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    Default Droid MAXX: Google and Isis wallets working great!

    I know there is another thread about the wallets, but I wanted to just say that I tried them both last week and they work great. I love that I don't have to pull out the credit card. Just open either of the apps and I am done! I am also enjoying that $50 credit I received when I signed up for Isis.

    Oh ... and disregard my typo in the subject line.
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    Default Re: Google and Isis wallets working great!

    I have no taken advantage of this yet.

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    Getting Google Wallet on my Maxx was one of the main reasons I wanted the Kit Kat upgrade.

    I've used Google Wallet and ISIS a few different times at McDonald's and CVS and it worked perfectly. I tried using Google Wallet at Home Depot at one of their self-service checkouts and it looked like it was going to work but the transaction failed to process. The clerk walked over and advised me that their NFC payment system isn't active yet but it should be soon. (In fairness to Home Depot, the logo that designates NFC payment wasn't on their card reader - I just held my Maxx to the LCD screen on their card reader and the NFC logo materialized.)

    The only hang-up I've encountered was when I tried to return an item I bought at CVS using Google Wallet. When the clerk processed the return she asked for the credit card I used for payment so I handed her the card that's tied to my GW account - it didn't work. I then handed her the Google Wallet debit card I received in the mail - it didn't work either. I wanted to hold my Maxx to the NFC reader but the clerk insisted she needed a physical card that she could swipe through her terminal. I didn't want to waste anymore time so I just agreed to take a store gift card in the amount of the return.

    Overall I love Google Wallet and the NFC technology, I just wish there were more places (mostly gas stations and supermarkets) that accepted GW and ISIS.
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    Default Re: Google and Isis wallets working great!

    I was able to use my Google wallet at a Chevron station last week. I also hope more merchants start using the NFC system. It's great!
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    I used GW for the first time today at CVS and I was pleased that it worked. It's the only place in my small town that I know of so far that is NFC enabled.

    I also have all my loyalty cards scanned into Wallet so I don't carry the physical cards anymore. Found out today though that it's impossible to scan my phone at the Kroger gas pumps to get my discount. I turned that phone every which-a-way but it wouldn't scan....guess I'll have to put the Kroger loyalty card back in my wallet for the gas pump at least.
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    Default Re: Google and Isis wallets working great!

    One thing I've discovered is Isis only works at places it's listed at on its website.

    Google wallet will work wherever contact less payments are accepted.

    But I'm not complaining. I got $50 just for signing up. I'm also getting 20% back on purchases. And I can also easily move money from my checking account so shopping at target is a breeze (well I use the Amex serve there).

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    Home Depot in my area used to have one terminal with the PayPass module above the regular pinpad. When they got all new pinpads for every checkstand (including self-check out), I was concerned they'd abandoned tap-to-pay as an option.

    Yesterday, as I was about to swipe my CC, I noticed the PayPass logo among the payment types on the LCD screen. So I backed out of the transaction and tried again with my Moto X. It chirped and seemed to work, but the transaction eventually failed. The clerk said on her screen it said something like "Payment Type Not Accepted." Too bad.

    I was immediately reminded of the vending machines at the outlet mall near me that used to accept PayPass (via Google Wallet) but abruptly stopped working when ISIS was released publicly. Someone indicated it may be an exclusivity deal with the ISIS cabal.

    Has anyone tried Home Depot with ISIS to see if it works?

    TJH

    (I'll take a picture of the terminals next time I'm in the store.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJH132 View Post
    Yesterday, as I was about to swipe my CC, I noticed the PayPass logo among the payment types on the LCD screen. So I backed out of the transaction and tried again with my Moto X. It chirped and seemed to work, but the transaction eventually failed. The clerk said on her screen it said something like "Payment Type Not Accepted." Too bad.
    I had almost the exact same thing happen when I tried to use ISIS at Home Depot a few weeks ago. (See post #3)

    Today I went to Home Depot and paid for my purchase using my Maxx and Google Wallet. (The first time I held my Maxx to the card reader with the LCD screen the Maxx vibrated and it seemed to "wake up" the LCD screen and then I held the Maxx to the reader again and the Maxx vibrated and the transaction began to process.)

