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  1. Nick7's Avatar
    I'm pretty sure that there is no roaming on Virgin Mobile. If you are not connected to a Sprint tower, your text messages and voicemails will be saved for 72 hours.
    Head over to my PRL hack thread in the ROMs and hacks section
    That will help
    02-06-2011 01:00 PM
  2. swg0101's Avatar
    Yes, unfortunately there is no roaming agreements for Virgin Mobile (or Boost Mobile for that matter.) This is why if you go to their site and look at the coverage maps it is identical to Sprint's coverage map minus all the gray areas (roaming - Verizon, Alltel, MetroPCS, etc).
    As far as I know, the only major provider that allows you to roam (for a fee) is MetroPCS. This is one of the reasons why prepaid is cheaper than the postpaid plans (plus you have no contracts).

    If you have a Sprint phone, you can usually force roam on Verizon by having your phone to use the Cell frequency rather than PCS. (Sprint only offers service on 1900Mhz PCS band so does MetroPCS) This might be different in other states though where the providers are different.

    @Nick: I believe even if the phone were to register on Verizon's SIDs - the phone theoretically won't be able to make or receive calls - You will simply get an error message saying that your phone is not validated and tells you to call Customer Service.
    or even worse, you might get a message saying that you have reached the American Roaming Network and that you need to punch in your credit card number to continue.
    02-06-2011 01:09 PM
  3. Erilaz's Avatar
    Yes, unfortunately there is no roaming agreements for Virgin Mobile (or Boost Mobile for that matter.) This is why if you go to their site and look at the coverage maps it is identical to Sprint's coverage map minus all the gray areas (roaming - Verizon, Alltel, MetroPCS, etc).
    As far as I know, the only major provider that allows you to roam (for a fee) is MetroPCS. This is one of the reasons why prepaid is cheaper than the postpaid plans (plus you have no contracts).

    If you have a Sprint phone, you can usually force roam on Verizon by having your phone to use the Cell frequency rather than PCS. (Sprint only offers service on 1900Mhz PCS band so does MetroPCS) This might be different in other states though where the providers are different.

    @Nick: I believe even if the phone were to register on Verizon's SIDs - the phone theoretically won't be able to make or receive calls - You will simply get an error message saying that your phone is not validated and tells you to call Customer Service.
    or even worse, you might get a message saying that you have reached the American Roaming Network and that you need to punch in your credit card number to continue.
    Ah. Thanks, that explains why it isn't roaming. But not why the repeaters in my apt. and at work aren't carrying Sprint's signals. That's a different topic though, and I'm probably going to have to take this V back. It's a nice phone but it figures that the 'unlimited' access deal for $60 was too good to be true. And I'm a little hesitant to pony up for an Optimus S and a contract with Sprint if that's only gonna work at 1x.
    02-06-2011 03:14 PM
  4. swg0101's Avatar
    Is your repeater working able to repeat the 1900Mhz frequency? This is what Sprint uses for its network and it will not work if you only have a 800/850Mhz repeater (Verizon can use the 800Mhz frequency but not Sprint).

    Also if your coverage is weak in your area, for Sprint, and specifically Sprint, you can usually request a free Airave (supposing that you have been with them for a while and that you live in a low coverage area) so that you can get 3G on your phone. (But I guess you could use WiFi in that case, if you are going to plug the Airave in a router anyways)
    02-06-2011 03:49 PM
  5. Erilaz's Avatar
    Is your repeater working able to repeat the 1900Mhz frequency? This is what Sprint uses for its network and it will not work if you only have a 800/850Mhz repeater (Verizon can use the 800Mhz frequency but not Sprint).

    Also if your coverage is weak in your area, for Sprint, and specifically Sprint, you can usually request a free Airave (supposing that you have been with them for a while and that you live in a low coverage area) so that you can get 3G on your phone. (But I guess you could use WiFi in that case, if you are going to plug the Airave in a router anyways)
    Yep, it's dual band. zBoost YX545. Nick7's Roam Control also unlocks a service diag and I've been studying that... seems the V only likes to connect on PCS channel 50 and 150. The signal is great outside, full bars, but it's just not getting through the buildings. If I unplug my home repeater it loses signal entirely, so I know it's working somewhat but not as good as it should. At work it will very briefly try to connect on those same channels with lots of bars then it gives up and continues channel scanning. I'm thinking that Virgin's contract with Sprint's towers is, um, very limited. Hence the low price.

    Unless there's an app or a hack that will force a V to stick to specific PCS channels I think it's a lost cause in my case. Sprint's return/refund policy within 30 days seems fair but the same unlimited-everything service is almost twice as much ($99 plus and oh-by-the-way $10 extra data charge) and a 2 year contract and still no guarantee it's going to provide anything better than 1x roaming on Verizon's signal.

    Yeah I can wi-fi through a router, but I really wanted this to be an independent mobile hotspot. Bleh.

    Thanks again for the info though.
    02-07-2011 03:25 AM
  6. swg0101's Avatar
    As far as I know, Virgin IS Sprint... I don't believe there are roaming contracts involved for them (at least probably not), otherwise you would be "roaming" on Sprint's towers, rather than using them as your native towers.

