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    Default "only 500,000 Moto Xs sold in third quarter"

    Motorola Plans Low-Cost Phone - Digits - WSJ

    According to research firm Strategy Analytics, roughly 500,000 Moto X phones were sold in the third quarter, after the phone was released in August. By comparison, Samsung said it sold more than 10 million Galaxy S4 phones within a month of its April release.
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    Default Re: "only 500,000 Moto Xs sold in third quarter"

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    Curious to see how well the 2013 DROID line is doing over at Verizon. It wouldn't surprise me if there were more DROIDs sold.
    Wow. Weren't they shipping like 100,000 a week a couple months ago? I agree that the Droid sells more, they're like higher-spec Moto Xs...
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    Default Re: "only 500,000 Moto Xs sold in third quarter"

    I'm sure the sales paled in comparison to Samsung, but I have to wonder if their number they used for Samsung April sales was worldwide or US only.
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    Default Re: "only 500,000 Moto Xs sold in third quarter"

    Quote Originally Posted by UJ95x View Post
    Wow. Weren't they shipping like 100,000 a week a couple months ago? I agree that the Droid sells more, they're like higher-spec Moto Xs...
    To be fair, third quarter is usually July/August/September. IIRC, none of the carriers sold the phone for two months in that third quarter.
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    Default Re: "only 500,000 Moto Xs sold in third quarter"

    I also wouldn't be surprised if the Droid line sold better than the X. If I were on Verizon, I'd get the Ultra or the Maxx over the Moto X. Bigger screen and the red woven Ultra looks better than any of the Moto X colors IMO.
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    Default Re: "only 500,000 Moto Xs sold in third quarter"

    Quote Originally Posted by Ry View Post
    To be fair, third quarter is usually July/August/September. IIRC, none of the carriers sold the phone for two months in that third quarter.
    Still only 500,000 in a month. Do you know how much they have sold in total?
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    Default Re: "only 500,000 Moto Xs sold in third quarter"

    Quote Originally Posted by jdevenberg View Post
    I also wouldn't be surprised if the Droid line sold better than the X. If I were on Verizon, I'd get the Ultra or the Maxx over the Moto X. Bigger screen and the red woven Ultra looks better than any of the Moto X colors IMO.
    Not to mention Verizon's DROID marketing is much more effective.
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    Default Re: "only 500,000 Moto Xs sold in third quarter"

    Pretty skewed statistics considering:

    - The phone was released in late August (Q3 ends in September)
    - It was only released in North America.
    - Motomaker was an AT&T exclusive until yesterday.
    - It wasn't marketed heavily until recently.

    We'll see what the year-end sales reports have to say.
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    Default Re: "only 500,000 Moto Xs sold in third quarter"

    Quote Originally Posted by JungleLarry View Post
    Pretty skewed statistics considering:

    - The phone was released in late August (Q3 ends in September)
    - It was only released in North America.
    - Motomaker was an AT&T exclusive until this yesterday.
    - It wasn't marketed heavily until recently.

    We'll see what the year-end sales reports have to say.
    Not to mention it had to compete with the iPhone launch during September.
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    Default Re: "only 500,000 Moto Xs sold in third quarter"

    Moto isn't like HTC, where they needed a massive sales hit to avoid going under. Google pays their bills now, and they seem to have carte blanche to go after Apple's model (focus on the "user experience" instead of specs). The Moto X was just their first attempt, and I predict it will only get better from here. I don't see myself buying any phones other than Moto or Nexus in the near future.
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    Default Re: "only 500,000 Moto Xs sold in third quarter"

    Quote Originally Posted by phew View Post
    Moto isn't like HTC, where they needed a massive sales hit to avoid going under. Google pays their bills now, and they seem to have carte blanche to go after Apple's model (focus on the "user experience" instead of specs). The Moto X was just their first attempt, and I predict it will only get better from here. I don't see myself buying any phones other than Moto or Nexus in the near future.
    The question remains though - how long will Google let Motorola continue to bleed money? Google can afford it but do they want to keep footing the bill? Motorola needs to return to profitability.
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    Default Re: "only 500,000 Moto Xs sold in third quarter"

    Quote Originally Posted by Ry View Post
    The question remains though - how long will Google let Motorola continue to bleed money? Google can afford it but do they want to keep footing the bill? Motorola needs to return to profitability.
    I think the Moto X was almost intentionally positioned to be a poor seller; high launch price, poor timing (right before new iPhone), AT&T exclusive Moto Maker, etc. If it was $50 on-contract and $400 off-contract to start, with moto maker for everyone from the start, and launched around June, it would have been the sales hit of the year.

