[Ricky Babalu]

Can't say this comes as any surprise. Verizon not happy with growing list of bugs on Gingerbread.

[Live2ride883]

Not too happy about this since I will be getting my DX2 from Verizon later this week.

[wormeyman]

Good fix the droid X and then move onto the rest of the phones, my DX is very usable but definately a bit more buggy.

[Dubbayoo]

I have a lot more bugs on my droid x right now with GB. Too many. Some deal breakers too.

Sent from my DROIDX

[WAldenIV]

I still maintain that many bugs are due to users manually upgrading by non-official means. Are there a few bugs? Sure, I bet there are a few. However, I think most of the problems are overblown and user error.

[alcor34]

I still maintain that many bugs are due to users manually upgrading by non-official means. Are there a few bugs? Sure, I bet there are a few. However, I think most of the problems are overblown and user error.

I beg to differ. I believe that the real issue here is one of third party apps. When moto releases software they only test its use with the apps they or verizon approves, and even then there are bugs with their pre approved apps. In any case, Moto or VZW can't test every possible sinario with the thousands of apps available for download. And yes each person's phone operates differently and we all have different stuff installed, so of course when you load new software against unknown situations, it will most likely cause problems.

I'm sure that many people out there with device issues, if they deleted all the 3rd party apps they installed and removed non approved tweaks, reset the device, and run it how it came, there would be minimal issues, which proves the point of the more you begin to install, the higher the rate of issues you receive.

subjective ---

[greydarrah]

I think it's app conflicts. I don't have a single issue with GB (running the official OTA). Mine is smooth, fast, never reboots itself...well worth the upgrade.

[wildman]

I beg to differ. I believe that the real issue here is one of third party apps. When moto releases software they only test its use with the apps they or verizon approves, and even then there are bugs with their pre approved apps. In any case, Moto or VZW can't test every possible sinario with the thousands of apps available for download. And yes each person's phone operates differently and we all have different stuff installed, so of course when you load new software against unknown situations, it will most likely cause problems.

I'm sure that many people out there with device issues, if they deleted all the 3rd party apps they installed and removed non approved tweaks, reset the device, and run it how it came, there would be minimal issues, which proves the point of the more you begin to install, the higher the rate of issues you receive.

subjective ---

+1, I have said that for the longest time but so many are just not prepared to hear that a hard reset before update would minimize issue because of all the custom configurations... I haven't had any major issue with my device after a update because I make a habit of backing up and wiping before updating.

Maybe more will start acknowledging this soon...

[urdaddi]

I still maintain that many bugs are due to users manually upgrading by non-official means. Are there a few bugs? Sure, I bet there are a few. However, I think most of the problems are overblown and user error.

Well, you happen to be assuming incorrectly.

I have a great deal of issues from GB, and I have no mods at all on my device.


Not being able to recieve or make a phone call is not something "overblown"

[WAldenIV]

I beg to differ. I believe that the real issue here is one of third party apps. When moto releases software they only test its use with the apps they or verizon approves, and even then there are bugs with their pre approved apps. In any case, Moto or VZW can't test every possible sinario with the thousands of apps available for download. And yes each person's phone operates differently and we all have different stuff installed, so of course when you load new software against unknown situations, it will most likely cause problems.

I'm sure that many people out there with device issues, if they deleted all the 3rd party apps they installed and removed non approved tweaks, reset the device, and run it how it came, there would be minimal issues, which proves the point of the more you begin to install, the higher the rate of issues you receive.

subjective ---

Agreed. I should have noted app conflicts in my "user error" bucket.

[ultravisitor]

Well, you happen to be assuming incorrectly.

I have a great deal of issues from GB, and I have no mods at all on my device.

How do you know it's Gingerbread and not apps creating problems? Have you tried a factory reset?

[jpr196]

I still maintain that many bugs are due to users manually upgrading by non-official means. Are there a few bugs? Sure, I bet there are a few. However, I think most of the problems are overblown and user error.

