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    Is it me or did Motorola out a unfinished tablet on the market with the promise of having a complete device in the near future. But here it is 2012 and I still can't write anything to my SD card. Honey comb is a big fail but I don't know who to blame. (Maybe myself for buying the damn thing) now here comes another failed promise xoom is going to be the first tablets to get ics. Asus is less then two weeks of getting ics and any word from Motorola hell no. I defended my xoom from apple fan boys for long enough and I'm done next. Time somebody says their ipad is better I'm going to say your right.
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    I can't blame you for feeling the way you do.. I feel about the same nd to make things worse asus is updating the Prime with ICS today according to this link:

    http://www.androidcentral.com/asus-t...today#comments

    We were lied to by motorola. And if I find out that ICS was delayed because Motorola put some motoblur or other skin on ICS I am going to be very upset.
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    If xoom don't get ice soon I just go and get me a ipad and I hate apple but at least they wont pull this .
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    I wouldn't go that far I would rather use a cardboard box and call it a tablet, rather than use an ipad. just like how I rather use two cups tied together by string rather than use an iphone. Lol
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    If you don't like you Xoom I will give you my address and you can just send them to me. Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deecoop0351 View Post
    If xoom don't get ice soon I just go and get me a ipad and I hate apple but at least they wont pull this .
    Because Ice Cream Sandwich is the Holy Grail?

    Let me get this straight - your Xoom is completely non-functional without ICS, because...you cannot write to the SD card? (is there any other perceived deficiencies that might be addressed by ICS?)

    You might want to take a look at the specs on those iPads. At least you won't have to be concerned about the ability to write to an SD card - because the iPad doesn't even have an SD slot, and never will.

    Oh, and I'll give you $100 for that useless, non-functional, and way way too heavy Xoom of yours.
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    How many other Tablets out there gave you a tablet that came out as a 3G tablet, and could be upgraded to the newer 4G technology that was coming out? (still waiting for the answer on this one)?

    Why is it so important that you have a device that is the first to get the new ICS os? First you complain that Motorola puts out a product that was not quite ready, but in the same breath, you complain that they are not the first one to put ICS on a tablet, because they would rather wait until everything works properly.

    It looks like you should just switch over the Apple. At least you know that you will only have one tablet to choose from and will not have to complain when another manufacturer comes out with something better, or complain when another manufacturer gets the newest IOS before your version of Ipad gets it.

    Good luck with your choice. I am quite happy with my Xoom. Have not had a problem. Sent my worthless tablet in to get it upgraded to the newest 4g technology without problem. And will upgrade to the newest OS once if is available, since my tablet is working quite well on the current OS that exists on the tablet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harold42483 View Post
    I feel about the same nd to make things worse asus is updating the Prime with ICS today .
    Speaking of "unfinished products" it seems ASUS has announced that it will be releasing a new version of the TP (Transformer Prime (the TF700T) ) with a redesigned case that will supposedly address the issue with limited WiFi range that users have been finding.

    Now, don't get me wrong. The TP is a great device, and kudos to ASUS for getting both Tegra 3 and ICS out the door ASAP. But, like the Xoom, they haven't been issue-free.

    I'd love to get ICS on my Xoom, but I'm okay with waiting til the bugs are worked out first. I will not be surprised if within the next weeks, we start hearing about glitches with TP's running ICS - because ASUS didn't do those "soak tests", etc.

    There's a cost to rushing to market. Motorola suffered with the Xoom (even though it is a great device anyway), and ASUS is risking the same now.
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    Don't forget that seamless multi tasking with the iPad. And how about that thumb keyboard which allows decent typing in landscape mode. Aren't those iPad widgets beautiful, oops never mind.

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    I wonder if the early pioneers that traveled west complained about the bumps they hit because somebody else promised them smooth roads (someday).

    Well, I consider us early Xoom owners pioneers. Yep, we've had some bumps, but we've also had a very nice tool to use for the past nine months or so.

    I've had an IPad - do you want to talk about bumps in the road?

