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    Does anyone have any solid info on the off contract price ? I need to make a decision today either wait for this if its priced like the n4 or get the htc one for Tmo for 400 . I'm phone less at the moment and it is killing me
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    Quote Originally Posted by miicho85 View Post
    Does anyone have any solid info on the off contract price ? I need to make a decision today either wait for this if its priced like the n4 or get the htc one for Tmo for 400 . I'm phone less at the moment and it is killing me
    Alas, no my man, it will be just under $600. Although motorola was bought by google, it is google owning a regular phone company and that phone companies job is to make a profit just like every phone company out there. Best Buy already has their no-contract price up, but they usually put their off contract price at least $100 more than carriers do, so their $699 price means carriers will have it for $599ish.

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    If they sell it at 600 dollars they will miss a great opportunity to gain market share IMO I've been phone less for a week and I'm desperate I might pull the trigger on the htc one then converted to google edition I hate sense
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    Quote Originally Posted by miicho85 View Post
    If they sell it at 600 dollars they will miss a great opportunity to gain market share IMO I've been phone less for a week and I'm desperate I might pull the trigger on the htc one then converted to google edition I hate sense
    Ah, here's one more article: AT&T confirms $575/625 16GB/32.


    That being said, T-mo will have their own thing going on and no one knows the price of that one yet, but you can expect it will be similar in price as other carriers.
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    In our systems, it's priced at $549/$599. Obviously these things aren't always right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe the Insider View Post
    In our systems, it's priced at $549/$599. Obviously these things aren't always right.

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    That wouldn't surprise me. what carrier? thanks.

    and uh, any educated guesses at a release date.


    oh, bimbo moment, AT&T obviously. lol
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    It's kind of weird to me that they didn't announce the off contract price on their presentation
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    Quote Originally Posted by paisley99 View Post

    That wouldn't surprise me. what carrier? thanks.

    and uh, any educated guesses at a release date.


    oh, bimbo moment, AT&T obviously. lol
    Verizon.

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    Verizon.

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    You guys are getting the 32 as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by paisley99 View Post
    You guys are getting the 32 as well?
    According to our systems, it seems that way. Once again, nothing is set in stone.

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    I started thinking today about the price... something a lot of folks think should be a touch lower "given the specs" (he says, with a slight roll of the eyes). I start to wonder if there isn't a tactical reason to overprice the phone slightly. Stay with me...

    They obviously wouldn't/couldn't go a Nexus route of $300 off contract, that wasn't the goal of this phone. The phone performs on par with other flagship phones. Which is the better marketing push?

    1) Position it as a top of the line equivalent that's $50 cheaper than the alternatives, or 2) simply position it as a top of the line device.

    I don't know that 1 makes the best selling point, especially since it can be nullified somewhat easily. I'm also reminded of the many marketing stories where a higher price increases the perception of something's worth. If they've made a phone that goes toe-to-toe with other flagships, could presenting it as a "cheaper alternative" undermine that very perception? Will some folks balk, not knowing the details, at not buying "the best"? Price something too cheap, and folks with believe (rightly or wrongly) that it is not good quality. Since Motorola already has a potentially confusing situation explaining how and why they get the performance they do, it might be smarter not to muddy those waters.

    Not quite as relevant, but I also love the story about when Wendy's tried removing the triple hamburger from their menu. Apparently it wasn't a great seller and they didn't mind nixing it. It had an unintended consequence though: folks bought significantly fewer double hamburgers. People tend to make choices based on where an item is on the spectrum of available choices, as much as on the merits of the item itself. Wendy's put the triple back on the menu.

    Selfishly, I'd love for the phone to be cheaper. Realistically, I don't mind that it isn't.
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    Agreed.

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    $100 on-contract when the other "flagship" sell for $200 on-contract makes the $100 on-contact phone seem cheap and slow. The Moto X is probably neither.
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    $100 on-contract when the other "flagship" sell for $200 on-contract makes the $100 on-contact phone seem cheap and slow. The Moto X is probably neither.
    In not sure I buy that argument. The big reason that it's priced at $200 is that in all likelihood the market will pay that in a carrier subsidized market and it's easy to adjust downward if not.

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    In not sure I buy that argument. The big reason that it's priced at $200 is that in all likelihood the market will pay that in a carrier subsidized market and it's easy to adjust downward if not.

