky, Hidden Menu or something.
When I ran it it didn't give any options. Just the author and a button that did nothing. Pressing Menu brought up a Stop/Exit dialog.
Did I do something wrong?
- 02-08-2011, 01:27 PM #58
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- 02-08-2011, 02:36 PM #60
Although you might be able to load a foreign PRL onto the Optimus V, your phone will refuse to work even if it manages to register on Verizon's towers. You are very likely to be prompted for a credit card to place an outgoing call and you will not get any incoming calls while registered on that SID.
This is one of the reasons why Virgin Mobile is cheaper (and also that you are not locked in a contract).
- 02-08-2011, 02:38 PM #61
i was about to say that VM doesn't have free roaming. i can't imagine it would be good to force roaming on a device that doesn't have roaming as one of it's services.
- 02-08-2011, 05:15 PM #63
Does the PRL make the phone recognize foreign towers as native even without changing the Home NID and SID on the phone? Mine is currently set to 04139 which is Sprint.
Even if it does register without the roaming indicator, since the ESN is probably not recognized by the Verizon towers, you'd probably get a message welcoming you to the American Roaming Network which asks you if you want to enter a credit card or place a collect call.
- 02-09-2011, 02:09 PM #64
I am sure you can trick the phone into using a roaming tower. However when you make a call, there is stuff that goes on in the back-end to authenticate your phone. Unless that stuff is set up at Sprint, it won't go through. You'll get some error message like "not able to authenticate" or equivalent.
- 02-19-2011, 04:30 AM #65
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- 02-21-2011, 01:56 PM #69
- 02-21-2011, 04:07 PM #70
Roam Control does not allow you to roam on 3G data unless Sprint allows you to explicitly do so in their PRL (eg. Alltel)
If you really want to roam 3G in those areas, you must use the Verizon PRL hack in this forum.
Do note that you will still be restricted to the roaming limits set forth by Sprint (300 MB data and/or 800 minutes voice and/or 50% of your voice minutes)
Hope this information is helpful to you.
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