02-13-2014 10:26 AM
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  1. PiggyMiddle's Avatar
    Is it just me, or could some app makers be faking their positive review counts?

    I was looking at an app in the Play Store that I thought might be good to have. It had 1500+ 5-star count reviews so I read through a few and it all looked good. Being the cynical old fart that I am, I loaded a bunch more "Reviews" and after about five pages of lengthy ones, I started getting one or two-word 5-star reviews. I counted to ten-pages and still they kept coming so at that point I quit looking further as it sure as hell was not getting installed on my X.

    Now, to this cynical old fart, those one/two word-ers looked like paid-for pluses.

    As always, before installing apps, Caveat Emptor.

    Thoughts?
    02-08-2014 10:38 AM
  2. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    Is it just me, or could some app makers be faking their positive review counts?

    I was looking at an app in the Play Store that I thought might be good to have. It had 1500+ 5-star count reviews so I read through a few and it all looked good. Being the cynical old fart that I am, I loaded a bunch more "Reviews" and after about five pages of lengthy ones, I started getting one or two-word 5-star reviews. I counted to ten-pages and still they kept coming so at that point I quit looking further as it sure as hell was not getting installed on my X.

    Now, to this cynical old fart, those one/two word-ers looked like paid-for pluses.

    As always, before installing apps, Caveat Emptor.

    Thoughts?
    I am inclined to agree. Most of my apps are either highly recommended by many other users here, have been showcased either by AC or some other outlet (like a TV talk show, news report, etc), or are Google apps.
    02-08-2014 10:50 AM
  3. 4runnerbrett's Avatar
    Ya i have been curious lately about that and also some of the permissions these apps have.
    02-08-2014 12:28 PM
  4. someguy01234's Avatar
    It's possible there's nothing stopping them from having multiple Gmail accounts.

    Most people leave a one star for one minute thing that they don't like, so it could be for an older versions.

    It's simple for me, just get apps from good devs only and avoid junk apps.

    sent via my Le Motonovo X
    02-08-2014 12:54 PM
  5. louisstone's Avatar
    I am inclined to agree. Most of my apps are either highly recommended by many other users here, have been showcased either by AC or some other outlet (like a TV talk show, news report, etc), or are Google apps.
    That's pretty much what I do as well. Especially if I'm considering paying for something.

    --
    Somebody, somewhere, right now is stuffing Twinkies in their shorts.
    02-08-2014 01:40 PM
  6. ShlomoX's Avatar
    Especially for apps that pester, to get it over with I could see reviews with few words being the rule rather than the exception.

    But whether apps, amazon, tripadvisor or yelp, reviews are now a huge part of marketing which translates to money.

    I've heard a lot of folks say that they would always recognize a toupee. I had a friend who lost his hair young and got a toupee, excuse me - a hair replacement system, and I could see how strangers reacted to him, nobody knew.

    So be it toupees or reviews I think the truth is that people know it when they see it and they don't know it when they don't see it.

    The proportion of reviews that are fakes is mind blowing.
    02-08-2014 03:04 PM
  7. Puzzlegal's Avatar
    Does it bother anyone else that Google now requires reviews to use your G+ name? I have an unusual first name, and while I don't mind if my friends see that my reviews are from me, I don't like the idea that an random stranger could be tracking what apps I download. I don't even download very exciting apps (mostly incredibly popular ones, and a few mindless games), it's just creepy.
    02-09-2014 09:26 AM
  8. PiggyMiddle's Avatar
    @ Puzzlegal:

    Could a person not have two G+ accounts - one with a fake name they use only for reviews and comments etc?

    Personally, I have none of that social clap trap as it is ONLY of REAL benefit to the data miners/brokers of the world. I would strongly suggest you do some research and fully understand just what you are giving up when you sign up for G+, FB, Twitter et al using a real name.
    02-09-2014 10:32 AM
  9. vzwuser76's Avatar
    Ya i have been curious lately about that and also some of the permissions these apps have.
    The scariest one I've seen yet was from the NFL Mobile app. It said "Add or modify calendar events and send emails to guests without owner's knowledge, read calendar events plus confidential information". I know that's what it said because I saved a screenshot, reason being I knew Verizon would never own up to it without proof. When I asked about it, they said that was someone else who writes apps, Verizon doesn't write any of the apps themselves. THAT'S comforting!!!
    02-09-2014 11:18 AM
  10. Cozume's Avatar
    Does it bother anyone else that Google now requires reviews to use your G+ name? I have an unusual first name, and while I don't mind if my friends see that my reviews are from me, I don't like the idea that an random stranger could be tracking what apps I download. I don't even download very exciting apps (mostly incredibly popular ones, and a few mindless games), it's just creepy.
    change the name on your G+ account to be an initial or a nickname.
    02-09-2014 02:18 PM
  11. Puzzlegal's Avatar
    I think that's a violation of the customer agreement. G+ is real-names only. And I don't have any real nick names, I'd have to just make something up. But maybe I should try it anyway.

