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    Default Moto X: The camera on this phone is an absolute joke

    I obtained a $100 coupon for the Moto X so figured I'd give it a shot (Walnut/Black/Silver) to see how it compared to my Nexus 5. I was intrigued by active notifications and Moto Assist and thought they would be really useful features for me. I've had the phone for 3 days now and it's a really great device. My one major complaint (as in deal breaker bad) is the fact that the camera on this phone is pathetic. It's pretty much on the same level as an iPhone 4 from 3.5 years ago which is totally unacceptable.

    I use my phone camera a lot...especially being that I'm a new father and without significant improvement, I can't justify switching from the N5. Now being that this is a 10 MP shooter with seemingly decent specs, I'm surprised that the camera can be this poor. Does anyone know if there are any plans for this camera to be upgraded via software anytime soon? I know they released an upgrade via the Play Store soon after release but this assessment is post update. I also know what camera software is capable of b/c the update to the N5 camera was basically night & day. I'm REALLY hoping this can be fixed b/c aside from the camera performance, this is a really great phone.
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    Default Re: The camera on this phone is an absolute joke

    have you updated the camera app from play store?? The initial version was pathetic but they have improved it a lot since the initial release

    Its not the best of the best but they are good enough for a smartphone camera, at least for me.
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    Default Re: The camera on this phone is an absolute joke

    Perhaps posting some shots? Other users can look at them and see what may be going on. I agree the camera isn't great, but I don't think it's that bad. You may have a faulty camera.

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    Default Re: The camera on this phone is an absolute joke

    Quote Originally Posted by still1 View Post
    have you updated the camera app from play store?? The initial version was pathetic but they have improved it a lot since the initial release

    Its not the best of the best but they are good enough for a smartphone camera, at least for me.
    From my OP:
    I know they released an upgrade via the Play Store soon after release but this assessment is post update.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Golfdriver97 View Post
    Perhaps posting some shots? Other users can look at them and see what may be going on. I agree the camera isn't great, but I don't think it's that bad. You may have a faulty camera.
    I'll try to post some shots when I get home tonight. But my issue is when the lighting isn't ideal the shots are completely grainy and the colors are muted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by el3ctronics View Post
    I obtained a $100 coupon for the Moto X so figured I'd give it a shot (Walnut/Black/Silver) to see how it compared to my Nexus 5. I was intrigued by active notifications and Moto Assist and thought they would be really useful features for me. I've had the phone for 3 days now and it's a really great device. My one major complaint (as in deal breaker bad) is the fact that the camera on this phone is pathetic. It's pretty much on the same level as an iPhone 4 from 3.5 years ago which is totally unacceptable.

    I use my phone camera a lot...especially being that I'm a new father and without significant improvement, I can't justify switching from the N5. Now being that this is a 10 MP shooter with seemingly decent specs, I'm surprised that the camera can be this poor. Does anyone know if there are any plans for this camera to be upgraded via software anytime soon? I know they released an upgrade via the Play Store soon after release but this assessment is post update. I also know what camera software is capable of b/c the update to the N5 camera was basically night & day. I'm REALLY hoping this can be fixed b/c aside from the camera performance, this is a really great phone.
    It won't get much better i'm afraid.
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    Default Re: The camera on this phone is an absolute joke

    Quote Originally Posted by paisley99 View Post
    It won't get much better i'm afraid.
    My only question is how was Google about to improve the Nexus 5 so dramatically with a software update and Motorola can't? The hardware seems to be quite capable so why can't the software be optimized?
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    Quote Originally Posted by el3ctronics View Post
    My only question is how was Google about to improve the Nexus 5 so dramatically with a software update and Motorola can't? The hardware seems to be quite capable so why can't the software be optimized?
    In the end the difference is the hardware. Moto had software improvements and it went from really bad to ok.
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    I feel like it can still be fixed with software updates. I've seen plenty good pictures from the Moto X around the internet so it seems like the camera is capable. Could be wrong... I had a GNex before this so anything new was going to be better for me.
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    Default Re: The camera on this phone is an absolute joke

    If you use the camera a lot as you said and the photos matter for more than just posing to media, then I would agree that the Moto X is a gamble. While I like the interface better than the Nexus 5, The Nexus 5 is slightly better in terms of quality IMO. For me neither were really good enough so I got a Lumia 925. I swap the SIM on the weekend and just carry as a camera in my backpack during the week or when I travel. The lumia camera is so much better and although the apps on WP are not quite to the point I can stay on WP, I like having both devices.
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    Default Re: The camera on this phone is an absolute joke

    Post up some shots.
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    Default Re: The camera on this phone is an absolute joke

    Moto X: The camera on this phone is an absolute joke-img_20140201_174620162.jpg

    Here's a picture of a couple of pulks I had just finished building. This was (admittedly) in my garage, but it was well-lit and the door was open on a relatively bright day.

