01-30-2014 11:39 PM
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  1. anon(464338)'s Avatar
    I was just thinking I have a note 2, an iphone 5, 4s and an HTC One in the house belonging to my wife and kids. I use these every now and then when my X is charging or whatever and when I come back to the X, I'm so amazed how fluid the phone performs comparatively . I'm mostly noticing the scrolling compared to other Android devices but it is also surprising to see it also keep up with iPhone. So I know the phone is Hella optimized but why dont other makers make their phones more like we'll.. Iphone? .. as much as I hate to say. The experience is soo much more enjoyable. Is it the flashing higher specs and marketing fooling everyone?? What's the point in high specs if it performs like a turd? This phone has taught me a lot!

    Posted via Android Central App
    01-27-2014 01:56 PM
  2. still1's Avatar
    .. That make this phone so darn smooth?? I was just thinking I have a note 2, an iphone 5, 4s and an HTC One in the house belonging to my wife and kids. I use these every now and then when my X is charging or whatever and when I come back to the X, I'm so amazed how fluid the phone performs comparatively . I'm mostly noticing the scrolling compared to other Android devices but it is also surprising to see it also keep up with iPhone. So I know the phone is Hella optimized but why dont other makers make their phones more like we'll.. Iphone? .. as much as I hate to say. The experience is soo much more enjoyable. Is it the flashing higher specs and marketing fooling everyone?? What's the point in high specs if it performs like a turd? This phone has taught me a lot!

    Posted via Android Central App
    +1 lot of people complain about lower spec but in fact the processor is an optimized Quad core chip. while other phones are quad core but the additional 2 cores never get used(except in hard core games).

    for example the contextual processing core is used to handle things like the screen, sensors and touch elements( optimzed quad core)

    here is why its smooth

    1. Pure Android and less bloats unlike TouchWiz and LG's Skin
    2. Moto X specific optimization. infact developers are using Moto X specific optimization for building ROMs for other devices
    3. GPU is very powerful and it is optimized

    Performance preview: The Moto X sports a great GPU, respectable CPU | Ars Technica


    Some Spec junkies never understand this.. all they want is bigger battery instead of long lasting battery. higher core instead of smooth device. higher ppi instead of high quality screen
    Ry, jephanie and mumfoau like this.
    01-27-2014 02:49 PM
  3. ballisticn8's Avatar
    And this is why I'm trying to sell my Note 3 to pick up a Moto X, lol...
    lexfrancis likes this.
    01-27-2014 03:41 PM
  4. CompMan2012's Avatar
    And this is why I'm trying to sell my Note 3 to pick up a Moto X, lol...
    I'll trade with ya! In trying to get rid of my X

    Sent from my XT1053 using AC Forums mobile app
    01-27-2014 03:47 PM
  5. jlgraham's Avatar
    Anandtech has some really detailed performance breakdowns in their review of the Moto X. They compare the processor performance to a lot of other phones.

    If you want to see it compared to the iPhone, look up their review of the iPhone 5s, since that came out afterwards. In many areas, the Moto X meets or exceeds the performance of Apple's new chip.

    AnandTech | Moto X Review
    Ry likes this.
    01-27-2014 04:15 PM
  6. someguy01234's Avatar
    I ran benchmarks of the Moto X at the store and even with all the stuff installed it outperform my Nexus 4 which is highly modified. So the Moto X is no slouch in term of performance. One reason that persuade me to get it.
    01-27-2014 05:34 PM
  7. fernandez21's Avatar
    I would say one of the big reasons is the lower resolution. While the other flagships are trying to push out 1080p, the moto x only has to do 720p which taxes the GPU less. The GPU is also the same found in the HTC One and Galaxy S4, and is more powerful than the one found in the Note 2. Plus the software is really optimized, my Moto X runs smoother than my Note 3, even though my Note has a more powerful processor and GPU.
    dmark44 and GadgetGator like this.
    01-27-2014 05:48 PM
  8. phillygoat's Avatar
    I'll trade with ya! In trying to get rid of my X
    Trade for an HTC One instead?
    01-27-2014 06:24 PM
  9. dmark44's Avatar
    +1 lot of people complain about lower spec but in fact the processor is an optimized Quad core chip. while other phones are quad core but the additional 2 cores never get used(except in hard core games).
    Yes! Thank you! Plus, it's not surprising that in the time that Moto developed and produced their X8 system that the chip manufacturers released newer versions of their chips.

    Sent from my Moto X
    01-27-2014 07:29 PM
  10. ultravisitor's Avatar
    my Moto X runs smoother than my Note 3, even though my Note has a more powerful processor and GPU.
    Shhh! They'll hear you and then come here and start complaining!
    01-27-2014 07:33 PM
  11. Aquila's Avatar
    The Moto X is low spec'd? Aside from the screen resolution, I'd say anyone claiming it is low or midrange "spec'd" doesn't understand how specs work. And that's before the obvious fact that they have no clue how specs relate to performance. If the X8 can out perform just about every S600 (same chip, 2 more cores) and many S800s, it's clearly the more innovative processor.
    still1, Golfdriver97 and dmark44 like this.
    01-28-2014 04:37 AM
  12. greg_atlanta's Avatar
    The scrolling feels slow to me compared to iphone. Is there a way to speed it up?
    01-28-2014 07:40 AM
  13. brian7751's Avatar
    Do u mean scrolling is slower like choppy or when you flick it doesnt scroll down the page fast enough
    01-28-2014 08:19 AM
  14. ETPhoneHomeT's Avatar
    The scrolling feels slow to me compared to iphone. Is there a way to speed it up?
    Two options that you might try:
    1) Go into Developer options and there are settings you can adjust for animation scale faster or slower.
    Here's a link on how to enable Developer options on the Moto X if you haven't already: https://motorola-global-portal.custh...ug/action/auth
    2) Install a 3rd party launcher. I have Nova Prime and it has adjustments for scrolling speeds in the settings.
    greg_atlanta likes this.
    01-28-2014 09:03 AM
  15. ballisticn8's Avatar
    Two options that you might try:
    1) Go into Developer options and there are settings you can adjust for animation scale faster or slower.
    Here's a link on how to enable Developer options on the Moto X if you haven't already: https://motorola-global-portal.custh...ug/action/auth
    2) Install a 3rd party launcher. I have Nova Prime and it has adjustments for scrolling speeds in the settings.
    **NOVA SPEED!!!!!!** lol.

