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    Quote Originally Posted by tonymhoffman View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong...

    That imessage only allows you to send SMS to other apple users? Whereas moto connect can send to all? In that case it's apples to oranges in my opinion because youre trying to say having a limited amount of people you can connect with is better than connecting with anyone you choose.

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    They're not really the same, protocol wise. iMessage is basically a peer to peer internet messaging service. Motorola Connect uses your actually texting plan on your phone and is sending the message through your phone as an actual SMS.
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    Here's one, and the mail reason I'm thinking of dropping the Moto X and going back to the iPhone.
    The stock email app sucks. I use it for exchange/work email and it does not have conversation/threaded view - which for me is critical, given how many emails I get.

    I've looked through the Android app store, tried most of them, and I can't find a single email app that (a) Supports Exchange, (b) Has Conversation View, (c) Allows you to search for emails on the server, and (d) (this one is a nicety, but not necessary) allow you to search the Global Address Book. The iPhone and Windows Phone stock email app does all that! Out of the box!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dasarp View Post
    Here's one, and the mail reason I'm thinking of dropping the Moto X and going back to the iPhone.
    The stock email app sucks. I use it for exchange/work email and it does not have conversation/threaded view - which for me is critical, given how many emails I get.

    I've looked through the Android app store, tried most of them, and I can't find a single email app that (a) Supports Exchange, (b) Has Conversation View, (c) Allows you to search for emails on the server, and (d) (this one is a nicety, but not necessary) allow you to search the Global Address Book. The iPhone and Windows Phone stock email app does all that! Out of the box!
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    The thing that bothers me to no end about the iPhone 5/5s is the scratch-dent-knick prone soda-can-grade aluminum Apple chose to use to save a few ounces (because, you know, folks were really complaining that their iPhone 4s were just too heavy, right?). If you're a person that likes to keep their phone in reasonable condition you HAVE to use a case with the iPhone 5 because it'll scratch if you look at it too hard. ...if they'd just correct that it'd go a long way.
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    This has got to be the most mature thread in a forum discussing iOS and Android that I have ever read, and I've read a lot!
    iMessage is something I have longed for in Android, and it looks like we will get it with the update to hangouts in 4.4. I agree with the hardware comments and battery life. iOS has gotten that figured out very well, but don't forget about the HTC One. It has a great feel and it put together very well. Battery has a lot to do with the Kernel, and Moto on its first try even has went leaps and bounds over others. I plan to use my upgrade to buy a 5s, sell it and then buy the next Nexus. If it ends up not being as good as it appears to be, I'll buy a moto x direct from Moto Maker with the wood back and still be happy. Things look great in the mobile industry right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheIowaKid View Post
    This has got to be the most mature thread in a forum discussing iOS and Android that I have ever read, and I've read a lot.
    Our members at Android Central are the best, what did you expect?

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    Things look great in the mobile industry right now.
    Yes they do, yes they do indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tonymhoffman View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong...

    That imessage only allows you to send SMS to other apple users? Whereas moto connect can send to all? In that case it's apples to oranges in my opinion because youre trying to say having a limited amount of people you can connect with is better than connecting with anyone you choose.

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    Ahhh I forgot that... I just remember it being smoother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dregur View Post
    iMessage is basically a peer to peer internet messaging service.
    Yep. This is why I wish everyone I know would start using Hangouts--and why I wish Hangouts had SMS integration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ultravisitor View Post
    Yep. This is why I wish everyone I know would start using Hangouts--and why I wish Hangouts had SMS integration.
    It's reportedly coming with Kit Kat.
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    I just bought a new Moto X last week. I love the device. Awesome build quality and very comfortable to hold and talk on. I have never been a huge fan of the iPhone boxy shape since the 4 came out.

    But, a couple critical things that may have me returning the Moto X and picking up an iPhone 5s...

    1) Exchange integration for Android is lacking out of the box. Does not support contact sub-folders or multiple calendars. The main for each are the only ones that sync. This is really a deal breaker for me. I have tried all the recommended third party apps...Touchdown, Moxier, Enhanced Email, etc. Moxier was the only one that synced my contact sub-folders (and added them to standard phone/people apps) and my alternate calendars. I thought Moxier was the answer, but it didnt sync ALL calendars, just all my Exchange calendars. So as far as I can find there is no true all-in-one solution for email/contacts/calendars syncing from multiple places (exchange, google, hotmail,..) iPhone does all of this seamlessly out of the box. No hassles and app search headaches (I spent my weekend looking for Android apps that do what the iPhone does automatically).

