When Hell Freezes Over

**Ricky Babalu** · 01-08-2011, 01:30 AM

Iphone is rumored to be available soon on Verizon. Is there anyone here who is even interested? I could give a rats a...... If it comes to Verizon, who is with me?

**Hovik818** · 01-08-2011, 02:29 AM

Honestly I could careless. I've looked over my options and android phones are like 5+ years technology wise ahead of apple for example widgets and video chat w/o wifi

**Ricky Babalu** · 01-08-2011, 03:06 AM

I have complete and utter disdain for anything crApple! I do not know where these feelings come from?

**Ricky Babalu** · 01-08-2011, 03:18 AM

This is an example of a late night post when enjoying a bottle of Caymus Cabernet!

**Ricky Babalu** · 01-08-2011, 03:19 AM

This is an example of a late night post when enjoying a bottle of Caymus Cabernet! Good night.

**DroidXcon** · 01-08-2011, 03:20 AM

Originally Posted by Ricky Babalu

This is an example of a late night post when enjoying a bottle of Caymus Cabernet!

This should be under the thread, you know you are addicted to android central when

http://forum.androidcentral.com/gene...t-when-14.html

**Ricky Babalu** · 01-08-2011, 03:22 AM

Intervention?

**Ricky Babalu** · 01-08-2011, 03:29 AM

Ok, I am going for the record for the most posts on your own thread!

**dwaynewilliams#WN** · 01-08-2011, 03:34 AM

What's wrong with the iPhone that everyone hates it?I won't be buying it but it would be nice to have the option of getting one on Verizon.

**Ricky Babalu** · 01-08-2011, 03:42 AM

Originally Posted by dwaynewilliams

What's wrong with the iPhone that everyone hates it?I won't be buying it but it would be nice to have the option of getting one on Verizon.

For me the arrogance of the figurehead.

**Smitty_82** · 01-08-2011, 05:07 AM

My biggest question, if/when the iphone comes to verizon and you don't buy it (like me) why does it even matter?

**Jussumguy88** · 01-08-2011, 05:31 AM

if the iphone does come to Verizon finally I still wont be interested in it myself. but as someone has said it will be great for the consumer to have various options on a great network.....I just wish I could get the thunderbolt... impossible since I just got my droid x in August..I am loving this phone though.

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**El Jefe** · 01-08-2011, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by dwaynewilliams

What's wrong with the iPhone that everyone hates it?

I don't like Apple because they seem to intentionally hold back features from their products to release them later as "upgrades" all the while claiming to be such innovators.

Perfect example is ipad & lack of a camera. You better believe they will be on the ipad 2 but were left off the original why?

**LastOstrogoth** · 01-08-2011, 07:59 AM

My son who is in his thirties wants an iPhone. I don't even try to argue with him. I love my Droid. Hey, that is why there are horse races. As to Verizon getting the iPhone. I doubt that it will be in the next 12 months, since AT&T has a exclusivity agreement with Apple that does not expire until late 2012 or possibly 2013. The rumors are just that, rumors. As for Apple holding back features, that is the computer industry. How many got the 133 MHz Pentium 1, the hottest thing on the market, and three months later the 166 was released, followed in another 3 months by the 233 and so on. This is an old story of marketing in the computer industry. It is why we at Verizon may be the last to get Gingerbread on our Droids. They will use it to sell whatever new model is released with it on it. They have done the same with Blackberry 6.0. Enjoy what you have and wait patiently is the only answer, or you will be forever chasing rainbows and spending more than you have.

**pre1561** · 01-08-2011, 08:04 AM

I don't like Steve Jobs & his dictator attude. I'll never buy anything Apple. Jobs needs to get with the program, I buy something I have some rights to do what I want with it. As long as I don't try to reverse engineer it and sell it the DRM is the owners not the manufactures.

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**El Jefe** · 01-08-2011, 08:14 AM

@lastostrogoth:

Processors not ready for release is hardly the same as a camera...something that has even been on all low end cell phones for what, 6-7 years!

**jeverts** · 01-08-2011, 08:40 AM

Complete and utter disdain - I couldn't agree more...

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**LastOstrogoth** · 01-08-2011, 09:33 AM

I am a teacher and the tech supervisor for my building, a systems administrator, responsible for approximately 300 computers. I work with Windows machines for most part. However, like most techies I know, I own two Apple computers. I also have a very fast custom-built Windows machine running Win 7. Apple is not Linux, although both are based on the Unix system. I have run Ubuntu on dual boot system, and liked it. However, it was still in a formative stage of development. My computers are not toys. They productivity machines. As such, I don't have time to monkey around with operating systems that need tweaking. Windows 7 has come closer to achieving the stability of an Apple OS than any previous version (I have owned Windows OSs since the days of 3.1). It is a very stable a reasonably easy system to work. On the other hand, OSX 6.XX is an incredibly simple system to use and navigate. In the last four years that I have used Apple computers I have had no crashes, no lock-ups, no viruses, no malware, in short, no problems. The reason for Apple's relative stability is that the OS is designed to run on a very limited number of hardware configurations, hence Android 1561's distain for Apple's rigidity. Windows and Linux have to run on an infinite number of configurations, hence their flakiness. If you use a computer as toy, and I have been guilty of that, then it is fun having a machine that requires tweaking and "engineering." However, when what you do depends on things working the first time and every time, then you want stable, predictable responses. That is what Apple is about. 99% of the computer buying public want a toaster. Apple is a toaster. The iPhone is a toaster by comparison to the much more powerful and adaptable Droid X. However, powerful, adaptable machines have a steep learning curve that many don't want to deal with. Therefore, Apple iPhone. As to the lack of a camera on an iPhone, many of us own digital cameras. I have two Canon Elphs. Neither has 8 MP resolution, but both take far better pictures than my phone does. The camera on the phone is nice in an emergency when I need a quick shot, but it isn't my first choice when taking shots for more aesthetic purposes. The fact that Apple left off the camera (a fact was was unaware of, seems to me irrelevant.) I rest my case.