    From what you are describing to me, it does not seem like this is a problem with your phone, but rather the coverage around your area. And as far as I know, you cannot force the Optimus to connect at a particular channel - only a particular band (1900 PCS or 800 Cell). Your phone automatically picks the best band, channel, and PN and goes with that. Going back to your concern, it does seems like that your area might be overloaded or have capacity issues. The tower you are connecting to might also have a faulty amp that requires some looking into. Are you located in a metropolitan area where coverage might be an issue? This might merit a ticket with Sprint to have them look at the towers. (I currently have this issue myself in my area with my Optimus S so my phone does that quite a bit, although it's mainly EVDO that has issues, with it switching constantly between 3G and 1X data)

    Good luck.
    02-07-2011 03:41 AM
  7. streger's Avatar
    Not sure what i was doing exactly.
    Sprint HTC EVO; rooted running Android 2.2

    Downloaded the apk
    Downloaded a file manager
    Browsed to the downloaded app, Installed.
    Application title was funky, Hidden Menu or something.

    When I ran it it didn't give any options. Just the author and a button that did nothing. Pressing Menu brought up a Stop/Exit dialog.

    Did I do something wrong?
    02-08-2011 01:26 PM
  8. swg0101's Avatar
    As far as I know, this app is specific for LG Optimus series? (Runs the LG Hidden Menu within the phone)
    02-08-2011 01:27 PM
  9. ejlmd's Avatar
    Would it be possible (and useful) to force load a Sprint PRL onto the Virgin Mobile Optimus V, to allow for automatic roaming onto Verizon towers when necessary?
    02-08-2011 02:32 PM
  10. swg0101's Avatar
    Although you might be able to load a foreign PRL onto the Optimus V, your phone will refuse to work even if it manages to register on Verizon's towers. You are very likely to be prompted for a credit card to place an outgoing call and you will not get any incoming calls while registered on that SID.
    This is one of the reasons why Virgin Mobile is cheaper (and also that you are not locked in a contract).
    02-08-2011 02:36 PM
  11. hamagc's Avatar
    i was about to say that VM doesn't have free roaming. i can't imagine it would be good to force roaming on a device that doesn't have roaming as one of it's services.
    02-08-2011 02:38 PM
  12. Nick7's Avatar
    i was about to say that VM doesn't have free roaming. i can't imagine it would be good to force roaming on a device that doesn't have roaming as one of it's services.
    I wonder if PRL hack would work though. It makes the phone recognize roaming towers as it's own, but shows up on the bill as roaming. Could be dangerous..
    02-08-2011 05:01 PM
  13. swg0101's Avatar
    Nick,
    Does the PRL make the phone recognize foreign towers as native even without changing the Home NID and SID on the phone? Mine is currently set to 04139 which is Sprint.
    Even if it does register without the roaming indicator, since the ESN is probably not recognized by the Verizon towers, you'd probably get a message welcoming you to the American Roaming Network which asks you if you want to enter a credit card or place a collect call.
    02-08-2011 05:15 PM
  14. sfhub's Avatar
    I am sure you can trick the phone into using a roaming tower. However when you make a call, there is stuff that goes on in the back-end to authenticate your phone. Unless that stuff is set up at Sprint, it won't go through. You'll get some error message like "not able to authenticate" or equivalent.
    02-09-2011 02:09 PM
  15. phreak311's Avatar
    Doesn't work with CM7
    02-19-2011 04:30 AM
  16. Nick7's Avatar
    Doesn't work with CM7
    That's because there is no LGHiddenMenu in AOSP.
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    02-19-2011 10:23 AM
  17. horate's Avatar
    please tell me how to use this roam control.work great at my friend optimus s phone.but how you know how set up
    02-20-2011 02:45 AM
  18. swg0101's Avatar
    Just install it using ADB via the command prompt on your Optimus S phone.
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    02-20-2011 02:47 AM
  19. horate's Avatar
    i went from one bar to 5 bar,but 3g still week
    02-21-2011 01:56 PM
  20. swg0101's Avatar
    Roam Control does not allow you to roam on 3G data unless Sprint allows you to explicitly do so in their PRL (eg. Alltel)
    If you really want to roam 3G in those areas, you must use the Verizon PRL hack in this forum.
    Do note that you will still be restricted to the roaming limits set forth by Sprint (300 MB data and/or 800 minutes voice and/or 50% of your voice minutes)
    Hope this information is helpful to you.
    02-21-2011 04:07 PM
  21. joshster611's Avatar
    This app doesnt work on the samsung epic on sprint
    03-09-2011 05:30 PM
  22. swg0101's Avatar
    This app doesnt work on the samsung epic on sprint
    This app is only specific to the LG Optimus - this is why it's named Roam Control Optimus
    03-09-2011 05:34 PM
  23. phreak311's Avatar
    Could I pull the LGHiddenMenu from a 2.2 ROM and put it on CM7?
    03-10-2011 02:19 AM
  24. swg0101's Avatar
    I believe the devs said that the frameworks are incompatible so you can't do it - never tried it so I don't know...
    03-10-2011 02:20 AM
  25. jjmogul25#AC's Avatar
    does this work on evo
    03-10-2011 08:50 PM
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