    2) Group texting with iPhone friends is a nightmare on Android. This is all because of iMessage messing with standard SMS. And iOS 7 defaults to SMS off! Ouch Apple. But when you are on an iPhone you notice none of these issues cause everything just works. Trying to troubleshoot group texting on my new Moto X is more trouble than its worth. Tried Go SMS and other third party apps, same result as standard Android messaging app. If I was texting a group of iPhone users I would not be able to receive texts back because they were defaulting to a Group iMessage, not a Group SMS.

    Anyway, those two things just HAVE to work easily and with Android I found they definitely did not. I never even considered they would be absent from my Android experience because I just assumed they would work...seems pretty basic. Maybe thats cause I came from an iPhone and these things always just worked automatically. Again, I love the Moto X and I love alot of things about Android but was disappointed about the lack of some basic functionality. And I really wanted to ditch the iPhone and escape the Applesphere, but I have to concede it is a better product all around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wooglin View Post
    2) Group texting with iPhone friends is a nightmare on Android. This is all because of iMessage messing with standard SMS. And iOS 7 defaults to SMS off! Ouch Apple. But when you are on an iPhone you notice none of these issues cause everything just works. Trying to troubleshoot group texting on my new Moto X is more trouble than its worth. Tried Go SMS and other third party apps, same result as standard Android messaging app. If I was texting a group of iPhone users I would not be able to receive texts back because they were defaulting to a Group iMessage, not a Group SMS.
    Strange. I use Textra and group messaging with my iPhone friends is flawless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wooglin View Post
    2) Group texting with iPhone friends is a nightmare on Android. This is all because of iMessage messing with standard SMS. And iOS 7 defaults to SMS off! Ouch Apple. But when you are on an iPhone you notice none of these issues cause everything just works. Trying to troubleshoot group texting on my new Moto X is more trouble than its worth. Tried Go SMS and other third party apps, same result as standard Android messaging app. If I was texting a group of iPhone users I would not be able to receive texts back because they were defaulting to a Group iMessage, not a Group SMS.
    Sounds to me that people that use text should stay away from iphones unless they only know people with iphones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clankfu View Post
    Strange. I use Textra and group messaging with my iPhone friends is flawless.
    Will try Textra, thanks. Exchange issue remains though.

    Quote Originally Posted by scrounger View Post
    Sounds to me that people that use text should stay away from iphones unless they only know people with iphones.
    Yea, cause that's a viable solution....cmon now I thought we were being serious here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clankfu View Post
    Strange. I use Textra and group messaging with my iPhone friends is flawless.
    Just realized I had already tried Textra too...I've tried so many things I'm starting to forget what I've done already.

    Anyway...I just tested Textra again and it is not group messaging properly with iPhone, at least I cant get it to. The main problem I have is if I am only texting to iPhone users. If there is another non-iPhone in the group it seems to work ok. But when I text two iPhone users their return message defaults to iMessage and I do not receive it. Same problem as on standard Android text app. Strangely enough I just received a return text from one of the iPhones, but not the other. Seems to be an issue with the iPhone automatically switching over Group MMS instead of Group iMessage. One iPhone did this (although for the first time, I have been testing with the same iPhones for days) but the the other one did not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wooglin View Post
    If there is another non-iPhone in the group it seems to work ok. But when I text two iPhone users their return message defaults to iMessage and I do not receive it. Same problem as on standard Android text app. Strangely enough I just received a return text from one of the iPhones, but not the other. Seems to be an issue with the iPhone automatically switching over Group MMS instead of Group iMessage. One iPhone did this (although for the first time, I have been testing with the same iPhones for days) but the the other one did not.
    FYI that's not android fault--that's iPhone fault.

    Before you got rid of your iPhone did you disable imessage?


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    In the so called so many recent "studies and comparison" between the iphone 5s vs Moto X, they majority agree that they cannot determine a clear winner between these two. They are both good, the build idea and concept fits each design, and both run of OS's that are now familiar to majority of the users... it now really boils down to owners preference, and not really due to because one phone is lacking while the other one isn't. Mobile phones market has grown and matured so much since the first iphone that they are almost all not too different than the other.

    For me it was an easy choice for Moto X had several key things that made me a supporter of it. (1) its mfg in America (2) its a Google + Motorola first collaboration. These things i want to support. I was lucky to find that the build quality is great, its a heavier feel that I like; very snappy and does everything I want. I don't have to worry as much about knicks and scratches. Its a phone that is inconspicuous, isn't big like a well known S4, or coveted iPhone where having it stolen is more likely.