    Quit your gripping and smell the roses, or turn the thing off and send it to me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by deecoop0351 View Post
    If xoom don't get ice soon I just go and get me a ipad and I hate apple but at least they wont pull this .
    Oh yeah, Apple is benevolent. Just ask anyone who had the beta of Siri running on their iPhone4. As soon as they released iOS5 and the iPhone4S, they pulled Siri off of all those phones. Yeah, just go running up to Apple with a big ol' wet kiss. ;-)

    I'm as annoyed as any other XOOM owner. Motorola Solutions is run by morons. They had so much potential, but stepped on their own *you-know-what*. It will take some time before we see if Google can fix it. Their apparent support for the current management is totally misplaced, so that doesn't foster much hope.

    But to say an iPad is better than an Android tablet. That's insane unless all you do with a tablet is entertain yourself. I use my XOOM in enterprise and there's no touching Android for my environment. I just couldn't do what I do with an iPad. Maybe as Apple adds more features it will become a useful enterprise tool, but at the moment it's mostly toy.

    I think the problem a lot of new Android users have is they are actually looking for an entertainment toy. Android is mostly an enterprise tool and moving toward satisfying the toy-minded. iPad is mostly a toy and moving toward enterprise applications.

    So if you're living with your parents, are a gamer, music nut, incessant video watcher, etc... go get an iPad. It will "just work" for you. Your brain won't be taxed in any way and all your high school friends will think it's cool.

    If you're a serious person, making a living, possess half a brain, and want something to assist you to thrive and prosper, then an Android tablet is for you.

    It may not be like that forever, but it's like that right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rickt1152 View Post
    Don't forget that seamless multi tasking with the iPad. And how about that thumb keyboard which allows decent typing in landscape mode. Aren't those iPad widgets beautiful, oops never mind.

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    Oops! Seems you forgot to also mention the vast superiority of Apples 4G/LTE implementation. It must be sooooooo much fast than the Xoom's
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    Oops! Seems you forgot to also mention the vast superiority of Apples 4G/LTE implementation. It must be sooooooo much fast than the Xoom's
    My bad, forgot that one as well as about a dozen other major features the xoom has that the iPad is missing.

    I also have an iPad 2 in my house and make these comments with substantial experience with both devices. The iPad is a great media device and is very smooth, but overall, I almost always reach for the xoom when I have something to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickt1152 View Post
    My bad, forgot that one as well as about a dozen other major features the xoom has that the iPad is missing.

    I also have an iPad 2 in my house and make these comments with substantial experience with both devices. The iPad is a great media device and is very smooth, but overall, I almost always reach for the xoom when I have something to do.

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    I'm always amused by these posters who are going to teach one vendor (Moto/Verizon/etc.) a lesson by dumping the device they've already paid for, and buying a competing model. Proposing to take a big step backwards, especially if it involves entirely giving up the feature that is an annoyance (i.e. being able to write to an SD card from within apps), just adds to that silliness.

    My oldest daughter and her husband have iPad 2's (WiFi), and do my in-laws (one WiFi, one 3G).

    The screens on the iPads are, well, just beautiful (my wife's Samsung Tab is just as good), but there are so many things that all four of them envy about my (and my other daughter's ) Xooms. How easily they hook up to an HDMI TV, with a inexpensive cable, and without locking up when using some $35 adapter; add-on swappable storage with inexpensive micro SD cards; and especially the the way they work like a flash drive when hooked up to a PC (no need to use iTunes to sync.

    My father-in-law did something wrong when syncing, and ended up with 6 copies each of aroung 800 pictures he tried to put on his iPad. The iPads photo manager could not even delete them. I was floored by such basic dis-functionality in such a highly touted and pricey device.

    I'll buy another Xoom, or any other Android tablet before I step down to an iPad.
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    I bought my OG Xoom 1 week after release and I would do it again in a heartbeat.

