The X is not an iPhone killer, it's a Blackberry killer

**lemcoe9** · 07-16-2010, 10:38 AM

So from everything I've heard, there are a crazy amount of people jumping ship from blackberry to use the droid x. Of course I understand that the iPhone is not on verizon, but I'm sure RIM is very nervous about this new handset taking many loyal users like myself.

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**jdbower** · 07-16-2010, 10:44 AM

Raw stats say if you're upgrading a smartphone there's a 47% chance it's a Blackberry. Add Verizon into the equation and it's much higher. However no phone will kill another, each has its own fans and my Tour isn't going anywhere.

**Rxracer** · 07-16-2010, 10:53 AM

So far, i feel like my Droid X is superior to my iPhone 3Gs... I also feel its superior to my DInc i returned..

**alpha752** · 07-16-2010, 10:55 AM

I love Blackberry, been using one off and on for years. The reason Blackberry is falling behind Android is their unevolving OS. The reason Blackberry still has a near 50% share is its unevolving OS. Its both a pro and a con for them.

For younger, more techy users, like I imagine most Android users are, Blackberry simply fell behind the times to a newer, fancier, flashier system. For older, professional users, Android is too much for them, and they stick with an easier to use, less flashy Blackberry.

RIM is locked in with the professional crowd. They are loosing with the young tech crowd. I think their place is secure, just not ideal for all.

JMO

**kajii** · 07-16-2010, 11:12 AM

I saw a bunch of AT&T converts yesterday at BB

**Cory Streater** · 07-16-2010, 11:17 AM

When the Droid came out, the forums were flooded with Verizon Blackberry converts. It happened again when the Incredible came out. Then the EVO came out and the forums were flooded with Sprint Palm users. It's kind of fun watching you guys as you flip over, because both groups have specific things they ask when the convert. The Blackberry users, in particular, immediately want to know how to do task management, and use the phrase "battery pull" a lot when talking about their BB platform. I don't think I've ever done a battery pull since I've been on Android. Did they several times a day though when I had Window Mobile and the old Palm based Treo phones.

**1088933** · 07-16-2010, 11:18 AM

Theres really no Phone Killer, but with phones like the DX it definitely makes some phone (*cough* BB) look like something from the ice ages.

**MolecularGraph** · 07-16-2010, 11:22 AM

I love my DX, its epic.

**zachflauaus** · 07-16-2010, 11:42 AM

The Droid X has essentially killed the chances of me going back to the BlackBerry platform. I was an avid BlackBerry fan but it got stale. Yes, I am in the demographic for the cool things (I'm 18), but I like y phone to work, not require me to remove my case to remove the battery, and for it to not freeze up when closing an application. Also, being a CS major helps with rounding out the geek factor.

**azmo** · 07-16-2010, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by jdbower

Raw stats say if you're upgrading a smartphone there's a 47% chance it's a Blackberry. Add Verizon into the equation and it's much higher. However no phone will kill another, each has its own fans and my Tour isn't going anywhere.

I have read some of these studies and have yet to see one with actual statistical merit. Just my 2cents.

**azmo** · 07-16-2010, 01:08 PM

I really like my X but think that BB gets a bad rap from the community. In many ways it is superior to Android. I really wish I had some of the features from BB ported over. BB is a messaging and calendar powerhouse. It is fast, efficient, and integrated. Even facebook, twitter, and myspace have excellent integration components for the BB.

Android has many pros as well and is what I am currently using. I think there is a market for both devices and I personally enjoy both platforms. Admittedly .. I am excited to see what RIM does with OS 6.

**jdbower** · 07-16-2010, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by azqretin

I have read some of these studies and have yet to see one with actual statistical merit. Just my 2cents.

Sorry, it's closer to 40% US marketshare now:

**lemcoe9** · 07-16-2010, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by azqretin

I really like my X but think that BB gets a bad rap from the community. In many ways it is superior to Android. I really wish I had some of the features from BB ported over. BB is a messaging and calendar powerhouse. It is fast, efficient, and integrated. Even facebook, twitter, and myspace have excellent integration components for the BB.

Android has many pros as well and is what I am currently using. I think there is a market for both devices and I personally enjoy both platforms. Admittedly .. I am excited to see what RIM does with OS 6.

I somewhat miss my blackberry. Namely the keyboard. But the simple texting was also the best.

I wish these two phones could fuse together.

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**tony bag o donuts** · 07-16-2010, 01:47 PM

To be honest, I don't think anything is a "killer" There are too many devices out there that will have a niche market.

If the iphone was called the palm_XXX it would not be selling like it has..... That is just my opinion.

