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    What happened to the ability to manage files directly on the phone in KK? There is no longer anything in my app drawer that lets me see the files on my phone. Why would they remove that?

    I ask because I have a ring tone that I use based on SMS keywords as a pager. I used Motorola Migrate to transfer all my files. Despite being able to play the alert tone in my pager app, I cannot select it. It will always revert to a default tone. I need to see where it is and possibly move it. Outside of downloading a file manager app, there appears to be no way to do that now.

    I can also no longer move custom ringtones so that they are available to use by the system.

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    Last edited by Sandman333; 02-19-2014 at 09:13 AM.
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    You would have to download, a file manager from the play store.

    I recommend ES file manager, however, any of the file manager apps should do the job.

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    I guess the question is, why was the native file manager removed? I can see no good reason for that, and plenty of bad effects.

    My next question is, what folder do I need to put ringtones, alerts, etc in so that they are accessible by the system and all apps?
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    There was no native file manager on the Droid Maxx. I last saw one on the Droid RAZR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandman333 View Post
    I guess the question is, why was the native file manager removed? I can see no good reason for that, and plenty of bad effects.

    My next question is, what folder do I need to put ringtones, alerts, etc in so that they are accessible by the system and all apps?
    There is a folder called ringtones. Just use a file manager from the play store. I second ES File Explorer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandman333 View Post
    My next question is, what folder do I need to put ringtones, alerts, etc in so that they are accessible by the system and all apps?
    Any sound files in a folder that is named "ringtones" anywhere on accessible storage on your phone will show up inthe ringtone picker; sound files in a folder called "notifications" will show up in the notification picker, and files in a folder called "alarms" will show up in the alarm sound picker.

    So, the files can be in /ringtones, /notifications, and /alarms, or they can be in /media/ringtones, /media/notifications, and /media/alarms, or even /foo/bar/ringtones, /foo/notifications, and /bar/alarms. Etcetera.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hornbroo View Post
    There was no native file manager on the Droid Maxx. I last saw one on the Droid RAZR.

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    That's probably what I'm thinking of then. I've only had this phone for a little over a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doogald View Post
    Any sound files in a folder that is named "ringtones" anywhere on accessible storage on your phone will show up inthe ringtone picker; sound files in a folder called "notifications" will show up in the notification picker, and files in a folder called "alarms" will show up in the alarm sound picker.

    So, the files can be in /ringtones, /notifications, and /alarms, or they can be in /media/ringtones, /media/notifications, and /media/alarms, or even /foo/bar/ringtones, /foo/notifications, and /bar/alarms. Etcetera.
    Well, here's the problem. I use SMS Alerts by FastMob as a keyword filter for SMS. Specified keywords trigger an alert tone. I have one called "Pager". I can browse to that tone from within SMS Alerts and then click to select it. The tone plays like it should. As soon as I click "OK" to confirm my selection, it returns me to the SMS Alerts settings page and the alert selection tenets to a number instead of the Pager file I selected. I've tried putting Pager in different folders but it's always the same result. I can find, select, and play it but the settings page will not retain my selection. SMS Alerts never had this problem on my RAZR nor on the Droid MAXX under JB. Only since updating to KK has this become an issue. I'm at a loss as to how to solve it.

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    Here is the alert tone selection screen, showing that I can find and select PAGER:



    And this is what happens as soon as I click OK. The selection reverts to a number and is not the PAGER tone. This happens with every non stock tone on this phone.



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    Maybe the number represents Pager. Does it work? Do you hear Pager when you get a text?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsmumbles View Post
    Maybe the number represents Pager. Does it work? Do you hear Pager when you get a text?

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    No, as I said the number somehow links back to a stock android alert tone. Pager does not play when I receive a text that would trigger it. The stock Android alert plays.

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    /System/Media/Audio/Alarms is where I found the notification sounds on my Nexus 5. Maybe if you can copy and paste Pager into that folder it would work.

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    Oops, I should have said Notifications instead of Alarms; there are 4 folders for the various types of sounds in that audio directory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsmumbles View Post
    /System/Media/Audio/Alarms is where I found the notification sounds on my Nexus 5. Maybe if you can copy and paste Pager into that folder it would work.
    You can't paste files into /system or any subfolders unless you have rooted the phone and have sufficient rights to copy. But, as I said earlier, you can create a folder called /notifications anywhere in internal storage that you do have rights and the sound will show up in the notification picker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doogald View Post
    You can't paste files into /system or any subfolders unless you have rooted the phone and have sufficient rights to copy. But, as I said earlier, you can create a folder called /notifications anywhere in internal storage that you do have rights and the sound will show up in the notification picker.
    I've tried that with no success....

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    When you go to change your notification sound, use media storage to look for your file. I use zedge for all of my ring tones. It used to be that when I'm changing ring tones, I have to go into the zedge folder (as seen in attached screen shot) to get to all my stored ring tones. Since kit kat, all my ring tones that I downloaded from zedge, are in media storage and I have to select them from there instead. See if the pager sound has been moved to here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandman333 View Post
    I've tried that with no success....
    Do it from your computer, not the phone, If you do it on the phone, the proper location is /storage/emulated/0/notifications, not /sdcard/notifications, even though it looks the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beeare View Post
    When you go to change your notification sound, use media storage to look for your file. I use zedge for all of my ring tones. It used to be that when I'm changing ring tones, I have to go into the zedge folder (as seen in attached screen shot) to get to all my stored ring tones. Since kit kat, all my ring tones that I downloaded from zedge, are in media storage and I have to select them from there instead. See if the pager sound has been moved to here.

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    That's what I've been doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doogald View Post
    Do it from your computer, not the phone, If you do it on the phone, the proper location is /storage/emulated/0/notifications, not /sdcard/notifications, even though it looks the same.
    Thanks I'll have to try that.

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    OK, I'm pretty sure this is not a problem with the app, it's a problem or restriction with KK. I downloaded another keyword SMS filter app by a different vendor and I got the exact same problem when I tried to select an alert tone other than those that came with the phone. Where do I report this bug?



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    Can someone with KK confirm this on their phone so I know it's not just my phone that's the problem? This is the new app that I tried. Create a new alert, it doesn't matter what for, I just want to see if you can select a non stock notification tone.

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...us.prioritysms

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsmumbles View Post
    /System/Media/Audio/Alarms is where I found the notification sounds on my Nexus 5. Maybe if you can copy and paste Pager into that folder it would work.

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    I can't get to that folder without root. I tried following the jcase thread over on xda for getting root in KK, but about half the information for what needs to be done is not mentioned and I ended up bricking my phone. I exchanged it as I was still within my 14 day grace period. I won't be trying to root again (and I had absolutely no problem rooting my RAZR MAXX on JB.... ).

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    Incidentally, I observed this same behavior on my RAZR when I plugged it into my computer with a USB. The phone would lose access to the storage space where the alert tones were stored under USB mass storage mode. The phone would then change all my custom alert settings everywhere to seemingly random 4 digit numbers that linked back to stock android alerts / ringtones.

    In the current phone, it obviously has access to the alert tone files because I can see them in the selection window. It simply acts like it doesn't have access to them them instant I click OK to apply the selection.

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    Anyone?

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    I used an app called Airdroid to transfer my custom ringtones, alarms, etc., as well as about a gig of music. It's done over Wi-Fi, so you won't break any speed records, but you can manage quite a few tasks using the simple web interface.

    AirDroid gives your Android device its very own webtop [App Review] | Android Central

    It's been updated since the article, and is easy to use for simple device management. It's a lot easier than dragging out the cables...

    It's also good for quick & dirty backups...

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