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    i will say it again here also, you bought it so deal with it. you apparently did not do your research on this product when you bought. so its not to your liking? oh well, try something else (root) or go buy your ipad.
    its called a choice people. you made that choice and now you want to complain. we as americans have choices in our lives. we dont like one thing try another. you have to do your research on a product before you buy it. you just dont walk into a car dealer and buy a 30k car without doing some research or even test drive it do you? i know 30k to a $300 item is a big comparison but think about it. same concept.
    example i have the thunderbolt and my BIGGEST complaint was the battery. it took me months to get this thing tweaked out to where i can go 2 full days of use of it now. you know why? cause i did my research, now this thing flies and the battery is awesome. i learned what i can and cant do on my phone. i read the forums, THE most useful info can be found right here in these forums on your product
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    So what that ICS is not on XOOM first. The MOTO website says it IS coming. How much will it cost us to upgrade? NOTHING!! Complaining about something for nothing is a classic spoiled reaction. I want to be first and to h*** with everyone else. Cool you jets bud. Its not the end of the owrld. It will come. You just need to be patient. You got what you paid for and then some. Nothing at the time of purchase stated or guaranteed ICS would come to XOOM or even first. If this is all you ahve to complain about then i guess you have a pretty good life! no go out and get a life!
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    Quote Originally Posted by slwerner View Post
    Speaking of "unfinished products" it seems ASUS has announced that it will be releasing a new version of the TP (Transformer Prime (the TF700T) ) with a redesigned case that will supposedly address the issue with limited WiFi range that users have been finding.

    Now, don't get me wrong. The TP is a great device, and kudos to ASUS for getting both Tegra 3 and ICS out the door ASAP. But, like the Xoom, they haven't been issue-free.

    I'd love to get ICS on my Xoom, but I'm okay with waiting til the bugs are worked out first. I will not be surprised if within the next weeks, we start hearing about glitches with TP's running ICS - because ASUS didn't do those "soak tests", etc.

    There's a cost to rushing to market. Motorola suffered with the Xoom (even though it is a great device anyway), and ASUS is risking the same now.
    The transformer may not be issue free. But, no matter how you cut it, the Xoom has been botched from the start by Motorola. Especially when you factor in the delay in upgrading the device.


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    First the Motorola xoom wifi SD card issue is Google's fault not Motorolas they designed HC for the tablet and moto had no control on features on USA wifi version they just test then disrubute it. That is why Asus and euro xooms could write to SD cards they modified the code like devolpers are currently doing

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulDroidR2D2 View Post
    The transformer may not be issue free. But, no matter how you cut it, the Xoom has been botched from the start by Motorola. Especially when you factor in the delay in upgrading the device.


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    Botched?

    Hardly.

    You see, I bought my Xoom back in Feb so that I could use it for mobile computing. It's done an outstanding job of that for me.

    While the Moto/VZ/Google struggled to get their collective act together to deliver such things as SD card (read) access and LTE, these were but "perks" to me. My Xoom has been getting the job done all along, and has proven to be a great investment for me (even @ $600/2-yr contract, and $35/mo - 3GB). Month after month I use up most of 3Gb, and likely a lot more data when I'm on WiFi. I use it several hours in any given day, with a significant portion of that time getting actual work done on it.

    Had it never got SD access nor LTE, I'd still be getting great amounts of usage/work out of it.

    I rather suspect that a lot of people who imagine themselves "early adapters" really had little idea of how they would utilize a tablet, but wanted to be out-front of the techno-curve.

    I already had a very good Idea of how I was going to be using mine, having been through variety of device trying to figure out what was going to best serve me in my mobile computing needs. Prior to getting my oh-so functional Xoom, the best "fit" I'd found was my Droid X phone. It had usable apps (Documents to Go) and true mobile access (3G) that allowed me to take advantage of cloud computing (Google Docs, DropBox, etc.) to access and edit work product, and enter test result data as I moved from lab to lab, and to take notes and create diagrams. It even lets me hook directly into our conference room HDMI TV's with an inexpensive (if you get them through Amazon) cable, and give presentations (all without the previous need to check out AV equipment, nor worry about connectivity issues). The Xoom offers the same, with a more usable screen size.

    It was actually more functional, over-all, that the tablet PC that I had leased for a time to test (and a whole lot less expensive in the long-run).

    Needless to say, I am extremely happy with my Xoom. Sure, I'd like even more, and I will undoubtedly be buying an upgrade in the future (I'm holding out for larger screen size, higher res, more memory and, hopefully, greater USB host functionality. These seem not to be unreasonable expectations for subsequent generations of tablets, but as the improvements thus far are essentially "marginal", I'm perfectly happy to keep using my Xoom, even though it has fallen well off the techno-lead. I don't even mind if I end up skipping a whole generation or two of tablets in order to wait for the one I really want.

    My Xoom isn't meant to impress people (the way I see a significant number of people using (under-) using their iPads), nor to make me look like some sort of leading-edge technophile. It's to help me get lots of real work done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slwerner View Post
    Botched?

