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    Default Huge battery drain unless I do a cache clear every day

    Normal standby will uses a few percent overnight. Suddenly the battery drain steps up as if some sort of process is running in the background, and 50% of the battery would be used in standby in a day. A cache clear sets things right, but now I have to do it every day to stop the fast battery drain.
    Will 4.4.3 fix this?
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    Default Re: Huge battery drain unless I do a cache clear every day

    Could you post screenshots of the battery stats and the graph, right before charging it, please?
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    Default Re: Huge battery drain unless I do a cache clear every day

    I think I need to do a cache clear how do I do it on moto G.
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    Default Re: Huge battery drain unless I do a cache clear every day

    Here's what happened since yesterday morning. Slow battery drain until I got some notifications of app updates (after about an hour). Then battery drain is high for the next day and night. I was repeatedly killing tasks and stopping MotoCare and some other BS stuff that keeps turning itself on. As you can see half the battery is gone in 24 hours, with only 20 minutes of talking at best.

    Then I did a cache clear, killed all the apps that re-start, and the standby use is like I expect it to be, good for 5-6 days.

    Some sort of battery-killing process gets started automatically and can only be stopped with a cache clear.

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    Default Re: Huge battery drain unless I do a cache clear every day

    Quote Originally Posted by arch stanton1 View Post
    Here's what happened since yesterday morning. Slow battery drain until I got some notifications of app updates (after about an hour). Then battery drain is high for the next day and night. I was repeatedly killing tasks and stopping MotoCare and some other BS stuff that keeps turning itself on. As you can see half the battery is gone in 24 hours, with only 20 minutes of talking at best.

    Then I did a cache clear, killed all the apps that re-start, and the standby use is like I expect it to be, good for 5-6 days.

    Some sort of battery-killing process gets started automatically and can only be stopped with a cache clear.

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    OK...so you are killing apps? Which ones?

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    Default Re: Huge battery drain unless I do a cache clear every day

    Youtube, GMail, Media storage, and Email, none of which I use, but start on their own anyway. Maps I leave alone, it seems to be always running.
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    Default Re: Huge battery drain unless I do a cache clear every day

    Quote Originally Posted by arch stanton1 View Post
    Youtube, GMail, Media storage, and Email, none of which I use, but start on their own anyway. Maps I leave alone, it seems to be always running.
    I would suggest leaving media storage alone, and disabling the other apps you mentioned.

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    Default Re: Huge battery drain unless I do a cache clear every day

    I seem to have low battery drain now, even with all of these self-starting apps running in the background. Guess what the culprit was. Chrome. If I started Chrome and then went back to the home screen or to another app, Chrome running in the background was using up my battery. If I specifically kill Chrome, I get low battery use.

    Edit: Even with Chrome stopped, at the baseball game last night it started the 1% drain/hour again in standby. I powered it down and up, no difference. A cache clear in the 6th inning brought the battery drain back to normal (3% overnight). Google needs to look into this.

    If there is a pattern it's that the standby drain steps into high gear if I'm moving or move more than one cell tower from where the phone is happy.
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    Default Re: Huge battery drain unless I do a cache clear every day

    Same stuff is happening to me with my brand new moto g running 4.4.3 out of box. The drain is almost 1% per 3-4 minutes.

    I don't know what's causing this. Is this another one of KitKat bugs??

    And OP, did the issue get resolved or you're just working around it.??

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    Default Re: Huge battery drain unless I do a cache clear every day

    And why does my battery status only show about 4-5 hours of backup for 75% battery life?

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    Default Re: Huge battery drain unless I do a cache clear every day

    Quote Originally Posted by Suhail Bashir View Post
    And why does my battery status only show about 4-5 hours of backup for 75% battery life?

    Sent from my XT1033 using AC Forums mobile app
    Its showing you that you have used the phone for 4 hours since last charge on the battery. So 25% battery consumed in 4 hours and out of which appx 60% is used by screen that means you have used phone for appx 2.4 hours.