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    Actually I agree with the original poster. Pricing the Moto X at $100 would send a message at odds with where Motorola wants to position this phone in the market place. They are using price to help frame where the X sits in the market place. That is Marketing 101.
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    Actually I agree with the original poster. Pricing the Moto X at $100 would send a message at odds with where Motorola wants to position this phone in the market place. They are using price to help frame where the X sits in the market place. That is Marketing 101.
    It would also make it the price of phones that don't match it. Droid mini, htc mini, sammy mini, those will be $99, and the moto is not in their league. but i agree, if it were $149, i would be curious as to why so low. $179 i wouldn't be so suspect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe the Insider View Post
    According to our systems, it seems that way. Once again, nothing is set in stone.

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    If VZW offers the 32GB option at launch that would solve my only gripe. Don't let me down Joe!
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    It would also make it the price of phones that don't match it. Droid mini, htc mini, sammy mini, those will be $99, and the moto is not in their league. but i agree, if it were $149, i would be curious as to why so low. $179 i wouldn't be so suspect.
    That is true enough, but it is likely the did a price sensitivity analysis. That is how many can they sell at various price points. Since we have become accustomed to paying $200 for a phone, I doubt they found that they would sell 15% more units at that price.

    The other fact is you can always reduce price, but if it becomes the 'hot' phone, they would find it hard to increase the price. The PR would be a nightmare. $200 is just a safe price. Folks that want it cheaper likely only need to wait a few months and they will have that opportunity.

    From reading these forums you would believe price is based off either the cost of goods sold (COGS) or a nefarious plot by the carriers. In fact, there is a robust science behind pricing anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miicho85 View Post
    Does anyone have any solid info on the off contract price ? I need to make a decision today either wait for this if its priced like the n4 or get the htc one for Tmo for 400 . I'm phone less at the moment and it is killing me
    If you have the opportunity to get the HTC one for 400 of contract I would jump on that.

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    When people buy off contract phones, pardon for not knowing this, but who do you use as a carrier? Boost and those types?
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    Quote Originally Posted by paisley99 View Post
    When people buy off contract phones, pardon for not knowing this, but who do you use as a carrier? Boost and those types?
    It could be any carrier, but you are buying at full retail not getting or using a carrier subsidy locking you into a new contract.
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    It could be any carrier, but you are buying at full retail not getting or using a carrier subsidy locking you into a new contract.
    So the regular big 4 carriers have lower prices for non-contract persons? or by any carrier you mean boost and virgin and..i forget who the other ones are, "pre-paid" is what i often see those referred to as.

    i know it has to be less, cuz otherwise people could just pay the $50-$200+ cancellation fee to break contract.

    edit: i just read on a board somewhere just now after asking, someone wrote: "Nexus 4 + T-Mobile $30/month unlimited data = winning." what type of plan are they referring to? (obviously the $30 would be crazy-low, so i don't know what he's on about, but generally some lower priced plans must be available somewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paisley99 View Post
    So the regular big 4 carriers have lower prices for non-contract persons? or by any carrier you mean boost and virgin and..i forget who the other ones are, "pre-paid" is what i often see those referred to as.

    i know it has to be less, cuz otherwise people could just pay the $50-$200 cancellation fee.

    edit: i just read on a board somewhere just now after asking, someone wrote: "Nexus 4 + T-Mobile $30/month unlimited data = winning." what type of plan are they referring to?
    Phones can be bought off contract and used with T-Mobile, AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint. If you want to do this you must pay the full retail price and you will not be locked into a monthly contract.

    The only benefit this gives you for anyone other than T-Mobile is the option to cancel service without paying the cancellation fee.

    T-Mobile is the only American carrier that gives a monthly service cost at a discount when you bring your own phone. For AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint they will charge you the full monthly cost whether or not they have to subsidize your phone purchase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roadkizzle View Post
    Phones can be bought off contract and used with T-Mobile, AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint. If you want to do this you must pay the full retail price and you will not be locked into a monthly contract.

    The only benefit this gives you for anyone other than T-Mobile is the option to cancel service without paying the cancellation fee.

    T-Mobile is the only American carrier that gives a monthly service cost at a discount when you bring your own phone. For AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint they will charge you the full monthly cost whether or not they have to subsidize your phone purchase.
    okay. so..let's say sprint is, i dunno, $80 i think their plan is. So if you are on contract the contract break fee can be $250 when you first sign up, then the fee is lowered after i think, 6 months, by whatever it is, let's say month 7 it's $175. If ppl are still paying the $80 and break that contract month 7, their phone subsidy was $375 on say an S4, $375>$175, so what am i missing. Even at month 1, $375>$250.
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    Early Termination Fee is 350.

    But it really just needs to be a large enough of a disincentive for customers to switch services.
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