Normally, I would agree with you because I normally don't see the bugs that most people complain about when applying software updates. However, my stock phone still has inconsistent bugs since the upgrade to gingerbread.

I can understand if someone were to say the random restarts are caused by a conflicting app. That may very well be the case.

However, I doubt there's an app on my phone that is restricting the network from reconnecting at random times. This is a critical flaw in the update. My Droid X's most basic and important function drops out randomly without being fixable without restarting the phone.

I don't adhere to the idea that a software update needs to be completed from a vanilla environment.

[JkdJedi]

Can't say this comes as any surprise. Verizon not happy with growing list of bugs on Gingerbread.

What Bugs!?!?

[roberte1342]

This all seems eerily similar to the ReplayTV fiasco of 2002. ReplayTV rushed out their 5000 series DVR just ahead of the upcoming holiday.
But not all DVRs were equal. The existing software worked ok on most boxes but was an intermittent bug nightmare for the rest.
Anxious waiting for software updates. Missed deadlines and promised features that never saw the light of day.
Not all hardware is equal and there are tolarances from one devices to the other. My guess, like ReplayTV, Moto built hardware with such thin tolarances that these updates do work for most but not everyone.
I was able to get a working ReplayTV after a few exchanges.
If you are still receiving bugs even after a factory wipe save yourself the trouble of waiting for an update that may never come and replace it while there is still warranty remaining. Once the warranty is up there will be less pressure on Moto to get it right.
If there are so many posts about how flawless this update is you may luck out with different hardware.


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[mac16]

Im on the rooted and deodexed version of the .596 GB and I have 0 problems. I also had 0 problems running the leaked GB for the past month or so.

Ill leave it to you guys to figure out where the problems are coming from...

[Ricky Babalu]

What Bugs!?!?

I can also say the same (no bugs), but then again I am still on Froyo. I do not doubt though, that there are numerous members here with problems. Count yourself as lucky..........?

[jpr196]

Im on the rooted and deodexed version of the .596 GB and I have 0 problems. I also had 0 problems running the leaked GB for the past month or so.

Ill leave it to you guys to figure out where the problems are coming from...

I agree..instead of looking at the end users and apps as the heart of the problem..let's look at the root of where it all starts.

Moto takes a working vanilla version of the Google OS and then plasters their custom UI and who knows what other crap all over it. Then Verizon adds their bloat.

There are so many variables and possible points of failure before the users ever get their hands on the OS.

[ipkh]

I took every precaution when upgrading to the OTA update.
I de-rooted and did a reset to make sure.
The OTA update worked fine for a while, then went nuts with rebooting during audio playback.
Calls with 0:00 time before disconnecting. 3G not picking up until reboot.
I have since done several factory resets with some improvement.
Regardless of whether this is an OS issue or a hardware issue, errors/glitches should not be able to crash/reboot core features of the OS/Phone. Also, for all those blaming apps/blur, apps/themes are sandboxed and therefore are unlikely to be causing these issues. Since all android apps run in a virtualized environment, their ability to cause problems is minuscule at best. It's like with modern OSs, the app crashes leaving the OS running.

[johncihak]

That's only true for a perfect OS. I think the fact that the OS reboots randomly already establishes it is imperfect. It may be vulnerable to memory overflow issues or other corruption. In that case, Motoblur or other bloatware could easily be the problem.

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[ultravisitor]

This all seems eerily similar to the ReplayTV fiasco of 2002. ReplayTV rushed out their 5000 series DVR just ahead of the upcoming holiday.
But not all DVRs were equal. The existing software worked ok on most boxes but was an intermittent bug nightmare for the rest.
Anxious waiting for software updates. Missed deadlines and promised features that never saw the light of day.
Not all hardware is equal and there are tolarances from one devices to the other. My guess, like ReplayTV, Moto built hardware with such thin tolarances that these updates do work for most but not everyone.
I was able to get a working ReplayTV after a few exchanges.