**dahlheim** · 01-08-2011, 10:28 AM

LastOstrogoth hit the nail on the head with respect to the differences between the Apple and "other" mindsets. Apple's genius is in understanding the mindset of joe public, who is not interested in (and in fact, sick of) tinkering to get things to "just work", and that's what Apple products do.

Being a tinkerer by nature (Unix administrator in the 80's, and yes i generally run linux and it does need a tinkering here and there), i share the OP's relative disdain for the Apple philosophy. i want my products to do what i want them to do, and i don't want to be told i cannot.

this is why there is a free market. to each his own.

**broadwayblues** · 01-08-2011, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by LastOstrogoth

I don't have time to monkey around with operating systems that need tweaking. Windows 7 has come closer to achieving the stability of an Apple OS than any previous version (I have owned Windows OSs since the days of 3.1). It is a very stable a reasonably easy system to work. On the other hand, OSX 6.XX is an incredibly simple system to use and navigate. In the last four years that I have used Apple computers I have had no crashes, no lock-ups, no viruses, no malware, in short, no problems. The reason for Apple's relative stability is that the OS is designed to run on a very limited number of hardware configurations, hence Android 1561's distain for Apple's rigidity. Windows and Linux have to run on an infinite number of configurations, hence their flakiness. If you use a computer as toy, and I have been guilty of that, then it is fun having a machine that requires tweaking and "engineering." However, when what you do depends on things working the first time and every time, then you want stable, predictable responses. That is what Apple is about. 99% of the computer buying public want a toaster. Apple is a toaster. The iPhone is a toaster by comparison to the much more powerful and adaptable Droid X. However, powerful, adaptable machines have a steep learning curve that many don't want to deal with. Therefore, Apple iPhone. As to the lack of a camera on an iPhone, many of us own digital cameras. I have two Canon Elphs. Neither has 8 MP resolution, but both take far better pictures than my phone does. The camera on the phone is nice in an emergency when I need a quick shot, but it isn't my first choice when taking shots for more aesthetic purposes. The fact that Apple left off the camera (a fact was was unaware of, seems to me irrelevant.) I rest my case.

I have an iMac and I love it. I have an iPod Touch and love it too. I have a Droid X and love it also. The Mac and Touch are very reliable, they work and have a ton of content available. The DX is my toy, my project and I totally understand the learning curve that is mentioned above. Most people have NO IDEA what the Droid phones can do. They see the ads, open the box and use the phone. Maybe they get Angry Birds, maybe an app or two.
They very fact that we are on these forums proves that we are not most people. We like to tinker, some more than others, but most of us can realize the potential of what we use, rather than blindly going out and getting what the TV tells us to get.

Having said that, most people want something simple that works. My wife is a great example and a candidate for the iPhone. The WSJ is saying the . They have a great track record when it comes to scooping Apple products.

We might like to jailbreak or root something as soon as we get it. Most people are mindless when it comes to tech devices. Don't hate on Verizon for suppling a very obvious demand put on them.

I am going to look at the iPhone when it comes out and get one for my wife, who can hand down the Droid 2 to my son, who can finally ditch the BB Bold 9650. She gets a very simple, reliable device, and my kid will finally come to 2005 with my wife's old D2.

**Cyber Warrior** · 01-08-2011, 10:50 AM

AT&T can keep the iPhone....we have Android. Many people blame AT&Ts bad coverage and data speeds due to all the iPhone congestion. I know a lot of people can't wait to jump ship over to Verizon once they get the iPhone. Hopefully the same thing will not happen to Verizons network with all these new iphone users headed our way.

**Jussumguy88** · 01-08-2011, 10:54 AM

AT&T can keep the iPhone....we have Android. Many people blame AT&Ts bad coverage and data speeds due to all the iPhone congestion. I know a lot of people can't wait to jump ship over to Verizon once they get the iPhone. Hopefully the same thing will not happen to Verizons network with all these new iphone users headed our way.

that is IF Verizon really gets it. this iphone come to Verizon rumor has been floating around for I wanna say about three years now...so I'm at a "ill believe it when I see it" point right now.

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**green** · 01-08-2011, 10:54 AM

Honestly, I would take the iPhone over any of the phones revealed at CES. None of them really impressed me. Though I would probably still choose the Thunderbolt over the Bionic, even if it's not dual core.

**ultravisitor** · 01-08-2011, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by El Jefe

Perfect example is ipad & lack of a camera. You better believe they will be on the ipad 2 but were left off the original why?

No, a better example would be the lack of MMS messaging in the iPhone for HOW MANY years? This was a feature that free phones had for years, and the iPhone was WAY behind on the curve in getting it.

**Jussumguy88** · 01-08-2011, 11:03 AM

What's wrong with the iPhone that everyone hates it?I won't be buying it but it would be nice to have the option of getting one on Verizon.

I don't hate it...it just wouldn't make ANY sense for me to have one. I have an ipod touch. That being said I guess I'm getting the best of both worlds.

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