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  1. Ry's Avatar
    09-05-2014 01:16 AM
  2. Ry's Avatar
    09-05-2014 02:08 AM
  3. someguy01234's Avatar
    I can't make any conclusion without low light photos. Pretty much all flagship phones take good daylight pictures now.
    Citizen Coyote and Scott7217 like this.
    09-05-2014 02:15 AM
  4. Scott7217's Avatar
    I can't make any conclusion without low light photos. Pretty much all flagship phones take good daylight pictures now.
    That's true. I would also add that action shots of children or pets moving around are also sometimes difficult to take with smartphone cameras. I'd like to see a camera with good shutter speed.
    09-05-2014 03:12 AM
  5. Eli_C's Avatar
    No OIS :-(

    Do we have any info on the pixel size or sensor size in the camera?
    09-05-2014 06:51 AM
  6. mookiekillsit's Avatar
    I like that gallery and the movie option.
    09-05-2014 08:16 AM
  7. Ry's Avatar
    No OIS :-(

    Do we have any info on the pixel size or sensor size in the camera?
    Camera
    Rear camera: 13MP F2.25
    Front Camera: 2MP (1080p)
    09-05-2014 12:40 PM
  8. Eli_C's Avatar
    Camera
    Rear camera: 13MP F2.25
    Front Camera: 2MP (1080p)
    That is worthless. Sensor could be the same size (or smaller) then the 2013 Moto X with smaller pixels. The MP count tells you very little. Bigger Sensor and/or bigger pixels = better camera (typically)
    09-05-2014 02:08 PM
  9. Ry's Avatar
    That is worthless. Sensor could be the same size (or smaller) then the 2013 Moto X with smaller pixels. The MP count tells you very little. Bigger Sensor and/or bigger pixels = better camera (typically)
    ..just listing what's out there.
    09-05-2014 02:34 PM
  10. Ry's Avatar
    http://phandroid.com/2014/09/05/moto...-video-photos/

    So, after taking the phone out for a quick spin around downtown Chicago, we have to say we were quite impressed the results. Not because it’s the best smartphone shooter we’ve ever used — far from it. But simply because it’s leaps and bounds better than the original Moto X and really, that’s all we were asking. With every camera carrying it’s own unique photo “signature,” you’ll have to decide whether or not the Moto X is adequate enough for your tastes
    Green_Laser likes this.
    09-05-2014 05:01 PM
  11. Ry's Avatar
    AnandTech | Motorola Announces the New Moto X: Initial Impressions and Hands On

    For Motorola, this is camera represents a huge departure. While in the past they were almost exclusively an OmniVision customer, the OV10820 was likely a driving force in the move away from OmniVision for this generation. Instead, Motorola has moved to a Sony IMX135 13MP sensor, which is the same sensor that we've seen in the Samsung Galaxy S4, LG G2, LG G3, and a whole host of other smartphones. The new ring flash is said to reduce the severe shadowing that usually comes with flash photos, and the camera also runs a continuous buffer of photos and will automatically detect photos that are blurry or out of focus and will save photos from before and after the photo was taken in order to suggest them as replacements for a photo if they're sharper and in focus. Motorola also showed off a highlight reel feature that automatically generates short videos if it detects a large number of photos and videos taken in a single area.
    09-05-2014 07:20 PM
  12. Clocks's Avatar
    That's encouraging.
    09-05-2014 09:49 PM
  13. Green_Laser's Avatar
    Yeah sounds good!

    Posted via Android Central App
    09-06-2014 10:51 AM
  14. livetoride4666's Avatar
    This was the only reason why I sold the og X and it's what I'm waiting for on the new one. This is very promising! Can't wait for the unlocked version to go on sale.

    Posted via Android Central App
    09-06-2014 10:58 AM
  15. radgatt's Avatar
    So no OmniVision??? That's great news. Now this is definitely going to be my new phone. Can't wait until its released!

    Posted via Android Central App
    09-06-2014 04:08 PM
  16. someguy01234's Avatar
    It is the Sony Exmor IMX135 sensor, which is used in the LG G3 and Galaxy Note 3.
    09-06-2014 08:47 PM
  17. Kaustav Chakravarthy's Avatar
    I read somewhere that the new Moto X uses a Sony IMX135 sensor - 1/3.06". No more Omnivision.

    "... It uses the 13-megapixel 1/3.06” Sony IMX135, one of the most popular sensors out there that is also used on devices like the LG G3, LG G2, and the Samsung Galaxy S4. It is noticeably smaller than the previously used OmniVision one, but has a higher resolution. Naturally, this translates into tinier, 1.1µ pixels, smaller than the 1.4µ on last year’s Moto X...."

