05-10-2014 10:39 AM
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  1. Eli_C's Avatar
    I was wondering how well a 5" screen would fit in nearly the same form factor as the current Moto X:

    4.7" screen
    104.0 x 58.5mm

    5" screen
    110.7 x 62.3mm


    Moto X
    129.3 x 65.3mm
    12.65mm avg top and bottom bezel (G2 is 11.7mm)
    3.4mm side bezels (G2 is 3mm)


    This means you could do a 5" screen on a phone that is:
    130.7mm x 66.3mm
    or about 1.4mm taller and 1mm wider then the current Moto X IF the top and bottom bezel are 10mm and side bezels are 2mm.
    A true edge to edge phone could actually be 3mm THINNER (less wide) then the current Moto X
    04-05-2014 04:18 PM
  2. zedorda's Avatar
    I would rather a smaller phone than a larger screen. I have tablets, laptops, and PCs for large screens. I think my next device after my Moto X is going to be a standalone smart watch.
    04-05-2014 07:03 PM
  3. Eli_C's Avatar
    No need for the phone to be any smaller, just need to avoid it getting to big as many of the current top tier phones.
    04-05-2014 08:11 PM
  4. bricky23's Avatar
    I went back and forth 3 times with the moto x. Each time that I left, it was because the screen was just to small. 5 would be perfect as long as the phone doesn't get much bigger

    Sent from my LG-D800 using Tapatalk
    04-05-2014 08:39 PM
  5. CellGuy's Avatar
    I went back and forth 3 times with the moto x. Each time that I left, it was because the screen was just to small. 5 would be perfect as long as the phone doesn't get much bigger

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    Yep me to. Bought and sold a few myself. Really do love phone, just that 4.7 screen starts to bother me after a while. 5 would be perfect.

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    04-06-2014 08:02 AM
  6. Orion78's Avatar
    I think 5 would be the perfect screen size for the next moto x. But there will be people that want it to stay at 4.7. I'm more interested for that rumored phablet coming out this summer.
    04-06-2014 11:11 AM
  7. TechTinker's Avatar
    I honestly wish for it to stay in the 4.7" range. I think the the 4"-4.7" range is perfect for phones, 5+ is a phablet. And their coming out with one. sooo.
    Channan and ErnstMach like this.
    04-06-2014 05:56 PM
  8. Eli_C's Avatar
    I honestly wish for it to stay in the 4.7" range. I think the the 4"-4.7" range is perfect for phones, 5+ is a phablet. And their coming out with one. sooo.
    Overall footprint of the phone, NOT screen size determines if the phone is a phablet, IMO. So if the X2 is, 2mm taller, and 1mm wider, I think its still WAY far away from being a phablet.

    I would gladly have the phone be 1mm thicker if it meant getting a MAXX battery.
    04-06-2014 06:48 PM
  9. russel5150's Avatar
    The 5 inch screen and size of the droid maxx was perfect to me.. I carried it for about 7 months and for the size of the screen and battery it was really a good size.

    If the moto x2 is closer to the droid maxx in size it would be the best of both worlds.. size wise anyway

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    04-07-2014 09:13 AM
  10. Eli_C's Avatar
    Droid Maxx:

    137.5 x 71.2 x 8.5 mm

    IMO, the Droid Maxx is just a little to long and wide. But as demonstrated above, from a physical perspective you can get a 5" screen on the current Moto X footprint, engineering and technology may not be there though...
    04-07-2014 11:57 AM
  11. Ry's Avatar
    I don't want, nor need a 5" screen. The physical size of the Moto X is one reason I chose it. If the follow up is significantly larger, I may have to look elsewhere.
    UJ95x, A895, DCSholtis and 2 others like this.
    04-07-2014 12:01 PM
  12. zedorda's Avatar
    For me there is a clear division of usage between a phone and a tablet both I carry every where. Anything I would even want a 5" device for I use my 8.3" tablet. I only use my phone to communicate and that never requires a large screen if any at all. My goal is total hands-free communication device and a tablet. Might be Google Glass + tablet but till then my next step is a stand-alone Smart watch with a tablet.

    I understand that isn't the solution for everyone but for me it provides a better experience than compromising and doing everything with one device that has to be a halfway point between large viewable screen and pocket-ability.
    04-07-2014 12:28 PM
  13. Eli_C's Avatar
    Most of use don't carry a tablet with them everywhere. If I did, a 4" screen would be more then enough.

    The physical size of the Moto X is one reason I chose it. If the follow up is significantly larger, I may have to look elsewhere.
    I agree that the physical size is great. That's the whole point of the thread.

    Is 1.7mm of height and 1mm width "significant"? I don't think so, but that's up to each person to decide.

