- 04-01-2012, 01:13 AM #2
- 04-01-2012, 03:44 AM #3
- 04-01-2012, 03:59 AM #4Sent from my Verizon Galaxy Note 2, Verizon Galaxy S3, or N7, or MacBook Air
- 04-01-2012, 08:43 AM #5
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It was released to early but its an amazing tablet. I've had mine since launch and I love it. Its better now than it was a year ago, thanks to rooting.
Since there is such a big dev community for the xoom it gets constant support and new features. Ill say that with rooting its better than pretty much any tablet out now.
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- 04-01-2012, 12:42 PM #6
The fact that the device has to be rooted in order to get it to perform acceptably means to that it isn't that great of a device.
Outside of an Android enthusiast, the Xoom is not an appealing device to own. In my opinion, since the wifi only version of the device has been updated, once again, the problem for a lack of adequate support and updates for the device is the fault of VZW.
It is probably for that reason, none of the manufacturers outside of Apple have the clout, or influence to "encourage" timely updates to these devices. That maybe part of the reason it seems like Motorola is far more interested in cranking device after device after device, with no significant improvements.
- 04-01-2012, 01:02 PM #7
Honestly who cares? I know i have a Xoom and in my opinion its the best tablet on the market. ICS has made this a great device. I have even sold my laptop and replaced it with my Xoom. And i love that the Xoom is a GED. I love knowing i have ICS and just got 4.0.4 while Galaxy tab owners still have honeycomb.
- 04-01-2012, 01:58 PM #8
ICS has made this a great device. I have even sold my laptop and replaced it with my Xoom. And i love that the Xoom is a GED. I love knowing i have ICS and just got 4.0.4 while Galaxy tab owners still have honeycomb.
- 04-01-2012, 04:30 PM #9
I can't count the people I know in my company who own one. Many of us do. Outside of that population, I'll bump into the occasional XOOM owner, but it's not common a common occurrence.
As others have said, adoption of Android tablets has been hobbled. The blame for this is shared by many... from Google releasing Honeycomb prematurely to Motorola bungling the release of the XOOM and not communicating (ABOUT ANYTHING!!!), to NVIDIA trying to cash on on the buzz with news releases talking about quad-core devices in next generation tablets before the dual cored tablets were even on shelves!
And lets not forget the general craziness of all the Android tablet makers clamoring on about their products, most of whom wouldn't have product for months, confusing the living s--t out of consumers.
Now, with that first year behind us and ICS on our tablets, I'm hoping sanity will finally arrive to the Android tablet market. But consumers are a wary crowd. It's going to take time and experience before they believe the hype of what Android can offer them. "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."... and all that.
Speaking of sanity...
From all the belly-aching I'm reading about Motorola/Verizon not supplying ICS to the 4G XOOM on this and other threads, I assume many people on these threads have led incredibly sheltered lives.
Stop your belly aching already! It sounds like a bunch of women who can't get dates for the prom! Just deal with it. Belly aching is not going to make Motorola or Verizon release ICS to you sooner (if at all). Either succumb to the fact that ICS is many moons away or root and have ICS today. It's that friggin' simple.
The instructions are so simple. Maybe someone could re-write them in **** so people can smell their way through it too. Maybe that would help? ;-)
Whether Motorola/Verizon is "wrong" is irrelevant. What Motorola/Verizon "should have done" or "should do" is irrelevant. It is what it is people. Deal with it. Stop crying about it incessantly. Come out from behind Mommy's apron and deal with it.
If you bought a house and there was something wrong with it, you'd fix it. You wouldn't cry to every neighbor, every day of every week saying how wronged you were. You'd just man up and fix it.
Yeah. Motorola sucks. Verizon sucks. No argument from me! I own three of these things. But mine all work GREAT!!! ...because I recognized the situation and fixed the situation.
Just puh-leeze... stop the sniveling!
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- 04-01-2012, 04:54 PM #10
My Wi-Fi Xoom is not rooted and I am very happy with it. It has great build quality and with the ICS updates it really is like a new/different tablet. I expect that the Xoom will outlast all other first generation Honeycomb tablets. I will probably not upgrade to a new tablet until someone produces an Android tablet with a 1920x1200 pixel screen; hopefully larger than 10.1 inches. I now have the speaker dock and bluetooth keyboard and mouse so it is a pretty sweet system; especially with ICS.
- 04-01-2012, 05:40 PM #11
- 04-01-2012, 06:24 PM #12
Just came across this article. Apparently Google is sick of the situation too. Couple this with the recent news from NVIDIA and this gets exciting.
The Wall Street Journal is reporting that Google will revive its direct-to-consumer sales strategy it used with the Nexus One smartphone to sell tablets later this year. Google will reportedly sell the tablets through an online store, instead of going through traditional retailers.
The Wall Street Journal's sources say that the tablets won't actually be made by Google itself, but rather its partners like Samsung and ASUS will build them. They say that some of the tablets could be branded as Google's, however. The sources did not reveal when Google plans to launch the direct-to-consumer store, but they did say that the company is expected to launch Jelly Bean, the next version of its Android mobile operating system, in the middle of this year.
By all accounts, Google's previous venture into direct-to-consumer sales failed, with it shutting down online sales of the Nexus One smartphone only a few months after it started offering the device. Many point to the complexities with carriers and the high cost of an unlocked phone as the reasons for the failure of Google's retail plan with the Nexus One. Others posit that Google had trouble with technical support for the handset once it was sold to customers.
