07-29-2013 08:46 AM
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  1. karn101's Avatar
    http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/...rketing-speak/

    Screenshots of the Moto X show the same processor MSM8960DT. The internals shared are very similar to the Droid phones which makes me wonder - how will they be able to keep the price point so low, especially on Verizon?

    The Ultra appears to be the Moto X in a different shell and will be 199 on contract and I believe 599 off contract.

    August 1st can't come soon enough. Your thoughts?

    Sent from my HTC6435LVW using Tapatalk 2
    07-23-2013 04:20 PM
  2. Ry's Avatar
    Motorola’s “8-core” X8 chip gives us a lesson in marketing-speak | Ars Technica

    Screenshots of the Moto X show the same processor MSM8960DT. The internals shared are very similar to the Droid phones which makes me wonder - how will they be able to keep the price point so low, especially on Verizon?

    The Ultra appears to be the Moto X in a different shell and will be 199 on contract and I believe 599 off contract.

    August 1st can't come soon enough. Your thoughts?

    Sent from my HTC6435LVW using Tapatalk 2
    Wait. Did I miss an official MOTO X price?
    07-23-2013 04:24 PM
  3. KWKSLVR's Avatar
    Remember too that there is probably going to be price difference between buying direct from Google or from a carrier. Wasn't there a Nexus device that costs out the yang if you bought it from ATT full price? N4?
    07-23-2013 04:27 PM
  4. NoYankees44's Avatar
    Wait. Did I miss an official MOTO X price?
    No someone "leaked" a price that the internet adopted as fact because they liked it...

    There has been 0 official anything for the xphone

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    07-23-2013 04:29 PM
  5. Ry's Avatar
    Remember too that there is probably going to be price difference between buying direct from Google or from a carrier. Wasn't there a Nexus device that costs out the yang if you bought it from ATT full price? N4?
    T-Mobile sells the Nexus 4 for $408.00.
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    07-23-2013 04:31 PM
  6. KWKSLVR's Avatar
    T-Mobile sells the Nexus 4 for $408.00.
    That must be what I'm thinking of.
    07-23-2013 04:48 PM
  7. karn101's Avatar
    Wait. Did I miss an official MOTO X price?
    No, nothing has been official, but based on many different factors, it is pretty well-assumed that it will be sold at a very enticing price point. As you can see, I never actually gave a price in my original post since it hasn't been officially announced.

    But I guess we will all find out in a little over a week.
    07-23-2013 05:01 PM
  8. Lanzeelus's Avatar
    No someone "leaked" a price that the internet adopted as fact because they liked it...

    There has been 0 official anything for the xphone

    Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T
    That's a very loose definition of leaked. I haven't seen a single piece of logical evidence supporting the low price point people have etched into their hearts. In fact, I've only seen evidence supporting the exact opposite:

    Google's Motorola Unit to Spend Up to $500 Million Marketing 'Moto X' Phone - WSJ.com

    The price of the Moto X is expected to be comparable to its competitors, which include Apple Inc.'s [...] iPhone 5, Samsung Electronics Co.'s [...] Galaxy S4, and HTC Corp.'s [...] One, these people said.

    Such devices cost $199 with a wireless contract and $599 or more without a contract.
    07-23-2013 05:12 PM
  9. jbruha's Avatar
    That's a very loose definition of leaked. I haven't seen a single piece of logical evidence supporting the low price point people have etched into their hearts. In fact, I've only seen evidence supporting the exact opposite:

    Google's Motorola Unit to Spend Up to $500 Million Marketing 'Moto X' Phone - WSJ.com
    Even that link only enabled people that read too far into it. Nowhere in it does it disclose or suggest the Moto X price. It only details the existing pricing for the Samsung Galaxy S IV and HTC One.

    The price of the Moto X is expected to be comparable to its competitors, which include Apple's iPhone 5, Samsung's Galaxy S4, and HTC's One, these people said.

    Such devices cost $199 with a wireless contract and $599 or more without a contract.
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    07-23-2013 05:17 PM
  10. Ry's Avatar
    No, nothing has been official, but based on many different factors, it is pretty well-assumed that it will be sold at a very enticing price point. As you can see, I never actually gave a price in my original post since it hasn't been officially announced.

    But I guess we will all find out in a little over a week.
    Could you share these different factors?
    07-23-2013 05:28 PM
  11. Lanzeelus's Avatar
    Even that link only enabled people that read too far into it. Nowhere in it does it disclose or suggest the Moto X price. It only details the existing pricing for the Samsung Galaxy S IV and HTC One.
    The important part is the part that says the prices is expected to be comparable to those devices. $99 on contract and $299 off is absolutely NOT comparable pricing. No, there's no exact price, but there's enough info there that would debunk this crazy "Motorola is gonna sell this device at a cost because they can totally afford to do that with their plummeting revenue!" rumor.
    07-23-2013 05:39 PM
  12. drhill's Avatar
    When the galaxy nexus came out it sold for $650 off contract but the parts cost, which doesn't cover assembly, r&d, marketing, etc, was around $190. If the US cellphone industry ever went like EU phone would not cost so much off contract.
    07-23-2013 07:35 PM
  13. karn101's Avatar
    The important part is the part that says the prices is expected to be comparable to those devices. $99 on contract and $299 off is absolutely NOT comparable pricing. No, there's no exact price, but there's enough info there that would debunk this crazy "Motorola is gonna sell this device at a cost because they can totally afford to do that with their plummeting revenue!" rumor.
    Their revenues are plummeting?