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WOW! Someone who remembers ReplayTV. God, I loved ReplayTV.

I only needed one exchange of my box.

[blaidth]

I have had very minor issues with Gingerbread, not anything more than Froyo. Maybe as a last resort before trying new hardware you should try SBF back to Foryo and try to reupdate.. Myabe your update file was corupted somewhat on download?? not sure if that could happen, but with lots of problems it would be worth the try.

[wildman]

I agree..instead of looking at the end users and apps as the heart of the problem..let's look at the root of where it all starts.

Moto takes a working vanilla version of the Google OS and then plasters their custom UI and who knows what other crap all over it. Then Verizon adds their bloat.

There are so many variables and possible points of failure before the users ever get their hands on the OS.

You have a very good point and I can agree with this explanation, its kind of like some of the vehicles made these days, they are designed to be reliable transportation but the manufacture usually decide to use cheaper parts from another vehicle so parts would be easier for them to find but the issue is that the part wasn't designed for vehicle so they modify the vehicle to accept it anyway that usually compromise the usual stable design and function of item.

I noticed a number of users that disables the Bloatware seems to experience less issues which make a user wonder if this is the nature of all users problems or at least the starting point.

[Live2ride883]

Random reboots, having to pull the battery after almost every call before the phone will work again. Along with other issues I am done with GB and the DX. I have had 7 replacements since launch, most for BT issues and not placing calls. VZW is giving me a DX2, it should be here Tuesday. I hoped to receive it by Friday but no such luck.

[wabyrd]

I still maintain that many bugs are due to users manually upgrading by non-official means. Are there a few bugs? Sure, I bet there are a few. However, I think most of the problems are overblown and user error.

I disagree with you. I have...actually....HAD two Droid X's. One rooted, one TOTALLY STOCK. I did the official OTA update. Had problems with random reboots, the 00:00 phone call that ends as soon as you start it (only fixed with a reboot), and when I would leave a WiFi area neither one would pick up a 3G signal untill I did a reboot. At least on Froyo, despite the reboots, I could make phone calls and get a 3G signal.

Factory reset? You bet. Again and again and again and again...Every time I called tech support. It is as if the only words the tech support guys know is "Did you try a factory reset?" It was really awesome that one of the phones did a random reboot in the middle of the setup process with tech support on phone. The other problems still happened even when NO apps were installed (tried testing to see if it was an app causing issues for 24 hours). I even tried SBF back to stock Froyo and then doing the GB update with NO apps installed and I STILL had problems with the X's.

I almost went POSTAL when the jackhole behind the counter at the corporate Verizon store told me I should have insurance to protect my phone from these kinds of problems! REALLY?!? I need insurance to protect my phone from THEIR upgrade that was pushed out and made my phone unusable?!?!

All of these problems times 2 phones! I just couldn't take any more. It was practically to the point that I had to reboot the phone each time I left the house and each time I left work. I had to regularly reboot before I could make a phone call. It was just TOO much!

I had used the phones for nearly a year, so even though THEIR software update broke my phone, I didn't have a problem paying for a new phone as long as I could get the subsidized pricing. After a lot of complaining to the customer service rep on the phone, I managed to get 2 new DINC 2's for $99 each. Not too bad of a deal. Sure the DINC2 is on Froyo, but it WORKS! No reboots, no 00:00 calls, and it finds 3G every time I leave the house without a reboot required. I loved the X when it worked, but the GB update made it "not work" more than was acceptable. I'm starting to get used to Sense and you can find my X on eBay with all of it's accessories!


I'm done with Moto for a while. I'll give HTC a chance to woo me. So far, they're doing a good job!

[Dubbayoo]

My phone was more or less flawless til GB; now I have issues with GPS, bluetooth pairing, freezes and other annoyances.