I also think that apple now is playing catch up to the Incredible, Evo, X and D2...

If the next os for apple has widgets, look out!

**salanester** · 07-16-2010, 02:07 PM

The only thing is seems to be killing at the moment is me from the stares of death my wife keeps giving me for being on it too much.

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**azmo** · 07-16-2010, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by jdbower

Sorry, it's closer to 40% US marketshare now:

I think I mis-read your statement as saying that 47% chance people are leaving BB for other platforms ... which is what I was disagreeing with it.

You are saying that there is a 47% chance a person will adopt a blackberry? That I would believe.

**Yourdogsdead** · 07-16-2010, 02:18 PM

A lot of people my age (19) are getting blackberries. Something odd I noticed.

**joebob2000** · 07-16-2010, 02:43 PM

The Blackberry is going back to being an enterprise work phone platform. Why you would really want one as a gadget-geek is beyond me; they do what they are supposed to do but they are imminently unexceptional compared to any of the more trendy smartphones. It's nice having a built in messenger that works quickly and doesn't involve an expense (as does SMS) but it's only really an advantage if you are around other BB users. The only real use case for them is when you have a critical mass of users (like a workplace) and you want them to actually get **** done instead of spending all day playing with task killers, facebook widgets, battery monitors, signal strength apps, and loading hacked ROMs so they can watch HULU on their phone.

To any major corporation, even the Iphone with it's 4 years of popularity is still just barely on the radar of acceptance as a productivity device; it takes many years to change a major business platform. It will be a long time before Blackberry is displaced from that world, if ever.

**LeeVin** · 07-16-2010, 02:47 PM

My BB was difficult to use. Difficult to download and keep current my address book. It slowed my computer and was a giant mess. It froze all the time.

I never wanted an iPhone because I would NEVER go to AT&T. My X is a great alternative. I might actually keep this phone for a long time.

**scorpiodsu** · 07-16-2010, 03:30 PM

For years blackberries where the smartphones to get if you were going to get one. Then the iPhone came out and there were a lot of converts but not nearly as many as the converts on Android and the answer is simple. The iPhone is only on one carrier here in the US. So for the blackberry users looking to get a better phone but refused to go to AT&T, an Android device was the obvious answer. I'm sure if the iPhone was on all 4 major carriers you would see blackberry users jumping onto both iPhone and Android near equally. But since Android has several devices on 4 carriers it gives blackberry users the option to stay with their carrier and upgrade at the same time.

One thing we all can probably agree on, there are iPhone users on AT&T that can't wait for the Samsung Capitivate or any high end Android device and there are Incredible/X/Droid etc users on VZW are dying for a Verizon iPhone.

**MolecularGraph** · 07-16-2010, 03:34 PM

I don't want an iPhone, android is it!

**tony bag o donuts** · 07-16-2010, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by Yourdogsdead

A lot of people my age (19) are getting blackberries. Something odd I noticed.

because of BBM probably....and they use what their parents know....

**theiphonewannabe** · 07-16-2010, 03:40 PM

Why must everything be a killer of something...

Why not "Droid X - Hand in hand with the iPhone 4."

or "Droid X is the iPhone with a cooler name but leaves the iPhone alone because killing is so silly"

**Yourdogsdead** · 07-16-2010, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by tony bag o donuts

because of BBM probably....and they use what their parents know....

Is it really that great? I get along fine with my phone and its messenger app.

**c4v3man** · 07-16-2010, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by scorpiodsu

For years blackberries where the smartphones to get if you were going to get one. Then the iPhone came out and there were a lot of converts but not nearly as many as the converts on Android and the answer is simple. The iPhone is only on one carrier here in the US. So for the blackberry users looking to get a better phone but refused to go to AT&T, an Android device was the obvious answer. I'm sure if the iPhone was on all 4 major carriers you would see blackberry users jumping onto both iPhone and Android near equally. But since Android has several devices on 4 carriers it gives blackberry users the option to stay with their carrier and upgrade at the same time.

One thing we all can probably agree on, there are iPhone users on AT&T that can't wait for the Samsung Capitivate or any high end Android device and there are Incredible/X/Droid etc users on VZW are dying for a Verizon iPhone.

Great summary, except that if the iPhone was available on all carriers from the beginning, I'd say there's a decent chance Android wouldn't have existed, or at least be anywhere near the popularity it is today. If they are locked into a 5 year commitment with AT&T still, then I'd say the iPhone and Android userbases will be pretty comparable by the time that runs out, with higher adoption rates of Android devices at the time. Should make for a healthy userbase for both camps.