    When I signed up for G+, Google hadn't linked all their services. And I like that my friends can recognize me. I already use a picture that isn't my face, I don't really want to have to use a name that isn't my name, too.

    For now, I've just stopped writing reviews. Which is sad, because I sort of like writing reviews, and get a lot of "helpful" votes for my reviews in other venues. But it's just not worth it to me.
    02-09-2014 03:37 PM
  12. Puzzlegal's Avatar
    @ Puzzlegal:

    Could a person not have two G+ accounts - one with a fake name they use only for reviews and comments etc?

    Personally, I have none of that social clap trap as it is ONLY of REAL benefit to the data miners/brokers of the world. I would strongly suggest you do some research and fully understand just what you are giving up when you sign up for G+, FB, Twitter et al using a real name.
    Well, it uses the one that you have linked to your phone. Yeah, if I were entering the android world today, I would create a new gmail address that I didn't give anyone, and that I only used to interact with google. But I think it's too late to do that.
    02-09-2014 03:39 PM
  13. mrsmumbles's Avatar
    I have more than one gmail account and I can write reviews with either one... One is my real name and the 2nd is a pseudonym I created specifically for being able to navigate the more public areas of the internet including writing play store and other reviews.

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk 2
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    02-09-2014 03:52 PM
  14. PiggyMiddle's Avatar
    I think that's a violation of the customer agreement. G+ is real-names only.
    Ummm, it's Google! It is not NSA or FBI etc, it is not against any Law to use any name you choose -- yet! Well, not yet until these "people who care for us," make it so!

    You do understand why G= et al, want your real name and phone numbers etc? It is nothing to do with second-level account security or harsh comment in forums, it is about data gathering. Of course they would like you you use your real name. And as I have mentioned, the exact reason I would never sign up for that stuff. There is already way too much personal information available as Public Record without leaning into the data miners' punch and giving them more -- for free.
    02-09-2014 04:41 PM
  15. Puzzlegal's Avatar
    I have more than one gmail account and I can write reviews with either one... One is my real name and the 2nd is a pseudonym I created specifically for being able to navigate the more public areas of the internet including writing play store and other reviews.

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk 2
    I have a second gmail account. How can I do that with it? Tia.
    02-09-2014 07:25 PM
  16. mrsmumbles's Avatar
    I have a second gmail account. How can I do that with it? Tia.
    I'm trying to remember, they don't make it simple. It has to be associated with your phone, so you add it into your phone after you create it on Google for a new gmail account. Log into it in the play store app and download your apps with it if you want to review them. Any app you paid for, if you redownload it with the alternate email, you'll have to pay for it again of course. But once you add it to your phone (in Accounts Settings) you can use it to write reviews, etc. I might be forgetting steps, or adding unnecessary steps. I did this in the fall so it's hard to remember. :-/ But it can definitely be done. :-)

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk 2
    02-10-2014 01:33 AM
  17. davidnc's Avatar
    I dont use my correct legal name so to speak on G+/gmail account, but it is my name.
    Also for my last name its just the "first letter" in my last name not my last name spelled out. I dont have multible accounts
    02-10-2014 06:36 AM
  18. PiggyMiddle's Avatar
    I have a second gmail account. How can I do that with it? Tia.
    It is too late for that account. You need to create another new one but first get a new Yahoo or Bing account as the "Recovery" account that G will ask for during the set up. Do NOT have anything on one group (Google, Yahoo, Bing) linking directly to another account within that same G/Y/B, service. Make sure you are logged out of all things connected to G, Play Store, Motorola etc and restart your browser. Clear browser cache and History. OK, that's a bit extreme, but it's what I would do.

    Do not use your real cell phone number if asked during the sign up. I always leave that blank.

    Once the account is set up, on the phone got to
    Settings
    Accounts
    +Add Account

    Add in the new G-account, then long-tap the existing account and drop down the menu (top-right) and tap "Remove" now the new account becomes the only one for the phone.