    Source - a phonearena article
    09-07-2014 03:19 AM
  18. zero3187's Avatar
    I'm glad I read this thread. I was considering buying a Moto X anyways but this almost cements my decision.
    09-07-2014 11:09 AM
  19. Eli_C's Avatar
    Moto X 2014 Camera Sensor
    IMX135:
    4208 x 3120
    1.12 μm
    16.5 mm^2



    Moto X (2013)
    OmniVision OV10820
    4320 x 2432
    1.4 μm
    20.6 mm^2


    So the SENSOR in the 2014 Moto X is 25% SMALLER then the 2013 X! A smaller sensor is BAD. And more megapixels on a smaller sensor just means more noise. Boo Moto. They went with 100% marketing MP crap for the camera.
    09-07-2014 12:40 PM
  20. livetoride4666's Avatar
    Moto X 2014 Camera Sensor
    IMX135:
    4208 x 3120
    1.12 μm
    16.5 mm^2



    Moto X (2013)
    OmniVision OV10820
    4320 x 2432
    1.4 μm
    20.6 mm^2


    So the SENSOR in the 2014 Moto X is 25% SMALLER then the 2013 X! A smaller sensor is BAD. And more megapixels on a smaller sensor just means more noise. Boo Moto. They went with 100% marketing MP crap for the camera.
    I agree, but so far the camera reviews have been night and day better. The horrible camera in the original is why I sold the phone so I'm monitoring this very closely

    Posted via Android Central App
    09-07-2014 01:09 PM
  21. someguy01234's Avatar
    Moto X 2014 Camera Sensor
    IMX135:
    4208 x 3120
    1.12 μm
    16.5 mm^2



    Moto X (2013)
    OmniVision OV10820
    4320 x 2432
    1.4 μm
    20.6 mm^2


    So the SENSOR in the 2014 Moto X is 25% SMALLER then the 2013 X! A smaller sensor is BAD. And more megapixels on a smaller sensor just means more noise. Boo Moto. They went with 100% marketing MP crap for the camera.
    It is used in the LG G3, so if it is bad, then the G3 also take bad photos.

    Secondly, I have seen the camera interface of the new phone in videos, it will not take video at 4K DCI, like the G3 and Note 3, it will only take videos in 4K UHD.

    Also Ultrapixel is overrated.
    09-07-2014 01:55 PM
  22. Eli_C's Avatar
    It is used in the LG G3, so if it is bad, then the G3 also take bad photos.
    There is no doubt that implementations of the IMX135 so far have been better then the Moto X. But a camera is also more then the sensor alone. The Moto X however lacks additional quality features such as Optical Image Stabilization and advanced focus features, such as the laser focus.

    Also Ultrapixel is overrated.
    HTC's implementation of "ultrapixel" is overrated because they don't use enough pixels!
    8+MP of 2+μm would be a great sensor
    12+MP of 2+μm would be an AMAZING sensor

    If large pixels ("ultrapixels") are so over-rated, then why does every professional camera use pixels that dwarf the size of smartphone pixels?

    Decent read on sensor size:
    Camera sensor size: Why does it matter and exactly how big are they?
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    09-07-2014 02:52 PM
  23. someguy01234's Avatar
    I don't record videos much so OIS isn't that important to me. I think I am capable of holding the phone still for photos. As for laser focus, I'm okay with taping on the screen. Also it have that pre-shot buffer mode. My only concern is Motorola digital processing of low light photos.
    09-07-2014 07:48 PM
  24. Paul627g's Avatar
    So far those first pics from Andrew and Phil look good. It will be interesting to see low light/indoor quality.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    09-08-2014 11:09 AM
  25. Green_Laser's Avatar
    speaking of the camera, allow me to ask this (which I also asked last year on the 2013 moto x)...

    on a moto x, if I download google camera app (or any other 3rd party camera app), when I flick my wrist to load camera, will it let me set a default as to which camera app I want to use, or will it automatically load the default camera?

    reason for me asking is that I know on previous x, camera ALWAYS takes photos at 10MP and video at 720HD.

    I don't want to take a 13 mp picture for every picture. What I mean is, not every picture taken is needed to be in such a high mp, which results in taking up so much room on phone (~2-3mb/photo). Would be great if there were options so such as 5mp, 10mp, and 13 mp.
    e.g. texting picture to wife from supermarket "is this the spice you needed?" <<-- that pic doesn't need to be in 13mp

    Same goes for video.

    I applaud moto for giving us the ability to customize so much, including speaker grills this time around, and hope they'll allow us to customize how we take a photo/video.

    (for the record, I do not own the previous moto x. Got one for my dad few months back, though haven't tried installing a 3rd party app to see what happens when flick wrist)
    09-08-2014 04:59 PM
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