    Hardly.

    You see, I bought my Xoom back in Feb so that I could use it for mobile computing. It's done an outstanding job of that for me.
    Wow, what a coincidence, so did I.
    While the Moto/VZ/Google struggled to get their collective act together to deliver such things as SD card (read) access and LTE, these were but "perks" to me.
    I have news for you. Not everyone who purchased Xooms when they came are you.
    My Xoom has been getting the job done all along, and has proven to be a great investment for me (even @ $600/2-yr contract, and $35/mo - 3GB). Month after month I use up most of 3Gb, and likely a lot more data when I'm on WiFi. I use it several hours in any given day, with a significant portion of that time getting actual work done on it.
    That's awesome. You do realize that other people have opinion's of the device that differ from you right? You seem to be quite defensive that people have an opinion about the Xoom that isn't the same as yours, especially if their opinion isn't a positive one about the Xoom.
    Had it never got SD access nor LTE, I'd still be getting great amounts of usage/work out of it.
    Congratulations!
    I rather suspect that a lot of people who imagine themselves "early adapters" really had little idea of how they would utilize a tablet, but wanted to be out-front of the techno-curve.
    It sounds like you have an awesome imagination.
    I already had a very good Idea of how I was going to be using mine, having been through variety of device trying to figure out what was going to best serve me in my mobile computing needs. Prior to getting my oh-so functional Xoom, the best "fit" I'd found was my Droid X phone. It had usable apps (Documents to Go) and true mobile access (3G) that allowed me to take advantage of cloud computing (Google Docs, DropBox, etc.) to access and edit work product, and enter test result data as I moved from lab to lab, and to take notes and create diagrams. It even lets me hook directly into our conference room HDMI TV's with an inexpensive (if you get them through Amazon) cable, and give presentations (all without the previous need to check out AV equipment, nor worry about connectivity issues). The Xoom offers the same, with a more usable screen size.

    It was actually more functional, over-all, that the tablet PC that I had leased for a time to test (and a whole lot less expensive in the long-run).

    Needless to say, I am extremely happy with my Xoom. Sure, I'd like even more, and I will undoubtedly be buying an upgrade in the future (I'm holding out for larger screen size, higher res, more memory and, hopefully, greater USB host functionality. These seem not to be unreasonable expectations for subsequent generations of tablets, but as the improvements thus far are essentially "marginal", I'm perfectly happy to keep using my Xoom, even though it has fallen well off the techno-lead. I don't even mind if I end up skipping a whole generation or two of tablets in order to wait for the one I really want.

    My Xoom isn't meant to impress people (the way I see a significant number of people using (under-) using their iPads), nor to make me look like some sort of leading-edge technophile. It's to help me get lots of real work done.
    I'm so happy for you. I'm glad you do not feel that Motorola didn't screw up. Unfortunately, I respectfully disagree with that opinion. Is that okay with you?
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    Wow, what a coincidence, so did I.

    I have news for you. Not everyone who purchased Xooms when they came are you.

    That's awesome. You do realize that other people have opinion's of the device that differ from you right? You seem to be quite defensive that people have an opinion about the Xoom that isn't the same as yours, especially if their opinion isn't a positive one about the Xoom.

    Congratulations!

    It sounds like you have an awesome imagination.

    I'm so happy for you. I'm glad you do not feel that Motorola didn't screw up. Unfortunately, I respectfully disagree with that opinion. Is that okay with you?
    Of course it's okay if you disagree with my opinions.

    You claim that the Xoom is somehow entirely "bothched". I say it works fine for what is supposed to do, and has only been improved upon since the time I bought mine.

    Yes, the improvements have come at a snails pace, but it's not as if the Xoom ever stopped functioning while it waited for upgrades/updates. But come they have.

    When it comes to the utility and functionality of the Xoom, I'm certainly more of glass-half-full (well, in the case of the Xoom, glass-90%-full) guy. I've never had the "perfect" device for all my needs. PDA's Phones, desktops, laptops, PC's & Mac's, Windows 1.04 to 7, they've all let me down and caused times of frustration. But, through it all, I've learned to not expect perfection, and to get by with the resources available. From that perspective, the Xoom has been a pleasant surprise in just how well it has served me.

