1. sonicresidue's Avatar
    This is a newbie question, I know, but I was reading the "10 Android Commands You Should Know" article and it occurred to me that the program that was mentioned, which I presume to be ADB, sounds similar to the Nexus 4 Toolkit. Do these two programs do the same thing? Regarding rooting and unlocking, will either one assist in doing this, and does it matter which one you use?
    02-04-2013 09:07 PM
  2. still1's Avatar
    This is a newbie question, I know, but I was reading the "10 Android Questions You Should Know" article and it occurred to me that the program that was mentioned, which I presume to be ADB, sounds similar to the Nexus 4 Toolkit. Do these two programs do the same thing? Regarding rooting and unlocking, will either one assist in doing this, and does it matter which one you use?
    Congrats!! you are now starting to understand Android hacks/rooting etc!! Yup thats right. all those windows/mac/linux programs used for rooting/backups etc is using adb or fastboot behind the scene to accomplish it.

    if you know what you are doing you dont need those toolkits you can use fastboot/adb to do anything. I absolutely go basics with rooting and have never used toolkits
    02-04-2013 09:13 PM
  3. anon1020562's Avatar
    Congrats!! you are now starting to understand Android hacks/rooting etc!!
    Haha when I first read this I thought it was sarcastic/faux-congratulatory.
    KwietStorm likes this.
    02-04-2013 09:18 PM
  4. planoman's Avatar
    But the Wugs toolkit makes everything so easy! A One stop shop for a Nexus device!
    02-04-2013 10:18 PM
  5. Phil Nickinson's Avatar
    This is a newbie question, I know, but I was reading the "10 Android Questions You Should Know" article and it occurred to me that the program that was mentioned, which I presume to be ADB, sounds similar to the Nexus 4 Toolkit. Do these two programs do the same thing? Regarding rooting and unlocking, will either one assist in doing this, and does it matter which one you use?
    Welcome to AC!

    As still1 said, you're definitely on the right track. I'm no coding genius or anything, but I highly recommend learning those basic commands -- what they do and when to use them.

    It's like teaching a man to fish versus handing him a couple of patties from Long John Silver's, ya know?
    ChromeJob and sonicresidue like this.
    02-04-2013 10:53 PM
  6. Patrick Schroedl's Avatar
    Welcome to AC!

    As still1 said, you're definitely on the right track. I'm no coding genius or anything, but I highly recommend learning those basic commands -- what they do and when to use them.

    It's like teaching a man to fish versus handing him a couple of patties from Long John Silver's, ya know?
    Hah, best adaptation of that analogy I've seen.

    When you get down to the basics, ADB and the toolkits don't just do the same thing, they are close to being the same thing. The toolkits are a more user-friendly "shell" around the raw ADB and fastboot commands. When you use the toolkits, you're calling the ADB and fastboot commands in the manner that the toolkit developer has hard-coded into said toolkit.

    Learning at least those ten commands from the article will give you much more creative control over your phone, and open many options. As an example, I frequently use the pull and push ADB commands to backup and restore large numbers of files that I don't have synchronized to my Google account.
    sonicresidue and ConTejas like this.
    02-05-2013 02:06 AM
  7. AFM1204's Avatar
    Is this article you are talking about?
    http://m.androidcentral.com/android-...ou-should-know

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Android Central Forums
    02-05-2013 08:36 AM
  8. sonicresidue's Avatar
    Yes that's the one.

    I downloaded the zip file in the article but have been unable to find the drivers needed. However I think the N4 Toolkit has them so I may just get that as well and familiarize myself with both.


    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
    02-05-2013 11:40 AM
  9. Andrw's Avatar
    I must be doing something wrong because the push pull commands do not work for me. It would always show device not found. Anyways, my first android device, and I went straight to using fastboot commands rather than toolkits. Still lots to learn. Takes time.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Android Central Forums
    02-07-2013 02:27 PM
  10. YourMobileGuru's Avatar
    HOW TO SIDELOAD

    Command line:

    adb devices

    adb reboot recovery

    > On the device:
    >
    > hold VOL UP + Power
    > Arrow down to install via adb
    > hit power button to select

    Command Line:

    adb sideload <filename.zip>

    Reboot the phone.
    2defmouze likes this.
    02-14-2013 01:12 AM
  11. josegb2011's Avatar
    I tried doing it but every time i do the adb sideload the adb says it does not understand the sideload command..everything else works fine just that any ideas as why?
    02-14-2013 04:57 AM
  12. YourMobileGuru's Avatar
    Make sure the device serial number shows up when you type adb devices. If not reunstall the drivers. Make sure the file you are installing us in the same filder as adb abd make sure the command propmp is open in tbe samr filder I as adb.

    Also make sure usb debugging is on in developer options on the phone and the phone is in the bootloader.
    02-14-2013 09:46 AM
  13. lethalgorman's Avatar
    im new to the nexus line. Im used to Odin on the SGS2. Also trying to stay away from toolkits, but Im sooo confused with ADB and drivers and paths. Ill keep trying but damn its confusing. Any advice or links would be appreciated.
    02-22-2013 07:54 PM
  14. ChromeJob's Avatar
    I think the latest Android SDK doesn't do 'adb sideload' from the PC side. I tried it yesterday with my new N4 and it threw an error. 'adb push' and 'adb install' are the commands that work, iirc.
    02-27-2013 05:33 PM
  15. obdeuce's Avatar
    i am trying to root my nexus 4 currently and am stuck trying to create a backup. when i type "adb backup -all" im given "adb: unable to connect to backup" in response. ive browsed the forums quite a bit and none have helped or refer to my particular phone or version of android. if you can help me or link me to a solution id be extremely grateful. this is not my first attempt, me and a friend had a failed attempt some time ago that i fear is causing the problem. we were quite intoxicated at the time and have no idea what we were using, or how far we got.

    how ever i am able to use titanium backup, but i dont know if its sufficient to return my phone to its previous state once its wiped.....still prefer a solution to my adb issue but i would like to know if titanium backup would work as well. super thanks, folks
    08-13-2013 09:07 AM

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