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  1. Ry's Avatar
    I am going to laugh when there is absolutely nothing interesting about the fabled xphone. I guarantee it will be just a different variation of the upcoming droids that they will slap an x on.

    Sent from my SCH-I535
    Most overhyped phone in recent history.
    07-05-2013 02:02 PM
  2. return_0's Avatar
    And without Nova launcher?
    No lag on my N4.

    Sent from my pure Google Nexus 4 using Android Central Forums
    07-05-2013 06:15 PM
  3. Pollster's Avatar
    And without Nova launcher?
    Exactly the same. I run pretty bare and redid from scratch about 2 months ago. Check your configs if you have lag.
    07-05-2013 11:03 PM
  4. djw39's Avatar
    Curious -

    Do you get the same results without Nova?

    Are you saying the hardware on the Nexus 7 is old and irrelevant? It's the current Nexus 7" tablet.
    1) yes there is no lag on any launcher, Nova is just a good choice for this test because it has the same apps/widgets configuration as AOSP launcher

    2) I am not saying the Tegra 3 in the Nexus 7 is "irrelevant". But it is not in the same performance class as the Snapdragon S4 Pro in the Nexus 4/Optimus G, or the Snapdragon 600 in newer phones.

    It is disappointing that newer versions of Android have performance issues on my Nexus S. But the newest two generations of smartphone processors at least are showing incredible performance on jelly bean, whether nexus or not.

    Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk 4 Beta
    07-06-2013 07:18 AM
  5. dcunited08's Avatar
    1) yes there is no lag on any launcher, Nova is just a good choice for this test because it has the same apps/widgets configuration as AOSP launcher

    2) I am not saying the Tegra 3 in the Nexus 7 is "irrelevant". But it is not in the same performance class as the Snapdragon S4 Pro in the Nexus 4/Optimus G, or the Snapdragon 600 in newer phones.

    It is disappointing that newer versions of Android have performance issues on my Nexus S. But the newest two generations of smartphone processors at least are showing incredible performance on jelly bean, whether nexus or not.

    Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk 4 Beta
    I have not been impressed with the Tegra 3 in my tf201 either, I will look for Qualcomm going forward. I guess Asus/Google have not been impressed either if N7.2 rumors prove correct.

    The Nexus S is 4 generations behind and does not have the hardware capabilities JB is leveraging to reduce lag namely ram and multiple processors. I worked on a GS on cm 10 at work the other day and it was noticeably slower than my GS2.

    Sent from my SGH-I777 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
    07-07-2013 06:22 AM
  6. ChuckG73's Avatar
    Moto X : Une nouvelle srie de photos en attendant sa sortie Moto-X-Blanc-Kevlar

    The more I see, the more I Like this phone....go ahead and sign me up for white kevlar
    07-08-2013 08:29 AM
  7. bunique4life05's Avatar
    The phone seems really nice but it comes down to software and battery life for me.

    Sent from my SGH-T999 using AC Forums mobile app
    07-08-2013 05:16 PM
  8. Ry's Avatar
    Moto X : Une nouvelle srie de photos en attendant sa sortie Moto-X-Blanc-Kevlar

    The more I see, the more I Like this phone....go ahead and sign me up for white kevlar
    Same here.
    07-08-2013 06:11 PM
  9. neonworm's Avatar
    Same here.
    White kevlar sounds interesting. I would I have to see a picture though.

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    07-08-2013 06:42 PM
  10. hokiesteve's Avatar
    Exactly.

    The price that matters to consumers is the price that they pay.

    Most consumers pay the on-contract price. Full retail is nearly irrelevant.

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    The only reason that full retail price is nearly irrelevant is that carriers hide much of the actual cost of the phone in the monthly service price resulting in a serious lack of price transparency. We would be much better off as consumers if service plan costs were divorced from phone costs.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using AC Forums mobile app
    07-08-2013 10:45 PM
  11. Ry's Avatar
    The only reason that full retail price is nearly irrelevant is that carriers hide much of the actual cost of the phone in the monthly service price resulting in a serious lack of price transparency. We would be much better off as consumers if service plan costs were divorced from phone costs.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using AC Forums mobile app
    See T-Mobile.

    Posted via Android Central App
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    07-08-2013 11:49 PM
  12. hokiesteve's Avatar
    See T-Mobile.