    Seriously though Nova has a ton of options, and I know there are other launchers but Nova is what I'm familiar with so I'll add to the post above.

    Scroll Speeds in Nova are as follows:

    Relaxed - Sit back and enjoy the beautiful animations
    Stock - Google knows best, speeds that match the standard Android Launcher
    Nova - Nova
    Fast - Speed takes clear priority over animations
    Faster than light - Forget animations, make it fast

    The stock launchers have a specific lag speed for transitions and animations built into it. You can go around that using the dev settings or install a third party launcher like Nova, your call.
    greg_atlanta likes this.
    01-28-2014 10:29 AM
  16. ballisticn8's Avatar
    I'll trade with ya! In trying to get rid of my X

    Sent from my XT1053 using AC Forums mobile app
    If we were local and could meet face to face I'd possibly take you up on that. Unfortunately family and work require that I not be without a phone and the deal locally that I had for a 32 gig Moto X and $ for my Note 3 fell through so I'm going to be rocking the Note 3 until I can work something out.
    01-28-2014 10:32 AM
  17. Ry's Avatar
    It feels like Motorola used software optimization to provide a smooth experience rather than just throw the highest-end specs at the project.
    mumfoau likes this.
    01-28-2014 12:58 PM
  18. ultravisitor's Avatar
    It feels like Motorola used software optimization to provide a smooth experience rather than just throw the highest-end specs at the project.
    But MOAR CORES!! Who cares about optimization when they can play the Samsung and LG game of MOAR CORES?
    Ry and Patrick Schroedl like this.
    01-28-2014 02:00 PM
  19. sooner7's Avatar
    I don't know what they did to optimize this thing but on ART, the Moto X is equal to the iPhone 5s in fluidity.
    01-28-2014 02:26 PM
  20. Patrick Schroedl's Avatar
    It feels like Motorola used software optimization to provide a smooth experience rather than just throw the highest-end specs at the project.
    I recognize this is a fairly common sentiment. Motorola's efforts to favor 'the experience over the specs' at the risk of oversimplifying the issue were successful not only due to the hardware-critical features they built, but the software optimizations as well. The Moto X includes an optimized version of Dalvik authored by Qualcomm (which is also available for the Nexus devices by the way).

    Here's my question, though: for those who perceive the Moto X's performance to be superior to that of other recent flagships, how does the introduction of ART on either side change the comparison?
    Aquila likes this.
    01-29-2014 01:05 AM
  21. Aquila's Avatar
    Here's my question, though: for those who perceive the Moto X's performance to be superior to that of other recent flagships, how does the introduction of ART on either side change the comparison?
    That's a big hangup for me, because I've switched between them several times now and I'm honestly not sure I can tell the difference on any given day without looking or trying to remember which button I hit last. If I wake up, do a couple of things on 230 apps... I have no idea without seriously considering what I've done to it.
    Patrick Schroedl likes this.
    01-29-2014 01:16 AM
  22. Patrick Schroedl's Avatar
    That's a big hangup for me, because I've switched between them several times now and I'm honestly not sure I can tell the difference on any given day without looking or trying to remember which button I hit last. If I wake up, do a couple of things on 230 apps... I have no idea without seriously considering what I've done to it.
    We aren't far off from the point where improvements in software efficiency, though potentially very impressive, are beyond the scope of perceptible performance gains for daily use (speaking in context of responsiveness, compiling and loading delays, smoothness... all that).
    01-29-2014 02:27 AM
  23. mumfoau's Avatar
    I'm so thankful that the only spec I've ever cared about was battery life!

    Sent from my Moto X using Tapatalk
    GadgetGator likes this.
    01-29-2014 04:04 AM
  24. sooner7's Avatar
    Here's my answer to the ART question. It makes apps open instantaneously and the phone is so fluid...I never see framerate drops with ART enabled. It alone has coaxed me away from Xposed with mods because of how smooth it is.
    01-29-2014 09:41 AM
  25. Wildo6882's Avatar
    We aren't far off from the point where improvements in software efficiency, though potentially very impressive, are beyond the scope of perceptible performance gains for daily use (speaking in context of responsiveness, compiling and loading delays, smoothness... all that).
    I think this is where phones are heading. In day to day use, how much faster can they actually open in app, scroll through a page, switch to a different app, etc., to where we can actually notice and perceive the speed with our eyes? The same thing can be said with screen technology. When using a phone a couple feet away from your face, you won't perceive much difference between 720p and 4K. From a greater distance, as in viewing a TV, the differences are more noticeable. Sure companies will be able to say "our phone has a 4K screen!!!!" But how much will you actually notice in day to day use? I'm guessing it will be minimal at best.
    mbar9607 likes this.
    01-29-2014 09:50 AM
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