    I think at the end, its a phone, we talk about them, its an interesting industry to analysis, but at the end, its use whatever you are happy and comfortable with!
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    Quote Originally Posted by phositadc View Post
    FYI that's not android fault--that's iPhone fault.

    Before you got rid of your iPhone did you disable imessage?
    I agree, it is iMessages fault, and I am not happy with Apple for this because I love the Moto X. But doesn't really matter whose fault it is, it should just work and it doesn't with Android. I disabled iMessage (still have the old iPhone). The fact that you have to do that in and of itself is ridiculous. Problem one fixed....now texts come to my Moto X instead of my old iPhone. Then I have had to tell my iPhone friends to make sure SMS is enabled...really? Single texting solved. Now group messaging...testing back and forth...different apps...mixed results all over. But NONE have worked as they should. I'm sure it would work just fine if I group texted with only non-iPhone users so iMessage wouldn't get in the way. But I don't, and I don't know who does.

    The group texting problem is secondary to the Exchange syncing issues. This by itself has me heading back to iPhone. Unless Android fixes it within the next 5 days...and I have seen people complaining about this for 2 years.

    Someone please help me fix these two things and I will gladly keep my Moto X.
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    I can't help but feel the engineering staff at Motorola took a lot of queues from Apple engineering when they made the Moto X. They only added the hardware needed to do the job well. They didn't use the fastest processor or the highest res screen, they used exactly what is needed to give a great user experience. Then they considered how the phone should feel in the hand and did an amazing job. The back is rounded yet won't rock if you want to text with it laying on a flat surface. The speaker on the back is better then it being on the bottom from my experience so far. I went from an iphone 4 to a Moto X. When I got the iphone 4 just under three years go it was the best smart phone made by a mile. I've never been an Apple fan but the phone was amazing. The build quality was so very impressive. I have since used a few iphone 5's, they just aren't as impressive to me. They still build great hardware though and if you're into the whole Apple eco-system no reason to not go with an iphone 5s.
    I honestly believe if Steve Jobs were still alive he would be impressed with the Moto X, he would never admit it of course.

    btw, I'll take active notifications and touchless control over a fingerprint reader any day. If Apple had released the Moto X it would have taken the world by storm. I don't use a passcode lock though, if I did then the fingerprint reader would hold more value for me.
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    Great thread everyone. Wooglin, I would like you to try something. your friends that have iPhones used to send you iMessages until you go the Moto x. Have them Delete your old contact that was associated with iMessage and have them create a new contact and send them a normal person to person text. THEIR iPhones should no longer try to default as iMessage and that may fix one fo your issues.
    I do agree tho, the iPhone email client is the best in the business. I can't believe that to this day Android hasn't tackled Native (GOOD) email clients that support more than Gmail, and Native Visual Voicemail that isn't a 3rd party app. (I use AT&T vvm app)
    I am lucky that I don't have an exchange acct, so the native email on android works with all my emails including the me.com's and icloud.com's

    One advantage I would like to point of for iMessage are pictures aren't compressed. Texts on android are. Not a super big deal tho.
    I know one thing for certain. The Moto X is the best experience I have ever had with any android device (over all) It's not perfect, but dam near it.
    I thought about returning the Moto X and just sticking with my iPhone. But something strange happened. I found that when I go to grab one of the two phones sitting in front of me, iPhone 5S and Moto X, I grabbed the Moto first, every single time.
    It may be the most perfect phone as far as size and feel ever made. It may not have over-the-top specs but the phone Never ever lags or stutters no matter what I am doing with it.
    The always on screen is one of the best features ever added to a phone. I am So glad I tried this phone. I almost grabbed the S4 for the 2nd time when I walked into AT&T 7 days ago.
    I thought, why not try Moto, I can return it and grab S4 if I didn't like it. I couldn't be happier with my choice. Moto X is a superb phone with an excellent user experience over-all.

    There are some things that iOS simply does better than android, but by the same token, there are some things the Moto/android does that iPhone may never do.
    Someone earlier said it best. Both are great devices here. There is no True winner between the two OS'. The Win comes from consumers having both to chose from.

