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    Default How is everyone doing without root?

    So, here's the deal, I'm currently running a GNex on Verizon and I'm debating over keeping what I have or picking up either a Droid Maxx or the Moto X (once Moto Maker is available on VZW). I'm not one to assume anything so I don't expect to see a bootloader unlock and/or root access for either device (I'm also not keen on spending the probably $650 for a Developer Edition). I have a bunch of apps I use regularly that require root which are:

    WiFi Tether <--- Disclaimer, I can swap my "older" 10GB plan to a "new" plan and get tethering for free. This is mainly principle to me.
    AdAway
    Cerberus
    Greenify
    Light Flow
    Rom Manager
    Titanium Backup
    Root Explorer
    BootUnlocker

    Now, the bottom 5 are largely irrelevant on the new Motorola offerings considering there's no notification light and no root. That said, I'm a little bugged to not be able to back up on the dumb things I don't really need to back up anyway I don't suppose. I'm also annoyed to not be able to use Cerberus for security. I keep it under root and hidden from the app drawer. I also assume that if I ever lost the phone or had it stolen, the chances of anyone being knowledgeable enough to flash a new rom are few and far between.

    So for all the other people out there that are geeky like me and are used to flashing roms and tinkering with things, are you ok with the MotoX if root/bootloader unlock never come? Do you miss Cyanogen Mod/Whatever ROM you used? Granted, all the good features about this phone go away once you flash a ROM, so there's really no point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KWKSLVR View Post
    So for all the other people out there that are geeky like me and are used to flashing roms and tinkering with things, are you ok with the MotoX if root/bootloader unlock never come?
    Yes.
    Quote Originally Posted by KWKSLVR View Post
    Do you miss Cyanogen Mod/Whatever ROM you used?
    No.
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    Default Re: How is everyone doing without root?

    There will be a point when you will wish Root was available if it never came. Considering the hype around the Moto X and seeing news that Sprint is offering bootloader unlock methods, I'm sure it'll be a matter of time before solutions start popping up for other models, including the Verizon model.
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    Coming from a Galaxy Nexus that was flashed to hell and back, I can definitely say I'm fine without root. I like AdAway, but I'll live without it.

    I don't miss ROMs right now. Towards the end with my Galaxy Nexus, it seemed like I was just chasing an imaginary, better experience that couldn't actually be had.

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    Default Re: How is everyone doing without root?

    i use all those apps except
    Cerberus- I use Google's Android device manager
    and BootUnlocker

    I can live without any of those apps except Greenify. Greenify is a life saver.

    with the popularity of Moto X it wont be long since we get a root method
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    No doubt, Root/Unlocked BL may come but I like to base purchases on what I know and what's available now. I'm beyond buying a device with X version of Android and then ******** because it has that version of Android and not the next incarnation the second it drops. I currently run CM10 on my GNex. I'm not butthurt because I'm not on a laggy CM10.1 experience or an abysmal 10.2.

    I'm now further annoyed by Verizon. I currently pay $50/month for 10GB's. Verizon wants $100/month for 12GB's including tethering. I'm not sure what kind of crack they're smoking, but that's utterly ridiculous. I may hang onto my GNex for a while longer by necessity (I tether for work and use around 8GB's/month normally).
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    Quote Originally Posted by still1 View Post
    i use all those apps except
    Cerberus- I use Google's Android device manager
    There's no comparison between the two. It's like claiming you don't need a kitchen knife because you already have a spoon.
    Quote Originally Posted by still1 View Post
    with the popularity of Moto X it wont be long since we get a root method
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    Quote Originally Posted by JungleLarry View Post
    There's no comparison between the two. It's like claiming you don't need a kitchen knife because you already have a spoon.
    +1

    No security/remote wipe app is perfect. But what good does Android DM do after someone logs you out of your Google Account or wipes data? (That's a rhetorical question)
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    looks like Sprint joined the boot loader unlock program. so its just ATT and Verizon

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    I'm dying without it. I cannot stand the AT&T logo. I need Xposed BAD.
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    I came from a Verizon Galaxy Nexus 32 GB that I rommed and modded the heck out of.