    It's a good snapshot camera. I love being able to twist my hand twice, locked or no, and being ready to take a photo a second or two later. I can capture photos that I'd otherwise miss with that feature.

    But... is an image like this worth capturing?

    This is using the default HDR - I haven't changed a single setting.

    I also haven't gone out of my way to find an update in the play store - I show that I have an app called "Motorola Camera" from December 17 2013 installed. Is that the latest?
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    Default Re: Moto X: The camera on this phone is an absolute joke

    I've been using Procapture app and seem to get better results than the stock camera especially using the 16 x 10 picture size. (not sure why). The exposure is usually better.
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    I had the same experience. The moto x camera can give great results in good lighting. But the Nexus 5 does much better in a dimly lit room (probably due to the Nexus 5 having OIS). I found the moto X interface simpler and quicker shot-to-shot, but results indoors with low/medium light were poor. Ironically I found the moto x gave better results with video recording, but that is due to the static noise bug on the Nexus 5 when recording with low ambient noise.
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    Default Re: Moto X: The camera on this phone is an absolute joke

    Yea the x camera is pretty bad. I didn't take many pictures when i had one but I still thought it was barely serviceable at best.

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    Default Re: Moto X: The camera on this phone is an absolute joke

    I'm going to try and post some shots later with the N5 vs. the X. It's definitely not just a slight difference...it seems the Nexus 5 is MUUUUUH better than my Moto X in almost all lighting conditions. It almost looks like there's a fuzzy white filter over the X camera on most shots that I also see in natehoy's sample image above. The pictures just looked washed out with no color to them.
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    Default Re: Moto X: The camera on this phone is an absolute joke

    Here are some quick comparison shots:

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    nexus 5 (auto, no flash)
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    moto x (auto, no flash)
    Moto X: The camera on this phone is an absolute joke-x_tree_no_flash.jpg
    nexus 5 (auto, no flash)
    Moto X: The camera on this phone is an absolute joke-n5_tree_no_flash.jpg
    moto x (auto w flash)
    Moto X: The camera on this phone is an absolute joke-x_tree_flash.jpg
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    Moto X: The camera on this phone is an absolute joke-n5_tree_flash.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by el3ctronics View Post
    I'll try to post some shots when I get home tonight. But my issue is when the lighting isn't ideal the shots are completely grainy and the colors are muted.
    That is because the phone raise the ISO level in low light condition. If you don't want graininess, use a third party camera app and manually adjust the ISO value. Or sell the Moto X and buy the HTC One.

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    Default Re: Moto X: The camera on this phone is an absolute joke

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinity View Post
    Here are some quick comparison shots:

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    Thank you for these pics as it demonstrates exactly what I'm talking about. It looks like there is a white, grainy filter on top of all low light images. It kills picture quality in all but ideal lighting conditions and makes the camera virtually unusable.
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    Default Re: The camera on this phone is an absolute joke

    Might try cleaning the lens, too. A couple of your pics the whites look smudged - that might be grease on your lens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasoraso View Post
    Might try cleaning the lens, too. A couple of your pics the whites look smudged - that might be grease on your lens.
    My device is brand new and the pics look the same. It's definitely not grease on the lens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasoraso View Post
    Might try cleaning the lens, too. A couple of your pics the whites look smudged - that might be grease on your lens.
    Wasn't the case in my sample photos, both were cleaned prior to taking them. It's the way the camera handles low light. If I was to take pictures outside they look very nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by el3ctronics View Post
    My device is brand new and the pics look the same. It's definitely not grease on the lens.
    I've had similar shots and kept thinking it was dirty but no matter how much i cleaned it that's how they came out. lol.
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    Ok.... I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere in the post, but have you tried the following method....

    In the latest camera app, auto-white balance can be manually adjusted. I uploaded a video for demo purposes.... but try to fix the auto-white and then take a photo. As you can see in the video, dragging the focus circle will help adjust the iso white balancing.

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    Some additional samples. Again, I am not bashing the moto x - it really is a great phone. It's just the camera really does need very good lighting to produce decent results in my experience. While the nexus 5 isn't a great camera either, it is better than the moto x (in low light) in my opinion.

    moto x (flash)
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