    So, my batting average with Home Depot and NFC payments is .500. ISIS didn't work but Google Wallet did. That said, I'm not 100% certain the issue is with ISIS, because I tried to use ISIS on a self-serve check-out but I used Google Wallet at a check-out that was staffed by a Home Depot employee. Part of me wonders if Home Depot disables the NFC payment capability from the self serve check-outs due to some security concerns?
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    Went to download Isis today and was shocked by the number of poor reviews it has on the Play store. I will have to check back into it and see what's up with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockitdog23 View Post
    Went to download Isis today and was shocked by the number of poor reviews it has on the Play store. I will have to check back into it and see what's up with it.
    I haven't read the reviews for ISIS but I'd bet there's a fair amount of "hate" directed toward the app by people who resented that many of the carriers were blocking Google Wallet so that ISIS could gain traction in the market. AT&T and Verizon both have a vested interest in ISIS and both have made efforts in the past to block Google Wallet.

    Google, to their credit, came up with a clever solution to circumvent AT&T and Verizon's efforts to block Google Wallet with the latest Kit Kat upgrade.

    Personally, I love Google and I hate Verizon. The only reason I have ISIS on my phone is that I'm interested in NFC payment technology and I wanted to see if there were circumstances where one NFC payment system might work when the other one wouldn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Westiemom View Post
    I also have all my loyalty cards scanned into Wallet so I don't carry the physical cards anymore. Found out today though that it's impossible to scan my phone at the Kroger gas pumps to get my discount. I turned that phone every which-a-way but it wouldn't scan....guess I'll have to put the Kroger loyalty card back in my wallet for the gas pump at least.
    It only works with certain hand held scanners. Newer ones as I understand it. The stationary scanners never work. I've been using the key ring app to store my cards for years and a few cashiers shared their experiences with customers using such apps. My experiences seem to match what they've told me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XDCX View Post
    So, my batting average with Home Depot and NFC payments is .500. ISIS didn't work but Google Wallet did. That said, I'm not 100% certain the issue is with ISIS, because I tried to use ISIS on a self-serve check-out but I used Google Wallet at a check-out that was staffed by a Home Depot employee. Part of me wonders if Home Depot disables the NFC payment capability from the self serve check-outs due to some security concerns?
    This is the new terminal at my Home Depot. Does it match the one that worked for you? I'll try at a non self-serve checkstand to see if your supposition is correct.

    TJH
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    Quote Originally Posted by TJH132 View Post
    This is the new terminal at my Home Depot. Does it match the one that worked for you? I'll try at a non self-serve checkstand to see if your supposition is correct.

    TJH
    Yep, the payment terminal at my local Home Depot looks exactly like the one in your photo.

    On a related note, I went to Home Depot today and tried to make a NFC purchase at the self-serve check out. First I tried ISIS and then I tried Google Wallet - both efforts failed.

    The Home Depot employee who came over to help indicated he's seen the NFC payments work at the terminals that are staffed by HD employees - he didn't know why the NFC payments were not working at the self-serve check out. (I gave up and just paid for the purchase with my Credit Card using the magnetic reader.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKwik240 View Post
    It only works with certain hand held scanners. Newer ones as I understand it. The stationary scanners never work. I've been using the key ring app to store my cards for years and a few cashiers shared their experiences with customers using such apps. My experiences seem to match what they've told me.

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    What is the key ring app?
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    That's good news. I've seen this identical terminal (sans the PayPass) logo at AutoZone and one other retailer I can't recall at the moment. Hopefully that means a small change in their software or service agreement could open the doors to more tap to pay locations. The Walgreen's in the area have new terminals with large, elaborately marked PayPass terminals that are not connected either.

    TJH

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    Default Most recent ISIS experience at Home Depot

    I went to a Home Depot in the Seattle area and tried to pay with ISIS at a check-out that was staffed by a Home Depot employee - the effort failed..... It looked like it was going to work and the ISIS screen on my phone made all the right tones but the transaction failed to process.

    So far my NFC experience at Home Depot is one success and three failures. Based on my limited experience it appears that neither Google Wallet or ISIS work at the self serve check-outs and only Google Wallet works at the check-outs staffed by a HD employee - your mileage may vary.....

    On a somewhat related note, I was able to use ISIS at a Rite Aid drug store but it required two efforts to get it to work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XDCX View Post
    So far my NFC experience at Home Depot is one success and three failures. Based on my limited experience it appears that neither Google Wallet or ISIS work at the self serve check-outs and only Google Wallet works at the check-outs staffed by a HD employee
    This seems to be accurate. Staffed check stands work with GW; self-checkout does not.