    Posted via Android Central App
    Right, but T-Mobile is the only major carrier that has implemented that business model. Last I checked, Verizon, AT&T, and Sprint have not embraced that model.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using AC Forums mobile app
    07-09-2013 10:38 AM
  13. juicebox666's Avatar
    It is disappointing that newer versions of Android have performance issues on my Nexus S. But the newest two generations of smartphone processors at least are showing incredible performance on jelly bean, whether nexus or not.

    Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk 4 Beta
    The Nexus S has limited RAM, a single-core processor and a slower GPU. I loved my Nexus S, but it really started to chug near the end of its life. The Nexus 4 is an all-around great device delivered at an excellent price. Best bang for the buck in the Android landscape.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
    07-09-2013 11:09 AM
  14. Ry's Avatar
    Right, but T-Mobile is the only major carrier that has implemented that business model. Last I checked, Verizon, AT&T, and Sprint have not embraced that model.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using AC Forums mobile app
    See Cricket, Metro-PCS, etc.
    07-09-2013 11:11 AM
  15. dcunited08's Avatar
    Right, but T-Mobile is the only major carrier that has implemented that business model. Last I checked, Verizon, AT&T, and Sprint have not embraced that model.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using AC Forums mobile app
    At&t and Verizon both have prepaid offerings.

    Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk HD
    07-09-2013 12:07 PM
  16. return_0's Avatar
    At&t and Verizon both have prepaid offerings.

    Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk HD
    That's not the point.

    Sent from my pure Google Nexus 4 using Android Central Forums
    07-09-2013 06:23 PM
  17. hokiesteve's Avatar
    See Cricket, Metro-PCS, etc.
    What's your point?
    07-09-2013 09:14 PM
  18. NoYankees44's Avatar
    See T-Mobile.

    Posted via Android Central App
    Lol when tmobile has a network that is even comparable to verizons we can talk about them. Until then they don't deserve my money, even if they do many other things right.

    Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T
    07-09-2013 09:30 PM
  19. return_0's Avatar
    Lol when tmobile has a network that is even comparable to verizons we can talk about them. Until then they don't deserve my money, even if they do many other things right.

    Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T
    Their coverage is as good where I am and their speeds have been proven to be as fast if not faster nationwide.

    Sent from my pure Google Nexus 4 using Android Central Forums
    07-09-2013 11:57 PM
  20. Aquila's Avatar
    Their coverage is as good where I am and their speeds have been proven to be as fast if not faster nationwide.

    Sent from my pure Google Nexus 4 using Android Central Forums
    I agree, from self reporting it seems like if T-Mobile has strong HSPA+ in your area, it's awesome. If they have just HSPA it's terrible and the real problem is that they're not in most places (area wise) even though they do cover a large portion of the population. It makes traveling difficult.
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    07-10-2013 04:25 AM
  21. bunique4life05's Avatar
    T-Mobile coverage needs improvement to say the least but there price point is hard to beat if your on a budget.

    Hopefully if their LTE Network coverage will be better than their HSPA+.
    Sent from my SGH-T999 using AC Forums mobile app
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    07-10-2013 10:04 AM
  22. Clocks's Avatar
    I guess the WSJ had a story saying the moto X will be similarly priced with the competition, possibly $199 / $599. Saw it on droidlife.

    That would certainly rule me out for an off-contract purchase if true, especially of a midrange device.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD
    07-10-2013 08:24 PM
  23. thatotherdude24's Avatar
    I guess the WSJ had a story saying the moto X will be similarly priced with the competition, possibly $199 / $599. Saw it on droidlife.

    That would certainly rule me out for an off-contract purchase if true, especially of a midrange device.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD
    That would kill it for me. I was planning on getting one off contract.

    Although The Verge is reporting it will be in the $199 off contract range.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2
    07-10-2013 08:30 PM
  24. djw39's Avatar

    Although The Verge is reporting it will be in the $199 off contract range.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2
    Don't think that was "reporting" so much as "wild guess based on the price of the Nexus 4"


    Sent from my LG-LS970 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
    07-11-2013 11:45 AM
  25. thatotherdude24's Avatar
    Don't think that was "reporting" so much as "wild guess based on the price of the Nexus 4"


    Sent from my LG-LS970 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
    Nobody knows what the exact price will be but I have read a lot more of the $199/$599 numbers now


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2
    07-11-2013 11:54 AM
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