Memory leak and bad battery life
I have a bad memory leak and also bad battery life. When i restart the pone the memory will be around the mid 200s then a few hours later it will around 60mb. Coming from a blackberry im used to mem leaks but this is just ridiculous. Also the battery drops 50% after around 3-4 hrs only sending texts nothing else. I used my storm all day and at night i would have 40% left.
How do i go about finding mem leaks on this thing? Also how do i do a factory rest?
- 07-23-2010, 06:53 PM #2
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I will add my name down on the list as there definitely is a memory leak somewhere. I also start with around 215mb of totally free space, with another 60mb or so being used by like 20 apps. After being on for a few hours it drops to under 100mb free and about 80mb in 28 apps. So if its only going up 20mb from running apps, and the amount being used by the services doesn't change at all, wheres my other 100+mb?
As for battery life, it could depend on a few things:
1: screen brightness? (biggest killer)
2: performance or smart mode? if smart mode, how long does it take to time-out your data network? (should be around 30 minutes peak, 15 off-peak)
3: do you have any UI changing apps? lockbot/launcherpro/custom widgets
4: do you get bad signal where you are? if your phones constantly trying to get signal it will drain your battery quickly.Samsung Galaxy Note 2 on Verizon
Jelly Beans Build 16 - Perseus 36.3
- 07-23-2010, 07:30 PM #3
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My Nexus exhibited the same thing and to the point, I think its more of android's memory management then an actual memory leak. Remember like any other linux operating system. Free memory is wasted memory. I'd not really worry about free ram, and its affects on the battery. I doubt very much it has any since its just ram, even if some ram was lost because of a memory leak, it won't have an impact.
Push comes to shove however if you are worried, reboot the phone. That will fix it.
- 07-23-2010, 07:45 PM #4
There is no memory leak some app auto start which take up memory like gtalk, keyboard, etc. Please don't turn this into what the crackberry forums became after the launch of the storm 1. There is no way for memory not to be used on Android as there is always something in the background running its no big deal and it doesn't affect battery life. Speaking of battery life if you noticed that you tend to do things on a more powerful phone like actually using the browser because its good or apps/games because they are available. I came from a storm before I got my droid now I have a droid x and for me battery life has been more than acceptable.
- 07-23-2010, 08:32 PM #5
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But after re-examining this from a Windows 7 user perspective, RAM is meant to be used, not sit there empty. You place data into RAM preemptively so when you do go to use it there's no loading, its already there.
That being said there's definitely something that starts to choke up the system after being on for a few hours, and we're not just talking memory being soaked up like a Shamwow. I'm talking performance starts to seriously tank. An easy example of this is when I first boot up my phone and everythings cached and loaded fine, I turn off my screen and do something for a little while, then when I turn it back on it instantly loads my Homescreen, no lag or anything (I have screen lock disabled.)
But after a few hours of having my phone on idle, if I go to turn my screen on it lags for a sec, showing the unlock screen, then almost as if it remembers 'oh right he has this screen disabled' it just skips the unlock and finally loads my homescreen.
Aside from this constant decrease in performance/time dilemma, I must say my battery life is fine. I went 25 hours yesterday off the charger and was only at 40% battery life. I spent easily 5 hours using the phone browsing, streaming music, texting and downloading apps. For what this phone does and what kind of specs it has, thats pretty impressive. I just can't wait to slap a nice badass seidio extended life battery in this babySamsung Galaxy Note 2 on Verizon
Jelly Beans Build 16 - Perseus 36.3
- 07-23-2010, 09:16 PM #6
I too am getting the "slowness" after a few hours and I have not been able to peg down what causes it yet. I really wish there was a way to reboot the X via an app so a simple touch of an icon on the screen and yes click to an "are you sure?" prompt could turn the phone off and then back on again and everything would be good to go in under 2 minutes.
I know I can just reach up and hit the power button, but I hate reaching "all the way" up there! haha.
Note: Try killing the Corporate Directory. I have not used it once since turning on the device out of the box and it has the HIGHEST CPU usage in the list. That's crap.
Last edited by gafly; 07-23-2010 at 10:05 PM.Galaxy Note II - Rooted - Black Status Bar w/WiFi Toggle
- 07-23-2010, 10:24 PM #7
My first month or so after owning my Droid after owning a storm1 I was so paranoid of memory leaks. But no more. So please stop comparing the bb and Droid they are two different animals. The Droid will use what every memory it needs and then release it. Clear the fog of a bb and be happy.
I wasnt trying to compare it to my storm, I was just saying that I was used to having memory leaks but not this bad.
Also I dont kno how some of you get 12+ hours out of this phone. Today I had it unplugged for 3 hrs and it went down to 50% left. And this is after sending probably 50 texts nothing else, no browsing or voice calls. I'm sorry but that is really bad.