    They may have wanted to roll out Moto Maker slowly, to get the logistics right. Watch, Moto's next flagship phone will be positioned to sell big from the start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry View Post
    The question remains though - how long will Google let Motorola continue to bleed money? Google can afford it but do they want to keep footing the bill? Motorola needs to return to profitability.
    I don't know that Motorola ever has to see a profit for Google to keep them around. Google is such a large company that research and work being done at Motorola can benefit Google's other branches. That doesn't translate into a direct Motorola profit, but gives Google a reason to keep them around.
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    Default Re: "only 500,000 Moto Xs sold in third quarter"

    Quote Originally Posted by jdevenberg View Post
    I don't know that Motorola ever has to see a profit for Google to keep them around. Google is such a large company that research and work being done at Motorola can benefit Google's other branches. That doesn't translate into a direct Motorola profit, but gives Google a reason to keep them around.
    But every other Android phone running Google's services benefits Google.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry View Post
    But every other Android phone running Google's services benefits Google.
    I'm not talking just from increased Android market share. I'm talking features Motorola developes making their way to the Android team, their set top box expertise going ot Android TV, Always Listening being used to improve Google's voice search, and things like that.
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    I asked the a guy in Sprint how it was selling, he said, "not great, people just go directly to the iPhone or samsung". For some reason it reminds me of when you see 2 lines in a store and one is extremely long and one is quite short. Lol. Derp.
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    Default Re: "only 500,000 Moto Xs sold in third quarter"

    Have to be careful when you compare the Moto X to the market leaders sales volumes. How it's assembled (in Ft Worth at the old Nokia plant and "on demand" for all MotoMaker units) doesn't really lend itself to coming out and selling millions of units in the first month(s) out of the gate. I would imagine that sales/shipments might not be what they hoped, but it's probably not that far off from what they engineered it to be when they made the decisions about where, how, and when to build the phones.

    If Apple and Samsung aren't stockpiling inventory for months leading up to a release of a new phone, they aren't selling multiple millions of units in the first quarter either.
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    Default Re: "only 500,000 Moto Xs sold in third quarter"

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    Curious to see how well the 2013 DROID line is doing over at Verizon. It wouldn't surprise me if there were more DROIDs sold.

    well, motorola only had droid lines as flagship device before Moto X and that was the money maker for motorola.
    so this 500k unit is added revenue for Motorola.

    - 500k sold in 40 days Q3 is not that bad.
    - people were waiting for a price drop which happened in October(Q4). I bought it on October when the price dropped.
    - many waiting for MotoMaker which happened this month. so there will be another sales boost
    - so Q4 the sale could be close to 2 million.
    - not to mention Moto G which is international version

    over all i think its good for Motorola. I think Motorola will turn profit Q4
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    Do you think that we have been seeing the $500 million marketing budget for this phone in action? I don't think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdevenberg View Post
    I'm not talking just from increased Android market share. I'm talking features Motorola developes making their way to the Android team, their set top box expertise going ot Android TV, Always Listening being used to improve Google's voice search, and things like that.

    I seem to recall Google sold off the Set top division
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    My opinion is that they were looking for quarter 4 sales. The previous months have been a soft launch to get all the kinks out of building/shipping/payment/etc and now they will spend the advertising money for holiday sales.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pollster View Post
    My opinion is that they were looking for quarter 4 sales. The previous months have been a soft launch to get all the kinks out of building/shipping/payment/etc and now they will spend the advertising money for holiday sales.
    No more exclusive on MotoMaker
    Initial bugs squashed
    Pricing appropriate
    Ready to roll.
    Apple may have changed the game somewhat, but the 4th quarter was 50% of carriers' business and a December was a bigger month than any other 3 months combined.
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    Moto is not loosing that much money actually its around 150-200 million, and that also with having only last year droid on sale at verizon ..with moto X, moto G and new droid line up ..im sure the gap will reduce and they will break even in couple of quarters .somebody mentioned that motorola loosing 100-150 million per quarter is chump change for google, it accounts to loosing few days of revenue for google ..From what Im seeing motorola is set up to take long term view and tasked to take risks to help push android and push the innovation race in mobile industry (the features in moto x are just the beginning) ..You will start seeing some ambitious projects from motorola in long run like project ara and many more in future ..for me motorola is the most interesting OEM ..they are the only one's who are positioned perfectly with google backing to take up ambitious projects think out of the box and bring innovation to market without worrying about failure and loosing market share/margin's ..


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    Default Re: "only 500,000 Moto Xs sold in third quarter"

    While I do NOT think this is an accurate representation of the future of moto and the moto x, it does give cause to pay more attention to future sales and to watch for future red flags.

    The one thing this does show is that the moto x is not a run away success. It may yet be a big hit, but it has sure not shaken the market like many thought it might.

    I too wonder how much money Google is willing to dump into moto before the line is drawn. The coming year will show if Google wants moto to be a market leading OEM, or a minor project meant to experiment and lightly push the market.
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