    2013 Financial Tables

    Could you share these different factors?
    Sure. Of course, it's all rumors but so far this is the general consensus.

    http://forums.androidcentral.com/mot...ns-google.html

    http://forums.androidcentral.com/mot...ealed-yet.html


    There's more, if you google it, but that guy was pretty spot on regarding the specs and in the video, they definitely hint towards a great priced phone. I can be entirely wrong along with the whole internet, but if it's the same price as current phones, then I don't see a reason to choose it over the HTC One or S4 (normal or Google Editions). To me, this is why I truly believe it will be aggressively priced.
    07-23-2013 09:33 PM
  14. Ry's Avatar
    Sure. Of course, it's all rumors but so far this is the general consensus.

    http://forums.androidcentral.com/mot...ns-google.html
    For this link, all I had to do was read Jerry's first reply.

    Project Roadrunner is awesome.


    http://forums.androidcentral.com/mot...ealed-yet.html


    There's more, if you google it, but that guy was pretty spot on regarding the specs and in the video, they definitely hint towards a great priced phone. I can be entirely wrong along with the whole internet, but if it's the same price as current phones, then I don't see a reason to choose it over the HTC One or S4 (normal or Google Editions). To me, this is why I truly believe it will be aggressively priced.
    All I see are hints that it will be priced "competitively" and people running with the idea that it will be sub-Nexus Google subsidized price.

    Posted via Android Central App
    07-23-2013 09:50 PM
  15. karn101's Avatar
    For this link, all I had to do was read Jerry's first reply. <snip>

    Yes, and his reply included this: "As far as any questions he has answered, those are common knowledge among the various "insiders" tipping all the blogs and tech writers."

    I'm not saying it's confirmed or 100% certain, but I'm going off what a lot of people in the industry have predicted and those people are a lot more knowledgeable than me and have much more inside information.

    Like I said, general consensus.
    07-23-2013 10:09 PM
  16. Ry's Avatar
    Yes, and his reply included this: "As far as any questions he has answered, those are common knowledge among the various "insiders" tipping all the blogs and tech writers."

    I'm not saying it's confirmed or 100% certain, but I'm going off what a lot of people in the industry have predicted and those people are a lot more knowledgeable than me and have much more inside information.

    Like I said, general consensus.
    "General consensus" is also we'll be able to pick our processor, and our RAM, and our storage...

    All the MOTO X has to do to be priced competitively is be around the $199 on-contract/$599 off-contract price that's typical of phones nowadays. Aggressively? All the MOTO X has to do is be lower than the $199/$599 standard.
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    07-23-2013 10:42 PM
  17. jbruha's Avatar
    Yes, and his reply included this: "As far as any questions he has answered, those are common knowledge among the various "insiders" tipping all the blogs and tech writers."

    I'm not saying it's confirmed or 100% certain, but I'm going off what a lot of people in the industry have predicted and those people are a lot more knowledgeable than me and have much more inside information.

    Like I said, general consensus.
    I'll add my vote to discredit that guy you posted from Google+. That's Taylor Wimberly formerly from Android and Me. While I admit his sources have been better recently than they have been in the past, his track record is marred by some major click bait that used to frequent that site. There's a famous post he put together when the Galaxy Nexus was all but rumors and it could not have been further from the final product. Just add salt, is all.
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    07-23-2013 11:44 PM
  18. Slusho64's Avatar
    Well in the D11 conference, Dennis Woodside said that Motorola wanted to make devices somewhere in between $30 feature phones and $650 flagship smartphones ("high quality, low-cost"), so if he wasn't talking about the Moto X, then what was he referring to?
    07-23-2013 11:59 PM
  19. phathands's Avatar
    For this link, all I had to do was read Jerry's first reply.

    Project Roadrunner is awesome.



    All I see are hints that it will be priced "competitively" and people running with the idea that it will be sub-Nexus Google subsidized price.

    Posted via Android Central App
    For real. I'm sick of these folks saying "Omg I want top of the line everything for $100 off contact OK plz and thx Google! #YOLO!!!"

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using AC Forums mobile app
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    07-24-2013 12:14 AM
  20. cabiggs152's Avatar
    My first Aosp ROM with very few mods, so smooth wrong thread guys my bad

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    Attached Thumbnails Moto X and Droid Ultra/Maxx share the same processor.-1374643768308.jpg  
    07-24-2013 12:29 AM
  21. Ry's Avatar
    Well in the D11 conference, Dennis Woodside said that Motorola wanted to make devices somewhere in between $30 feature phones and $650 flagship smartphones ("high quality, low-cost"), so if he wasn't talking about the Moto X, then what was he referring to?
    $30 to $650 is a really wide range.

    Posted via Android Central App
    07-24-2013 01:44 AM
  22. Slusho64's Avatar
    $30 to $650 is a really wide range.
    Yeah, but I don't think he meant he wanted to make phones that are just $50 cheaper than the others.
    07-24-2013 03:25 AM
  23. ChuckG73's Avatar
    $30 to $650 is a really wide range.

    Posted via Android Central App
    Well they have covered 699-499 with the DROTD line up. So now the game is only 499-30
    07-24-2013 05:37 AM
  24. NoYankees44's Avatar
    Lol there are some eternal optimists on here...

    Sent from my SCH-I535
    07-24-2013 06:34 AM
  25. Ry's Avatar
    How would Samsung, HTC, and LG react to a Motorola by Google undercutting even Nexus 4 prices? There are business reasons as to why Google can't and shouldn't blow up the Android hardware ecosystem.
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    07-24-2013 11:14 AM
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