    Moving from a 4.7" to 5" screen adds 13.3% more screen. If using the dimensions in the OP, that's 1.1% taller and 1.5% wider (or 4.6% narrower if a true edge to edge phone). IMO, thats not a significant change in overall size. In fact, if you can do edge to edge, that's a 10% DECREASE in overall physical size (footprint)!
    04-07-2014 01:39 PM
  14. zedorda's Avatar
    I believe the increase in cost would be very significant for an insignificant improvement.
    04-07-2014 03:26 PM
  15. Eli_C's Avatar
    I believe the increase in cost would be very significant for an insignificant improvement.
    That's a completely baseless comment. How much of an increase in price? Based on what? Nexus 5 launched for $350 OFF contract with a 5" (LCD vs OLED) screen AND SD800. Moto X2 could launch WITH a SD805 & 5" screen AND smaller footprint for a launch price LESS then the original Moto X.
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    04-07-2014 04:01 PM
  16. zedorda's Avatar
    So your trying to make your point with the Nexus 5 which Google admitted is selling below cost with Motorola's Moto X which it desperately needs to make profit on? Now I completely understand.
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    04-07-2014 05:21 PM
  17. Green_Laser's Avatar
    I'd honestly prefer X2 at 5"
    but if it comes in at 4.7" still not bad (for me)
    I'm still on a htc thunderbolt, i believe 4.3"
    04-07-2014 05:27 PM
  18. Ry's Avatar
    I agree that the physical size is great. That's the whole point of the thread.

    Is 1.7mm of height and 1mm width "significant"? I don't think so, but that's up to each person to decide.

    Moving from a 4.7" to 5" screen adds 13.3% more screen. If using the dimensions in the OP, that's 1.1% taller and 1.5% wider (or 4.6% narrower if a true edge to edge phone). IMO, thats not a significant change in overall size. In fact, if you can do edge to edge, that's a 10% DECREASE in overall physical size (footprint)!
    Visual Phone Size Comparison

    Even if the DROID MAXX had on-screen buttons, it would likely be wider than what I would want it to be. I didn't have to "get used" to the Moto X. It felt damn-near perfect for me.

    And I think going to 5" brings in more 1080 vs. 720 (440 PPI vs. 290 PPI) debate. Realistically, PPI should be fine around 300 but then you'll have another Motorola phone that isn't playing the spec-war if you keep it 720.
    04-07-2014 05:52 PM
  19. Eli_C's Avatar
    Visual Phone Size Comparison

    Even if the DROID MAXX had on-screen buttons, it would likely be wider than what I would want it to be. I didn't have to "get used" to the Moto X. It felt damn-near perfect for me.

    And I think going to 5" brings in more 1080 vs. 720 (440 PPI vs. 290 PPI) debate. Realistically, PPI should be fine around 300 but then you'll have another Motorola phone that isn't playing the spec-war if you keep it 720.
    I completely agree with you on size. The Droid MAXX is to big. I have been discussing a phone significantly smaller then the MAXX, and nearly identical to the Moto X.

    Yes, if you are at a 5" screen you may need to go to 1080. I understand thats an extra hit on the battery and GPU, but overall the move to 1080 may be good as thats where all the other flagship phones are at. If they move to an 800 or 805 then there is plenty of power and the newer chips should be more efficient power wise then a chip from 2+ generations ago and the integrated low power cores for audio and sensors in the 800 and 805 way reduce the cost of the 2 additional chips.
    04-07-2014 08:36 PM
  20. Ry's Avatar
    I completely agree with you on size. The Droid MAXX is to big. I have been discussing a phone significantly smaller then the MAXX, and nearly identical to the Moto X.

    Yes, if you are at a 5" screen you may need to go to 1080. I understand thats an extra hit on the battery and GPU, but overall the move to 1080 may be good as thats where all the other flagship phones are at. If they move to an 800 or 805 then there is plenty of power and the newer chips should be more efficient power wise then a chip from 2+ generations ago and the integrated low power cores for audio and sensors in the 800 and 805 way reduce the cost of the 2 additional chips.
    ...which is why I said MAXX with on-screen buttons - which could be smaller than the actual MAXX. At 5" diagonal, even with more edge-to-edge, it's still wider than what I would like.

    And the 805 with the Adreno 420 would probably get better battery life on a 720 screen than a 1080 screen. At around 300 PPI, I'd take a 720 5" display over a 1080 5" display every time.

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    04-07-2014 09:15 PM
  21. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    I think the current size with the current bezel is the sweet spot.
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    04-07-2014 10:25 PM
  22. Ry's Avatar
    I think the current size with the current bezel is the sweet spot.
    I agree. But there's a "bigger is better" mentality that all the other OEM's are using. I hope Motorola doesn't give in - or if they do, they give us a proper "mini" (Z1/Z1 Compact, DROID ULTRA/DROID MINI).

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    04-08-2014 12:15 AM
  23. fernandez21's Avatar
    I think the size of the phone is more important than trying to get a 5" on there. If they can keep the phone the same size and only get a 4.8 or 4.9 than that's fine.
    04-08-2014 06:26 AM
  24. A895's Avatar
    I rather the screen size and bezel stay the same and go from there. But I honestly cab say for a 5 inch phone the Lumia Icon is not bad as far as height and width. The M8 is a little too tall, but has thinner width which makes using one hand kind of possible. I just hope they don't increase width or height that's my main concern as the Moto X is perfect in that regard.

    Posted via Android Central App
    04-08-2014 02:55 PM
  25. cferthorney's Avatar
    In terms of height on a phone, I think the N5 is about as tall as my hands can take. I don't want to have to "2 hand" the device or perform Olympic class finger acrobatics to reach the top of the phone. In terms of size, I think the S3 was the sweet spot for my personal use, and the Moto X is only a few mm taller off memory. I do tend to have a tablet or laptop with me though and so am less dependant on a larger screen. I will seriously consider the X2/X+1 unless it's over 5" screen size, and if they go over 5" I hope they offer a "mini" or "Compact" to compensate those of us with smaller hands.
    04-09-2014 07:57 AM
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