Tablets are a different beast than smartphones though, and Apple has proven time and again that customers are willing to spend upwards of $500 for a tablet device. The current Android tablets on the market have yet to really pose a challenge to Apple's dominance with the iPad, so maybe a fresh take on how Google presents them could be a good thing.Jen-Hsun Huang, Nvidia’s chief executive, recently told the New York Times that the quad-core Tegra 3 SoC incorporates enough cheap commodity components that Android tablets will cost as little as $199 by this summer -- once the cost savings take hold, that is. He said around $150 in build materials have been removed, including expensive memory.
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- 04-01-2012, 07:44 PM #13
- 04-01-2012, 08:03 PM #14
At least at this point, iPad has mastered the market. I paid less for my new iPad this year without a contract since they weren't doing contracts, than I did last year on my Xoom with a contract.
- 04-01-2012, 10:01 PM #15
The one beef you have is your XOOM lacks ICS. It's a good beef to have! ICS on the XOOM is, well, awesome.
But now you seem to be assuming anything new from Google will not at least have ICS or higher. Really? With Jelly Bean due this Summer? The fact is... starting with ICS, Android tablets have finally come of age. They are ready for the huddled masses.
If you really want to "critique", tell us what about our lives and habits an iPad services better than a XOOM. Please don't say something like "timely updates" or "it just works" or some other catch phrase that lacks any meat. Details... we're looking for details.
And BTW, Apple is no saint when it comes to updates. Ask my brother-in-law. He had Siri beta on his iPhone4. When they came out with iOS5, they took it from him and made believe it can't run on anything less than an iPhone4S.
- 04-01-2012, 10:46 PM #16
It's a shame this forum chooses not to offer the ability to ignore people.
- 04-02-2012, 12:42 AM #17
- 04-02-2012, 08:01 AM #18
first your title sucks. Second there are xooms out there. I don't go to high school or collage like you. Already enjoyed my party years. I travel a lot I see tablets once in while. Just last week saw a xoom I was like cool talked to him about. Found out he sold ipad2 for the wifi xoom. I asked why he didn't get a galaxy tab. He's response if I wanted a iPad I would have never sold mine. I'm like OK he explains hoe every thing is tied into one port and needed to buy specific cables for it. Hm OK plus he like the stock ics feel and support he gets for it with updates. So just because you don't see them there out their.doesn't mean there not. Its not the end of the world as we know it.
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- 04-02-2012, 09:15 AM #19
In other words... you have no details about why your iPad is better. You just want to complain that XOOM and Android tablets suck... and that they will never compete with iPad.
You weren't implying new Android tablets would still have a crappy OS? So... you don't like ICS either? Nothing is as good as iOS5? What the heck are you saying? Again, details are needed... not sweeping condemnations with no substance.
And BTW... I looked up the prices of of the iPad3. A 32GB 4G is going for $729, but you claimed you bought your iPad (sans contract) for less than you bought your XOOM (on contract). So the only fact you are providing seems suspect.
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- 04-02-2012, 07:03 PM #20
This is a somewhat difficult topic, as the person who wrote the root guide I'm happy people are using it to get the most of out their Xoom tablets, however I can totally understand the position of people who don't want to go through the process of rooting their tablet to get the latest software and better performance through over clocking.
It's a shame in a way, the Xoom is a very capable piece of hardware, ICS and the "unifying" Google Apps release for the ICS platform has made the Xoom that much better.
For us "early adopters", we paid a lot of cash for the Xoom experience, I paid $800, plus tax, plus my monthly VZW bill, I wouldn't trade it for a second. Thinking about that though, there are probably hundreds of people who bought the Xoom and have never been to android central or XDA, or have even heard about rooting. I kind of feel bad for those people.
ICS for the VZW Xoom can not be released soon enough, Team EOS has had a wonderfully stable build for a while now and it's great.
I understand the OP's frustration. I do have to wonder if the platform overall and it's marketing had been a little bit more successful, maybe Moto/VZW would have gotten ICS out sooner. Like always, there's carrier difficulties, OEM issues, testing, blah blah blah. It's a shame in a way, there was big gap in the market to fill for a capable 4G tablet, that gap has now been filled by more than one manufacturer and eco-system.
I still wish more developers would get behind the android tablet platform, after all, once you tap on that icon and go in to the app you're "out of" the platform and in to the app, having whatever experience you and/or the app developer wanted.
I'm not a "fan boy" in any respect these days, all platforms have unique benefits to end users. These days the Xoom is dated, however it's still a remarkably capable device, the shame is that as the days go by the Xoom is becoming more and more obsolete, it'd be real nice if VZW/Moto/Google/Canada, whoever got ICS out to the people who paid their hard earned money for the device while it's still viable.Fred
- 04-19-2012, 12:32 PM #21
- 04-24-2012, 06:14 PM #22
- 04-24-2012, 10:25 PM #23
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Along with Fred I purchased the Verizon 3g Xoom on release day and we waited and waited for our promised 4g upgrade. I have never rooted or unlocked my device so i am still on Honeycomb ( I forget which version). But that really doesn't matter to me. What matters to me is that my Xoom still performs the tasks I need it too without bogging down or crashing. Yes once in awhile my stock browser does close on me but I can deal with it.
I am still happy with my purchase, and i am in no hurry to upgrade to the next latest and greatest thing. Yes I do wish us 4g users could get stock ICS but there is not one thing I can do that will force it to get here quicker. I would not trade my Xoom for a new I pad or any other tablet out there. Is it perfect, no its not. But I am satisfied that it was worth my investment.
- 04-25-2012, 01:33 PM #24
- 04-25-2012, 02:17 PM #25
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Funny how you sing the praises of the Galaxy Nexus which is known to have issues and has to be rooted to be an acceptable device, yet you badmouth the Xoom, which doesn't need to be rooted, and is a solid device. Make up your mind, you can't have it both ways.
Last edited by LBTRS; 04-25-2012 at 02:33 PM.