    Finally, if you use wifi at home to connect to the Internet, then at night when you go to bed turn off the router. That means when you turn it on in the morning there is a very good chance your ISP will assign you a new IP address from their IP-pool. You will have a rolling range of IP addresses that will make it less obvious to an online store etc that it is you - again. That will/should work for your cell assigned IP address too by shutting the phone off at night, not just sleep it, but turn it off. They to should/will assign the IP from their pool.

    Just think it all through, it is not hard. I have never given up my cell phone number to anyone online, nor should you. Gordon Gekko might also have said, "Devious is good!"
    02-10-2014 11:26 AM
  19. mrsmumbles's Avatar
    I used an account that already existed. My goal wasn't to completely disguise myself but just to use an account that didn't have my name on it for the sake of writing reviews.

    If you remove an account from your phone you'll lose all the contacts and data associated with it until you add it back in when hopefully that will all re-sync.

    Sent from my LG-LG870 using Tapatalk 2
    02-10-2014 02:20 PM
  20. tmann202's Avatar
    It is too late for that account. You need to create another new one but first get a new Yahoo or Bing account as the "Recovery" account that G will ask for during the set up. Do NOT have anything on one group (Google, Yahoo, Bing) linking directly to another account within that same G/Y/B, service. Make sure you are logged out of all things connected to G, Play Store, Motorola etc and restart your browser. Clear browser cache and History. OK, that's a bit extreme, but it's what I would do.

    Do not use your real cell phone number if asked during the sign up. I always leave that blank.

    Once the account is set up, on the phone got to
    Settings
    Accounts
    +Add Account

    Add in the new G-account, then long-tap the existing account and drop down the menu (top-right) and tap "Remove" now the new account becomes the only one for the phone.

    Finally, if you use wifi at home to connect to the Internet, then at night when you go to bed turn off the router. That means when you turn it on in the morning there is a very good chance your ISP will assign you a new IP address from their IP-pool. You will have a rolling range of IP addresses that will make it less obvious to an online store etc that it is you - again. That will/should work for your cell assigned IP address too by shutting the phone off at night, not just sleep it, but turn it off. They to should/will assign the IP from their pool.

    Just think it all through, it is not hard. I have never given up my cell phone number to anyone online, nor should you. Gordon Gekko might also have said, "Devious is good!"
    Just out of curiosity, what are you worried will happen if you don't do any of this?
    02-10-2014 02:29 PM
  21. Puzzlegal's Avatar
    I used an account that already existed. My goal wasn't to completely disguise myself but just to use an account that didn't have my name on it for the sake of writing reviews.

    If you remove an account from your phone you'll lose all the contacts and data associated with it until you add it back in when hopefully that will all re-sync.

    Sent from my LG-LG870 using Tapatalk 2
    Yes, this would be good enough for me. I knew when I bought an Android phone that I had sold my soul to Google, and I am not trying to prevent Google from figuring out what I am doing with it. I would like to make it a little challenging for any random hacker to connect everything I've ever done on the web, however. If my name were Susan Anderson, or Katie Smith, I wouldn't have any concerns along these lines. But my name happens to be pretty easy for anyone to google.

    A lot of my software is paid, however, so it would be expensive to start over. Maybe I'll do this going forward, though.
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    02-10-2014 07:01 PM
  22. Cozume's Avatar
    I think that's a violation of the customer agreement. G+ is real-names only..
    No it's not and who the eff cares if you violate it anyhow? What is google going to do to you?
    02-10-2014 11:32 PM
  23. Puzzlegal's Avatar
    No it's not and who the eff cares if you violate it anyhow? What is google going to do to you?
    Google has revoked some g+ accounts because it didn't believe the user was listing his real name. I have a friend who ultimately won the right to use his nickname, and he has a friend who didn't.

    But I think the idea of a gmail address (which doesn't have to be a real name) that isn't linked to g+ is a good one.
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    02-11-2014 06:56 AM
  24. Johnly's Avatar
    Google has revoked some g+ accounts because it didn't believe the user was listing his real name. I have a friend who ultimately won the right to use his nickname, and he has a friend who didn't.

    But I think the idea of a gmail address (which doesn't have to be a real name) that isn't linked to g+ is a good one.
    Yep.

    Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk
    02-11-2014 08:23 AM
  25. Johnly's Avatar
    who the eff cares if you violate it
    Some of the worst advice I have seen.

    Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk
    02-11-2014 08:46 AM
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