    TJH

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    I tried ISIS at Home Depot in Englewood Florida and got the old card type not valid on the tap and pay... I also tried to use it in Walgreen's in Port Charlotte, they have it (ISIS) turned off as well..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denny Curtis View Post
    I tried ISIS at Home Depot in Englewood Florida and got the old card type not valid on the tap and pay... I also tried to use it in Walgreen's in Port Charlotte, they have it (ISIS) turned off as well..
    I initially assumed that any merchant that had a NFC reader would be able to process both Google Wallet and ISIS - that's clearly not the case.

    In fact, I thought it was funny when I received an email from ISIS this morning bragging that I can now use ISIS at McDonald's. Hell, I was using Google Wallet at McDonald's with my Nexus 7 over a year ago.
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    Default Re: Droid MAXX: Google and Isis wallets working great!

    Isis works at the vending machines at the local courthouse, but Google Wallet doesn't. It was driving me nuts that Isis refused to load on my rooted Maxx.

    Fortunately, the Root Cloak module for Xposed Framework prevents Isis from detecting root, so Isis is working again.
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    I was curious to see how ISIS worked at McDonald's so I stopped there for lunch earlier today. As promised, ISIS is now working at McDonalds....

    I also made a trip to Home Depot and used Google Wallet at a check-out that was staffed by an HD employee and the transaction worked perfectly. The last time I was at HD I tried to use ISIS and the transaction failed. Based on my experience, Google Wallet works 100% of the time at HD if you're using a check-out that's staffed by an HD employee. Google Wallet doesn't work on the self check-out registers at HD and ISIS doesn't work on anything at HD.

    As an observation, the Google Wallet transactions seem faster and provide more reassurance that the system is working to process the payment. ISIS, by contrast, doesn't provide the same level of feedback and I'm often left wondering for a few seconds if the payment is going to process.

    On a somewhat related note, I checked into a hotel last week and was impressed to see that the room keys used NFC technology. I was too tired to see if I could copy the NFC file to my phone but I wouldn't be surprised if it was possible.

    On a totally unrelated note, while I was eating my lunch at McDonald's I saw a poster promoting their new "McD App" so I thought I'd check it out. I found the app on Google Play and downloaded it. The app was completely worthless in my opinion. All the app offered was a feature to find the nearest McDonald's (which was much slower than using Google Voice Search), a section with nutrient information and a career section. I removed the app after I read a few reviews on Google Play that confirmed my feeling that the app didn't offer much value.

    I thought it was surprising that a company as large as McDonald's would publish such a worthless app. I'm sure there app will improve over time but it's quite clear that McDonald's has a long ways to go.
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    Default Re: Droid MAXX: Google and Isis wallets working great!

    I just got the Motorola RAZR Maxx but I can't find the Isis App on Google Play. I tried downloading via the web, but it says the Motorola RAZR maxx is not compatible. I have an NFC sim. Any tips on how you were able to get ISIS mobile wallet on the Maxx? thanks in advance
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    Quote Originally Posted by wnconnect View Post
    I just got the Motorola RAZR Maxx but I can't find the Isis App on Google Play. I tried downloading via the web, but it says the Motorola RAZR maxx is not compatible. I have an NFC sim. Any tips on how you were able to get ISIS mobile wallet on the Maxx? thanks in advance
    You say you got the Razr Maxx? That is not the same as the newer Droid Maxx. Did you just inadvertently put Razr in the name ? If not, and that is really what you have, that would explain why Isis isn't compatible. The new Droid phones dropped the Razr moniker.
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    Default Re: Droid MAXX: Google and Isis wallets working great!

    When you go to the play store and look for the Isis Mobile Wallet, It warns that you need both a compatible phone (with NFC), AND a new NFC-compatible Enhanced SIM which supports a "secure element". I have the SIM that came with my phone, but I went ahead and installed the app on my Droid Maxx, and did all the setup, added and validated a credit card, and it seems perfectly happy. I haven't yet actually tried to do a purchase, but I would have thought that if there was an authentication problem due to the SIM, I would have seen it already. What am I missing here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlesH View Post
    When you go to the play store and look for the Isis Mobile Wallet, It warns that you need both a compatible phone (with NFC), AND a new NFC-compatible Enhanced SIM which supports a "secure element". I have the SIM that came with my phone, but I went ahead and installed the app on my Droid Maxx, and did all the setup, added and validated a credit card, and it seems perfectly happy. I haven't yet actually tried to do a purchase, but I would have thought that if there was an authentication problem due to the SIM, I would have seen it already. What am I missing here?
    You're not missing anything. The Maxx comes with a secure-element SIM.
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