    You are, of course, quite free to deem the Xoom an absolute, start-to-finish failure. But, other than complaints about the delayed upgrade (and I assume slow updates), the only other dissatisfaction I recall that you presented with your Xoom is that it doesn't stream video as well as your phone.

    I can list a host of things my Xoom has done well for me, despite all the flaws you note. It's a shame that none of the Xoom's many functional attributes were able to meet your needs. Sounds rather like your not really the type of user who could gain much from any tablet (over other devices/solutions), even if an upgrade to fully functional, error-free ICS were to arrive on your Xoom today.
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    Well I just bought a XOOM on Craigslist the other day, rooted it, installed the stock 4.0.3 rom, and I absolutely love it. I played with it on honeycomb for a day, and the ics is way snappier, and it syncs with my nexus to a T. So far I love it

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    Of course it's okay if you disagree with my opinions.

    You claim that the Xoom is somehow entirely "bothched". I say it works fine for what is supposed to do, and has only been improved upon since the time I bought mine.
    Really? Well kudos to you. The device was supposed to be a 4G LTE device with a functioning micro sd card roughly two months after it was released. That didn't happen. Within weeks of the device finally being upgraded to what it was supposed to be, its replacement was released. You are failing to recognize that different people have different expectations.
    Yes, the improvements have come at a snails pace, but it's not as if the Xoom ever stopped functioning while it waited for upgrades/updates. But come they have.
    Again, I'm happy for you that you are satisified with the Xoom.
    When it comes to the utility and functionality of the Xoom, I'm certainly more of glass-half-full (well, in the case of the Xoom, glass-90%-full) guy. I've never had the "perfect" device for all my needs. PDA's Phones, desktops, laptops, PC's & Mac's, Windows 1.04 to 7, they've all let me down and caused times of frustration. But, through it all, I've learned to not expect perfection, and to get by with the resources available. From that perspective, the Xoom has been a pleasant surprise in just how well it has served me.

    You are, of course, quite free to deem the Xoom an absolute, start-to-finish failure. But, other than complaints about the delayed upgrade (and I assume slow updates), the only other dissatisfaction I recall that you presented with your Xoom is that it doesn't stream video as well as your phone.

    I can list a host of things my Xoom has done well for me, despite all the flaws you note. It's a shame that none of the Xoom's many functional attributes were able to meet your needs. Sounds rather like your not really the type of user who could gain much from any tablet (over other devices/solutions), even if an upgrade to fully functional, error-free ICS were to arrive on your Xoom today.
    It seems like you aren't really a person that can see things from anyone elses paradigm, except for your own. You might be better served sticking to your expectations of a device, rather than declaring what others expectations are or should be.
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    It seems like you aren't really a person that can see things from anyone elses paradigm, except for your own. You might be better served sticking to your expectations of a device, rather than declaring what others expectations are or should be.
    Your expectations not-withstanding, what I'm challenging is your assertion that the Xoom has been a complete failure.

    It's you who seem not to be able to accept the opinions of others, getting all hurt that everyone isn't rushing to agree with you that the Xoom is a useless failure.

    You join in with handful of malcontents and “entitlement princesses”( like deecoop0351 who wants his time and money back because the Xoom isn’t getting ICS first, and threatens to buy an iPad if he doesn’t get it right away) in this regard

    So, the XYBoard (half-assed) upgrade device was announced soon after the Xoom LTE upgrade. Hey, the defect-addressing Transformer Prime 700 series was announced just weeks after the the Transformer Prime hit the market. Those who bought a TP aren't going to get their connectivity issues fixed at all. They're just going to have to learn to live with shortened WiFi and Bluetooth ranges, and poor GPS reception (maybe there will be an after-market back cover replacement that a third-party will produce for them).

    Those of us who waited for the Xoom's LTE sure made out a lot better than those poor schmucks who rushed right out to pre-order the TP.

    The way the tech market is advancing, it would be damned near impossible for anyone, even those with unlimited funding, to stay at the leading edge of the curve. If having, say, not having ICS before any other tablet owners is one primary reason to consider a product like the Xoom a colossal failure, that's their choice.

    But, I'm free to provide counter-arguments and debate on a public forum such as this. Rather than just complain that I don't whole-heartedly agree with your assessments, why not proffer your arguments for open consideration by all who might be reading along?
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