    Going by the current rate of battery drain your phone should last 14 hours or more. Which is very good since you have been playing candy crush
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    Default Re: Huge battery drain unless I do a cache clear every day

    Thank you abhibh.
    It's just that I only get about 5-6 hours on battery. Do I need calibration or something similar?

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    Default Re: Huge battery drain unless I do a cache clear every day

    I'll post a pic later today. I think I've narrowed it down to two or three things. I did a cache clear with a full battery, only used a full percent overnight, then after 12 hours on battery, the drain cranks up to a few percent an hour. I looked at the running apps and it showed two processes that started about the same time the battery drain started, Moto services and Google Analytics under Google Play. If I do a cache clear and stop these two processes after rebooting, I get low standby power usage until they start up again.

    Any hope the 4.4.3 patch fixes this instead of making it worse?
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    Default Re: Huge battery drain unless I do a cache clear every day

    Quote Originally Posted by Suhail Bashir View Post
    Thank you abhibh.
    It's just that I only get about 5-6 hours on battery. Do I need calibration or something similar?

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    Please post a screenshot once you have 10% battery left to see whats draining the battery that it just lasts 2-3 hours more for the remaining 75%.
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    Default Re: Huge battery drain unless I do a cache clear every day

    I'm also getting horrible battery life post KitKat I've tried everything both a hard and soft reset, battery calibration, tried a dozen battery booster apps and ...nothing, I've tried complaining on Motorola's forum and received no response

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    Default Re: Huge battery drain unless I do a cache clear every day

    my battery drain seem to be because of Motorola services app.
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    Default Re: Huge battery drain unless I do a cache clear every day

    Quote Originally Posted by SickMickUK View Post
    my battery drain seem to be because of Motorola services app.
    That happened to me yesterday. My droid mini was draining battery like crazy. Moto services kept the phone awake. The phone finally was able to update and now my battery is back to normal.
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    Default Re: Huge battery drain unless I do a cache clear every day

    Yes, Chrome was a battery killer, but Motorola Services (Notification) seems to be the problem. It must be waking up the phone and turning on the screen even though you think it is asleep. That's why 50% of your battery goes to screen in standby.

    My new procedure is to charge it before bedtime, shut off the phone overnight, and turn it on in the morning. Kill all apps right away, then go into settings/apps/running apps and kill Moto Services and Google Play Gcm services and Google Analytics. My phone has been on 2 days and 14 hours with 70% of the battery left. It's like Jelly Bean is back.
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    Default Re: Huge battery drain unless I do a cache clear every day

    what about settings for location? my battery was draining almost 35% over night because location it was set to "high accuracy". after I put it to "battery saver" all my problems dissapear
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    Default Re: Huge battery drain unless I do a cache clear every day

    I've found a way to get standby battery drain to what I expect with the Moto G. First problem was "Super Task Killer". I replaced it with "Advanced Task Killer" which, with low security, allows you to see and kill every process, which you don't really want to do, since they will just start up again. I do use the task killer to stop Google Maps and Google Play after I'm done using an app that calls them. I haven't figured out if Play or Maps is the one doing the drain in standby yet. You can also check in settings/apps/running what is going on. Under Google Play, if there is a Gcm service running sometimes it uses battery.

    If I don't receive notifications of updates, the battery drain is low on standby. This I was able to do for 5+ days without a cache clear. Here's what I have running in standby.
    Huge battery drain unless I do a cache clear every day-screenshot_2014-05-21-10-37-17.png

    And here's my battery drain so far this week.
    Huge battery drain unless I do a cache clear every day-screenshot_2014-05-21-10-38-16.png
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    Default Re: Huge battery drain unless I do a cache clear every day

    Update: Google Cloud Manager seems to be the culprit. I had not unchecked all of the account sync options except calendar, the only one I use. It seems that just taking a picture with the camera would start data going back and forth with Google and draining the battery until the process is killed. About once a day Google Play, Opera, and Maps will start on their own and start draining the battery, so these apps need to be monitored.

    Now I can unplug my phone from the charger Monday morning and still have 30% or more battery after work on Friday.

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