    I'm on my second day with the Droid Maxx and so far I love it. it feels incredible and well built. I love the look of the Kevlar back, etc. so far I am not missing root access yet. I did install Nova Launcher Prime so I could get my gesture controls back and so far am only slightly annoyed that the Moto command center circle widget will not work on Nova. other than that I keep amazing myself every time I say "OK Google Now" lol

    The one thing that WOULD make me want to root this is if developers are able to add more voice commands like setting toggles and asking to read anything outloud.
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    The 4.3 update changed a lot of things! You actually don't NEED root now. I know the Moto x doesn't ship with 4.3.. I'm just saying.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by KevLar72 View Post
    The 4.3 update changed a lot of things! You actually don't NEED root now. I know the Moto x doesn't ship with 4.3.. I'm just saying.....
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    Like Greenify.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JungleLarry View Post
    There's no comparison between the two. It's like claiming you don't need a kitchen knife because you already have a spoon.
    Say you swear.
    security software is personal preference. I know Cerberus is better but all i need is to eat my food with a spoon.

    and I swear
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    Quote Originally Posted by KWKSLVR View Post
    No doubt, Root/Unlocked BL may come
    Root, yes. Unlocked bootloader, extremely unlikely.
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    I do not get the point... you will give someone a new phone for 99 dollars if they drop it like an *****... But you wont give them a new phone if they unlock the bootloader and drop it...heres a hint; its the drop either way. Everyone would be better with the ability to root and flash because ultimately the extra CPU's on the X8 platform are probably 95% under utilized and could be the host for real creativity and testing by the multitudes if we could just get the same phone as the "developer edition" up front. All companies like Samsung, Motorola, HTC etc hire the dumbest people to create the UI's and ignore what the geniuses do for fun with AOSP... If your going to lock my bootloader then allow me to choose between official ROMs UI / Clean and just put root in the developer options. Stop forcing it in dry at a 45 degree angle while I am gagged and crying. Not fun
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    We will have root for the AT&T version in the coming days, possibly even tomorrow. A developer has already found a working exploit, he's just doing some testing. I am unsure if it will work on the VZW model or not.
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    I came from a GS3 running CM 10.1. I miss AdAway the most, but ads are how developers get paid, so that's a wash. Now that I'm not rooted I can actually watch streaming movies I own on Flixster, which will be handy.

    I don't really miss custom ROMs at all yet. Bluetooth is loads better so far than any ROM I ran previously. Moto is very close to stock and it's really fast. They must have done a ton of optimization, which really helps. Plus I now can't live without active notifications, which likely won't be on any custom ROM.

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    Interestingly, I was looking through my running apps and I see backup assistant plus and backup assistant contacts client running on my VZW Moto X. I disabled all Verizon apps but and don't see any in my app drawer but apparently something is still going under the hood. First thing that has made me want root so far, to freeze all these dumb vzw bloat apps that seem to persists through 'disable'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Gilbert View Post
    I do not get the point... you will give someone a new phone for 99 dollars if they drop it like an *****... But you wont give them a new phone if they unlock the bootloader and drop it...heres a hint; its the drop either way. Everyone would be better with the ability to root and flash because ultimately the extra CPU's on the X8 platform are probably 95% under utilized and could be the host for real creativity and testing by the multitudes if we could just get the same phone as the "developer edition" up front. All companies like Samsung, Motorola, HTC etc hire the dumbest people to create the UI's and ignore what the geniuses do for fun with AOSP... If your going to lock my bootloader then allow me to choose between official ROMs UI / Clean and just put root in the developer options. Stop forcing it in dry at a 45 degree angle while I am gagged and crying. Not fun
    Wrong, if you have insurance, everything (even self inflicted software damage) is covered, Thus the extra cost and dedcutible.

    If you don't then yes, they will not honor your manufacturer's warranty, becase the problem may not be a mmanufacturers defect. (Drops wouldn't be covered either, onr any other accidental damage)

    As for the drop being the issue, plenty of people would "drop" the phone to sidestep the rooted/rommed issue if they needed a new device.
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    I bought the phone cause I wouldn't have to. I don't miss CM one bit. Constant updating.. not near as stable as this release and the features here don't make me wanting for more. Root is cool just not that cool when this stock Rom is better than the cm versions I've used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eallan View Post
    Like?

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    Like TRIM support


    I wont buy a new device without 4.3 !
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    Quote Originally Posted by KevLar72 View Post
    Like TRIM support


    I wont buy a new device without 4.3 !
    Moto x already has a advanced and more optmized form of trim implemented already by motorola..thats one of the many reasons why moto x is buttery smooth without lag compared to other android phones out there. Check Anand Tech review for more details on that ..
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    Default Re: How is everyone doing without root?

    I've never owned a mobile device that didn't get hacked, even when the device wasn't that popular. I'm fine without root for now, but I do want it, the sooner the better. I'm coming from a CM ROM, and the things I miss most are multiple volume controls on the popup and quick reply to text messages. I also miss being able to pull the notification bar up from anywhere in the tray (not just the bottom), having a flashlight quick toggle, being able to press on the WiFi toggle to turn it off and hold to go to settings, and pressing on the notification tray's clock to go to the clock app or the date to go to the calendar. It's a bunch of small things, but they all improve Android.

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