Are there any apps out there that can save the battery or something? I'm using ATK for the memory but that doesn't seam to help.
- 07-23-2010, 10:39 PM #10
another tip for longer battery life: if you dont use the moto UI social networking services, go to menu>settings>data manager>social networking options and set you social networking to only update when on a wi-fi connection. this is the biggest culprit for constant 3g use, and turning it to wi-fi only has kept my battery very high, as i dont really use the philblur for my facebook updates. if you do use the UI for social networking, then make good use of smart mode as others have detailed in this thread
- 07-23-2010, 10:42 PM #11
- 07-23-2010, 11:04 PM #14
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I find it hard to see the point in even putting out a phone that does anything but traditional calling.
Dont use this, dont use that. turn this off, turn this all the way down.etc etc.
what the hell is the point then of owning a device that can do all these things, but yet you can't use them or else your battery will die.
for me I just always keep my phone plugged in and charged up.
i have docks in the car and by the bed. and i have cables at home for the laptop and at work for the laptop. so I can just keep it plugged in where ever i go.
that way I can use the phone however i want.
I think it's silly to turn every feature off and dim the screen all the way down, just to use what it's supposed to be able to do.
- 07-23-2010, 11:09 PM #15
I think it's silly everyone turns all of the features off too and that is why I also have a charger at my bed, one just lying around, one at my desk, one in the car and one for my laptop bag. I bought a smartphone so I could use the stuff that makes it smart when I want to use it... I did not buy a smartphone to spend 90% of the time toggling crap on and off.Galaxy Note II - Rooted - Black Status Bar w/WiFi Toggle
- 07-23-2010, 11:25 PM #16
- 07-23-2010, 11:35 PM #17
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Yeah I'm getting the bad battery life too. Fully charged at 6 am and didn't make it to lunch. One 3 minute phone call and 3 texts...that's it. No GPS, no streaming, no internet usage, nothing. Screen was on for less than a minute every hour or two. Coming from the Incredible this is pretty ridiculous. I like the phone but if I can't figure this out in a few days it's going back.
- 07-23-2010, 11:43 PM #18
...I can see it now... Jobs comes out on stage in the next couple of years with the iPhone 5 and says that the phone's battery will make it last for 5 days!!! All you need to do is keep everything turned off for 4 and a half days! ...and the iGroupies do as told.Galaxy Note II - Rooted - Black Status Bar w/WiFi Toggle
- 07-23-2010, 11:47 PM #19Galaxy Note II - Rooted - Black Status Bar w/WiFi Toggle
- 07-23-2010, 11:49 PM #20
-turn off wi-fi/bluetooth/gps when not using them (and the UI has two different sets of toggle widgets to make this an easy 1-click process)
-go into the data manager in your settings and set social networking to only update on wi-fi (unless you actively use the UI social networking features)
-go in to battery manager in your settings and use smart mode to set an aggressive data timeout when your phone is not being used (i have mine timeout at 30 mins during peak hours)
try these for a few days and see if there is an improvement.
- 07-24-2010, 01:45 AM #21
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if this "smart" phone isn't smart enough to manage power, then it's not a very good smart phone IMO.
I understand you can't watch HD movies for 17 hours a day and expect to have 80% battery life left.
But I don't think it's beyond reasonable for the phone to be able to manage updating your social networking stuff, syncing your calendar.
getting your email, txt. phone.. etc..
these are all mostly small txt based updates.
If you use the GPS in your car, then it should be plugged in and in a dock.. shouldn't really be an issue.
The phone should be able to be used as it was designed WITHOUT having to resort to restrictive tactics just to get 8-12 hours of use.
if it's not, then there is some other sort of issue that needs to be resolved.
- 07-24-2010, 02:32 AM #22
Haven't been around smart phones much huh? these devices battery are not designed to give u much. if u want all day service or more invest in a larger battery. these devises are data intrusive be lucky MOTO has done something about trying to increase battery life. I had a Dinc and the battery was way worse then the X. for a large screen large processor and consent ringing of cell towers and what ever else you throw at it I'm happy for 8hours.
- 07-24-2010, 02:54 AM #23
- 07-24-2010, 05:37 AM #24
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- Swapping them all out
I had a lot of problems with mine.. then i took a lot of my live widgets off and it started improving, i'm getting a full day and a half's usage out of my battery now.Kyocera Strobe> Motorola Razor> Motorola Q> Blackberry Curve> Droid X> Fascinate
My father got my Droid X, my stepmother has a Droid 2, and I'm using a rooted Fascinate, swapping out lots of roms.
- 07-24-2010, 12:10 PM #25