    Wish people would stop looking at specs and give the Moto X a try. Such an amazing device. Other than stuff like facebook, starbucks etc, I use stock everything. (message app, email app etc)
    iOS and Android are BOTH great. iPhone 3, 3GS, 4, 4s, 5, 5c, 5S, iPhone 6+, LG G2, LG Optimus G Pro, S3, S4, Note 3, Moto X, Nokia 520, Nokia 1520 (8.1)..
    Currently using 2014 MOTO X
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    Hangouts is another really obvious cross platform service that has no opportunity for crossed messages and doesn't compress videos, pictures, etc.
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    My 5S is going back as soon as my Moto X arrives. I just don't like iOS so despite the great camera and finger print scanner, it just wasn't enough to swing me over to Apple.
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    I'm in the same boat!! Though I'm torned between Moto X and Samsung Galaxy s4...I'm going from RAZR Maxx. I love Moto products and now that Moto is owned by Google I feel the Moto X also built in the USA will have some future advantages for updates and features. Though I'm not crazy not being able to expand the memory on the Moto X or remove the battery. Though my Maxx has never been an issue with a sealed battery. The S4 seems more bells and whistles which I am a bells and whistles type guy....And honestly have to say have taking a liking to a bigger screen for entrainment and app purposes. I just don't know! Any opinions on S4 or Moto X would be highly appreciated!!! Thanks in advance!! Dont mean to take away from the iPhone....But I would be lying if I said Im not anti apple...lol We live in a Google world now. ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidfox4u View Post
    I'm in the same boat!! Though I'm torned between Moto X and Samsung Galaxy s4...I'm going from RAZR Maxx. I love Moto products and now that Moto is owned by Google I feel the Moto X also built in the USA will have some future advantages for updates and features. Though I'm not crazy not being able to expand the memory on the Moto X or remove the battery. Though my Maxx has never been an issue with a sealed battery. The S4 seems more bells and whistles which I am a bells and whistles type guy....And honestly have to say have taking a liking to a bigger screen for entrainment and app purposes. I just don't know! Any opinions on S4 or Moto X would be highly appreciated!!! Thanks in advance!! Dont mean to take away from the iPhone....But I would be lying if I said Im not anti apple...lol We live in a Google world now. ;-)

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    Having owned both I can agree it's a tough choice. I prefer the Moto X because its basically stock android with some great useful features.
    If you are a bells and whistles person, I would go with the S4. It has every bell and whistle ever put on a smartphone.

    Experience Moto > S4
    Camera S4 > Moto (S4 camera rocks)
    Screen S4 > Moto
    Features S4 > Moto
    Useful (i.e Feature someone might actually use more than once) Moto > S4.

    Size: Tie. Honestly they both are near perfect in the hand. I will give a slight edge to the Moto because of the curved back and smooth edges.

    I am one of the few that actually likes TouchWiz even tho it cause all samsung phones to lag. People are blind or lying if they say the S4 doesn't lag. (or it could be they have never owned anything but samsung and don't understand what a smooth OS is like) (i.e iOS 6)
    My brother just went from iPhone to an S4 and traded it off within 3 weeks of owning it. He said it lagged way too much for him. ( and he likes samsung )
    Myself, I could deal with the lag simply because I like the phone.

    But all said and done. Moto X is awesome, soooo happy with it. IMO Moto x > S4 but that is 100% personal preference.
    If I could make my own device: Moto X with a 4.8" LG IPS 1080p screen, Samsungs camera with a mix of iOS and Touchwiz camera software. nom nom nom
    iOS and Android are BOTH great. iPhone 3, 3GS, 4, 4s, 5, 5c, 5S, iPhone 6+, LG G2, LG Optimus G Pro, S3, S4, Note 3, Moto X, Nokia 520, Nokia 1520 (8.1)..
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    A note on the stock email app vis a vis exchange:

    I've been using the moto x since day one with my work exchange account. It doesn't have an option to search the GAL directly, but I've found that if I type the name of who I'm sending the email to in the address bar it will pull up the correct email from the GAL (although it will usually cycle through any relevant phone contacts first). This method hasn't failed me yet.

    I can also access sub-folders in my exchange account. Not sure why you can't.

    I can't help you with your calender problem, however. The stock calender app has no problem syncing my work exchange based calender and my personal gmail calender and integrating the two. I don't have multiple exchange calenders so I can't help you with that problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dasarp View Post
    I've looked through the Android app store, tried most of them, and I can't find a single email app that (a) Supports Exchange, (b) Has Conversation View, (c) Allows you to search for emails on the server, and (d) (this one is a nicety, but not necessary) allow you to search the Global Address Book. The iPhone and Windows Phone stock email app does all that! Out of the box!
    I do all four of your requirements with Touchdown. Our exchange server was upgraded from 2007 to 2010 about a year ago, so I know it can work with both versions. I use the ActiveSync option.

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